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1Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Starter PushButton on Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:00 pm

emmanuelfiadjoe

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Where can I order online the starter PushButton for my K100RS 8V. The old one is broken.


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Model: K 100 RS 83 (0502,0503,0513)
Series: K589 (k100, RS, RT, LT)
Production Month/Year: 07/1984
Region: Europe
VIN: 0018945
    

2Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:45 pm

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I'll stick my neck out and say that you cannot buy just the button, unless you buy a new right side switchblock assembly and wiring.

Or you can buy a second hand switchblock just to get a starter button. You run the risk of not knowing how fragile the second hand button is.

Search the Forum as this has been discussed previously.

Good luck.

If you come a cross a hoard of them, tell us!



Last edited by blaKey on Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:48 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : I don't know, I was really drunk at the time!)


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K100RS 1986 RED!

Dress for the ride and the potential slide.
    

3Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:26 pm

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@emmanuelfiadjoe wrote:Where can I order online the starter PushButton for my K100RS 8V. The old one is broken.
Part number 61 31 1 459 462 (US$132.92*) will get you the right hand side combi assembly with headlight switch for K100RS. The green button and the red lever are not available separately.



*584.183 Cedi


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4Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty This is just too much on Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:43 pm

emmanuelfiadjoe

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That's about all my salary (GHC 667)  as a senior high school physics teacher. Smile
BTW, I did a little modification by passing a screw from the top of the cap into the little metal that makes contact with the leads. The pushbutton protrudes more, but it works just fine. My only concern is longevity. I hope I get a new one from an abandoned K here before the modification gives up.
Thanks all for your reply.


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Model: K 100 RS 83 (0502,0503,0513)
Series: K589 (k100, RS, RT, LT)
Production Month/Year: 07/1984
Region: Europe
VIN: 0018945
    

5Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:21 pm

Stan

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I had a similar thing happen to me about 10 years ago. A screw went in and then I covered the top of the screw with a plastic cap....or you could use the black plugger part in a syringe or needle. The bike is still in use except I have a different colour cap. In Australia certain plastics do not last long...especially the starter button.


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1983 K100 basic vin 0003960 colour red  GONE
1987 K100RT vin 0094685 colour, orange peel, sorry, pearl..GONE
F800R black
    

6Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:59 pm

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Mine in OZ karked it soon after purchase. I glued it back together with 3M weatherstrip cement until the entire assembly died a death a few years later. Necessity is and always will be the mother of invention.


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1977 R75/7-R100 grey, '87 K100RS red, '93 K11-K12 aka 'Big Block' black, '96 K1100RS black, '98 K1200RS red, '09 K1300GT red, & 2013 R1200RT-Polizia black & white.

    

7Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:29 pm

Holister

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I think the major concern is that water can get into the switch block and cause other problems.
I stuck a plunger rubber from a 5ml syringe over mine. Been there for nearly a year now no probs.


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1989 K100RT     VIN No.  0097367 (naked)  
1996 K1100RS   VIN No.  0451808
  Starter PushButton Austra12    Fuel:  95 Octane
Engine Oil: Nulon Full Synthetic 15W50
Gear Box Oil:  Nulon Synthetic 75W90
    

8Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:12 am

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There is a member in Spain who used a 3D printer to make some but I haven't seen him around for ages. If I could remember his name I would PM him.


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"Man sacrifices his health in order to make money.
Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health.
And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived."   Dalai Lama


Bikes 1993 K1100 LT, 1998 K1100 LT, 1993 K75 RT, 1996 K75RT, 1986 K75 GS, 1979 Z1300 Kawasaki X 2 for now
    

9Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:21 am

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Makes all us ol' Luddites long for the return of proper kick start levers.  Razz

    

10Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Thu Jun 18, 2015 2:51 am

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@brickrider wrote:Makes all us ol' Luddites long for the return of proper kick start levers.  Razz
It makes it a simple process but unfortunately some of the big twins and singles had a habit of launching you over the handlebars. Laughing


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"Man sacrifices his health in order to make money.
Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health.
And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived."   Dalai Lama


Bikes 1993 K1100 LT, 1998 K1100 LT, 1993 K75 RT, 1996 K75RT, 1986 K75 GS, 1979 Z1300 Kawasaki X 2 for now
    

11Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Thu Jun 18, 2015 3:09 am

BadjerJim

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Had the same problem, and was lucky enough to find a guy parting-out a bike, and sold me the right-hand switches for $20.  And yeah, the only part that I used was that little green button.  Of course now I have an extra red kill switch lever, and some wiring that I'll keep but never use.

The green starter button would be an ideal candidate for 3D Printing.  Now that I think of it, it would be great to set up an archive area of this forum for 3D Printing files... for this and other small plastic parts.

