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1Back to top Go down    Leakage!!! on Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:45 am

emmanuelfiadjoe

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There is oil leakage from the final drive, around the part where the rear wheel fits in.
I have taken the wheel, the break disc, the break caliper, and the cover there off. Don't really know what to do next.
Please assist me

I just consulted the manual and realized hopelessly that the tools required to change the oil seal on the final drive are not available hear in my country.
I think my riding days on this K are either very short or over.


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Model: K 100 RS 83 (0502,0503,0513)
Series: K589 (k100, RS, RT, LT)
Production Month/Year: 07/1984
Region: Europe
VIN: 0018945
    

2Back to top Go down    Re: Leakage!!! on Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:41 am

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Check the surface where the seal runs on the centre boss and make sure that it is smooth and undamaged, run your fingernail across the surface and if you can feel any groove then it needs replacing or repair. A good engineering shop will advise you on repair. If it is OK then put a new seal into the case and a new O-ring and replace the cover.
While the crown wheel is out check both bearings for wear and replace them if necessary. the large bearing will cause the seal to leak if it is worn badly. If the small roller bearing needs replacing you would be well advised to check the gear meshing, if you cant do that then any competent mechanic would be able to help.

PS that would be refering to the seal on the front shaft not the seal where the wheel bolts on

You could also try this auto trans treatment it will make the seals soft again. http://www.ramy4x4.com/product.php?id_product=555


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3Back to top Go down    Re: Leakage!!! on Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:05 pm

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I've just replaced 2 leaky final drive seals and it's very easy.
Put the new seal in the fridge to cool for a good few hours,this will shrink it slightly. Remove the old seal and clean all adjoining faces. I used Scotch Bright to clean the housing and shaft.lightly grease the clean surfaces,then press the cooled seal in with your fingers. Be careful not to push it in too far.

Good luck.

    

4Back to top Go down    Re: Leakage!!! on Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:59 pm

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really, so I shouldn't have removed the final drive cover?
If so, why does the Clymer's make it very complex, listing a whole lot of equipments and procedures required before one can remove the seal?


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Model: K 100 RS 83 (0502,0503,0513)
Series: K589 (k100, RS, RT, LT)
Production Month/Year: 07/1984
Region: Europe
VIN: 0018945
    

5Back to top Go down    Re: Leakage!!! on Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:16 am

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I've no idea why it's got to be complicated.
Dig out the old seal,fit a new one. The method obviously works because I've thrashed my K around Spa and several track days since without any problems.

    

6Back to top Go down    Re: Leakage!!! on Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:53 am

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Thanks Mike, I'm gonna dig out mine too, and look for a new one to buy. I hope I get a new seal to buy here.


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Model: K 100 RS 83 (0502,0503,0513)
Series: K589 (k100, RS, RT, LT)
Production Month/Year: 07/1984
Region: Europe
VIN: 0018945
    

7Back to top Go down    Re: Leakage!!! on Fri Aug 21, 2015 1:00 am

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Remember to take your time & be careful.
I'd never changed a seal before and I did 2 at once!!

    

8Back to top Go down    Re: Leakage!!! on Fri Aug 21, 2015 1:29 am

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I will. I only hope I get those seals to buy


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Model: K 100 RS 83 (0502,0503,0513)
Series: K589 (k100, RS, RT, LT)
Production Month/Year: 07/1984
Region: Europe
VIN: 0018945
    

9Back to top Go down    Re: Leakage!!! on Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:21 am

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So far I haven't been able to get the seal off. How did you do it Mike?
I tried with a flat screw driver, and then a knife, but I couldn't get the seals off.


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Model: K 100 RS 83 (0502,0503,0513)
Series: K589 (k100, RS, RT, LT)
Production Month/Year: 07/1984
Region: Europe
VIN: 0018945
    

10Back to top Go down    Re: Leakage!!! on Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:58 am

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I think I just used a fairly large flat blade screw driver and prised around the seal bit by bit.Ease the driver under the seal lip but be careful of the shaft. Once the seals grip is broken it will come out fairly easy.

Trust yourself!! Very Happy

    

11Back to top Go down    Re: Leakage!!! on Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:03 am

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Did you prise the inner or outer diameter of the seal?


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Model: K 100 RS 83 (0502,0503,0513)
Series: K589 (k100, RS, RT, LT)
Production Month/Year: 07/1984
Region: Europe
VIN: 0018945
    

12Back to top Go down    Re: Leakage!!! on Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:07 am

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Inner-between the seal lip and the shaft.

    

13Back to top Go down    Re: Leakage!!! on Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:32 am

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Shaft?


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Model: K 100 RS 83 (0502,0503,0513)
Series: K589 (k100, RS, RT, LT)
Production Month/Year: 07/1984
Region: Europe
VIN: 0018945
    

14Back to top Go down    Re: Leakage!!! on Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:44 am

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The bevel output shaft or hub that the wheel bolts onto.

    

15Back to top Go down    Impoetant!!! on Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:58 am

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If I take out the seals and don't get any on the market ( very likely in this part of the world, no bmw dealer shops), will the old one be in a state I can reuse together with a stop leak treatment? that is if even I'll get a stop leak treatment to buy here.


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Model: K 100 RS 83 (0502,0503,0513)
Series: K589 (k100, RS, RT, LT)
Production Month/Year: 07/1984
Region: Europe
VIN: 0018945
    

16Back to top Go down    Re: Leakage!!! on Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:01 am

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Getting the seal out WILL destroy it.
Try MotoBins or Motorworks in the UK,they will ship to you.

    

17Back to top Go down    Re: Leakage!!! on Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:27 am

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Thanks Mike


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Model: K 100 RS 83 (0502,0503,0513)
Series: K589 (k100, RS, RT, LT)
Production Month/Year: 07/1984
Region: Europe
VIN: 0018945
    

18Back to top Go down    Re: Leakage!!! on Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:51 am

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Given that the following WILL destroy the seal:

Drill a couple of pilot holes on opposite sides of the metal part of the seal, making sure it only penetrates the seal and does not contact the bearing.

Use a couple of self tapping screw, and screw them into the holes.

Grip the screws with mole grips or pliers, and pull the seal out.

Mike

    

19Back to top Go down    No rotation on Wed Aug 26, 2015 11:34 pm

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I got a new seal, after installing the seal and putting the final drive cover on, the wheel hub does not rotate even though the engine is in neutral. when I loosen the bolts on the cover, it rotates, but when