    

12Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Thu Jun 18, 2015 3:59 am

emmanuelfiadjoe

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Then I'll get some rubber to cover mine.
Thank you all


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Model: K 100 RS 83 (0502,0503,0513)
Series: K589 (k100, RS, RT, LT)
Production Month/Year: 07/1984
Region: Europe
VIN: 0018945
    

13Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:23 am

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@BadjerJim wrote:Had the same problem, and was lucky enough to find a guy parting-out a bike, and sold me the right-hand switches for $20.  And yeah, the only part that I used was that little green button.  Of course now I have an extra red kill switch lever, and some wiring that I'll keep but never use.

The green starter button would be an ideal candidate for 3D Printing.  Now that I think of it, it would be great to set up an archive area of this forum for 3D Printing files... for this and other small plastic parts.

our workplace has one of those new printers ...might be a good idea to take a scan of one before it breaks

hmmm

good idea jim ...thanks for the reminder


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%OStarter PushButton Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

14Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Fri Jun 19, 2015 12:08 am

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Work also has a new printer.
They want to test their modelling and printing skills.
I was told to bring in a button and the speedo gears for modelling and manufacture.
Will keep you posted.


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1986 K100RT VIN 0093801K100RT with summer fairing for a northern visitor

Basic/2 6308802K100CJ  05/1988

K1100RS 0194321
    

15Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Fri Jun 19, 2015 12:23 am

RicK G

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That could make you a very popular person.


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"Man sacrifices his health in order to make money.
Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health.
And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived."   Dalai Lama


Bikes 1993 K1100 LT, 1998 K1100 LT, 1993 K75 RT, 1996 K75RT, 1986 K75 GS, 1979 Z1300 Kawasaki X 2 for now
    

16Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Fri Jun 19, 2015 12:49 am

rawdonball

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The '85 K100RS I purchased 12 months back had a nice IP65 rated push button switch assembly installed in the bore normally used for mounting the rear view mirror on naked and K75C models. Easy job to reroute the wires, switch is not inaccessible and water proof as all hell.


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17Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:23 am

RicK G

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I had that in place of an indicator switch on the K100 for a few years.


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"Man sacrifices his health in order to make money.
Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health.
And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived."   Dalai Lama


Bikes 1993 K1100 LT, 1998 K1100 LT, 1993 K75 RT, 1996 K75RT, 1986 K75 GS, 1979 Z1300 Kawasaki X 2 for now
    

18Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:32 am

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crikey if you can get the scan / cad  file rossko (3d modelling )  save as ?.stl 

we should be able to convert it anyhow to our standard at least

ill give it a go up here on ours as well

good onya


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%OStarter PushButton Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

19Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Sat Jun 20, 2015 5:07 am

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I will post pictures later, but had to do some major butchery on my starter switch to get the green button out without damaging it any more.

Might have to get one of them made also.


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1986 K100RT VIN 0093801K100RT with summer fairing for a northern visitor

Basic/2 6308802K100CJ  05/1988

K1100RS 0194321
    

20Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:31 am

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With the remnants of the green button so difficult to get out without further damage, how will the new button be installed? This could be a problem Shocked


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1989 K100RT     VIN No.  0097367 (naked)  
1996 K1100RS   VIN No.  0451808
  Starter PushButton Austra12    Fuel:  95 Octane
Engine Oil: Nulon Full Synthetic 15W50
Gear Box Oil:  Nulon Synthetic 75W90
    

21Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Sat Jun 20, 2015 10:07 pm

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looks like the brass section of the contact at the inards side is glued - heated into place ...possibly on a pike into the green button

the emergency cutoff button and green button are easily removed as an assembly but hard to separate up the core of the cutoff switch inards

maybe a cutoff wheel on a dremel could cut the outer part in half to expose the push button

ill give It ago later, if there is interest


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%OStarter PushButton Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

22Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Sat Jun 20, 2015 11:01 pm

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Don't destroy yours Charlie. Already done it to miine.

Pics will follow when I can get a camera to focus close enough to see what is going on


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1986 K100RT VIN 0093801K100RT with summer fairing for a northern visitor

Basic/2 6308802K100CJ  05/1988

K1100RS 0194321
    

23Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:52 pm

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I had a look at an assembly today, and I'd like to know how the contact is secured into the green button. Moulded, glued or something else?

Got any pics yet rosskko?

I'm thinking it may be possible to put a thread in the button and make the contact with a brass round head screw??

(It would be nice to have a blue button on the blue bike.)


Paul.


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'84 K100RS (0014643) (owned since '85), 86 K100RS (0018891) with Martello sidecar (built as an outfit in '88),
'51 Vincent (since '67),'72 Montesa Cota (from new), '87 Honda RS125R NF4 (bought 2015) 
....No CARS never ever!
    

24Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:08 pm

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Paul, the peg is held in by friction.
It has a little knurled section on the end.
Impossible to get out unless you destroy the red switch.

I was thinking the same thing with the screw. Only thing is, if you ever have to replace the button, you probably won't have to pull it out again for another twenty years.

I have the button and switch with a design guy at work to make a model, he is talking about making a mould to make them out of more durable plastic.
Will probably do both to make a new set.
I suppose the button post could be removed by drilling it out to weaken the hold on the metal pin.

The other thing I was thinking is the spring could be cut down by 1/3. It is very strong for its role and probably has a hand in popping the top off the button
Will keep you posted


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1986 K100RT VIN 0093801K100RT with summer fairing for a northern visitor

Basic/2 6308802K100CJ  05/1988

K1100RS 0194321
    

25Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:24 pm

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Thanks, rosskko.   Starter PushButton 112350

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'84 K100RS (0014643) (owned since '85), 86 K100RS (0018891) with Martello sidecar (built as an outfit in '88),
'51 Vincent (since '67),'72 Montesa Cota (from new), '87 Honda RS125R NF4 (bought 2015) 
....No CARS never ever!
    

26Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:38 pm

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We all wish you luck in this little adventure!


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K100RS 1986 RED!

Dress for the ride and the potential slide.
    

27Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:48 pm

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good work rossko
yes your right Paul a 2mm bolt should work just fine   and may have the same head contact interference to the switch ?

cheers


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%OStarter PushButton Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

28Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Tue Jul 07, 2015 7:11 pm

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Well, I couldn't resist it, using rosskko's info, I decided to drill out the contact pin on a spare switch block. As the shaft is 2.5 mm diameter it was easy enough and the red lever stayed intact.  cheers  
Starter PushButton Sam_1211


I then turned a replacement push button in brass with a 6BA thread to use a cheese head screw with it's head turned to 3.5 mm as the contact.
Etch primed and painted blue, now there's no green bits on my blue bike.  Starter PushButton 723598Starter PushButton Sam_1212  

Charlie, do you think this colour matching is getting out of hand???

Paul.


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'84 K100RS (0014643) (owned since '85), 86 K100RS (0018891) with Martello sidecar (built as an outfit in '88),
'51 Vincent (since '67),'72 Montesa Cota (from new), '87 Honda RS125R NF4 (bought 2015) 
....No CARS never ever!
    

29Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:55 pm

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Good work SCP.
Wish I had know how they went together before destroying mine.
Still waiting on the techie to model the button.
Despite their initial excitement they are a bit slow.


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1986 K100RT VIN 0093801K100RT with summer fairing for a northern visitor

Basic/2 6308802K100CJ  05/1988

K1100RS 0194321
    

30Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:09 pm

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Love it Paul, absolutely love it!

Taking the concept of a unique bike to a whole new level.

Cheers


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31Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:35 pm

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pretty good result paul

yes I think your right ...some of us have gone over the edge with the colour matching ...perhaps ...but I understand the need mate .


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%OStarter PushButton Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

32Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:11 pm

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Excellent work there Paul.

Do you take orders? No...seriously, do you? A nice little bunsen burner for you there!

I get excited if I don't cross thread the valve cap when checking the air in my tyres, so there's no way in the world that I'll ever be able to do what you did.


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K100RS 1986 RED!

Dress for the ride and the potential slide.
    

33Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:29 am

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Starter PushButton 44271

good one blakey ..

and he with 3 of the things ....

I must get up there again soon


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%OStarter PushButton Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

34Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Sun Jul 12, 2015 5:39 pm

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@emmanuelfiadjoe wrote:That's about all my salary (GHC 667) as a senior high school physics teacher. Smile
Thanks all for your replies.
I suppose those of us in 'the West' need a dose of reality once in a while as to how lucky we really are, in relative terms, with options and access to parts merely a phone call or quick Google search away, and often as cheap as chips.


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1977 R75/7-R100 grey, '87 K100RS red, '93 K11-K12 aka 'Big Block' black, '96 K1100RS black, '98 K1200RS red, '09 K1300GT red, & 2013 R1200RT-Polizia black & white.

    

35Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:44 pm

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Sage words, TWB, in countries with a proliferation of K's we're spoilt by having an easy supply of new and used spares.  roundel

I wonder how many new K's were delivered to Ghana?

Anyway, emmanualfiadjoe, if you PM me your address I'll send you a replacement starter button.

Paul.


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'84 K100RS (0014643) (owned since '85), 86 K100RS (0018891) with Martello sidecar (built as an outfit in '88),
'51 Vincent (since '67),'72 Montesa Cota (from new), '87 Honda RS125R NF4 (bought 2015) 
....No CARS never ever!
    

36Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:08 am

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@sidecar paul wrote:
Anyway, emmanualfiadjoe, if you PM me your address I'll send you a replacement starter button.

Paul.
Nice work SCP. Make sure to get the colour correct.


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1986 K100RT VIN 0093801K100RT with summer fairing for a northern visitor

Basic/2 6308802K100CJ  05/1988

K1100RS 0194321
    

37Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:10 am

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wow  ...amazing paul

good on you !!


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%OStarter PushButton Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

38Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:30 pm

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Good work Paul.


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K100RS 1986 RED!

Dress for the ride and the potential slide.
    

39Back to top Go down   Starter PushButton Empty Re: Starter PushButton on Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:49 am

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Great to see so many contributing and helping fellow Knuts.


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1987 K100RT vin 0094685 colour, orange peel, sorry, pearl..GONE
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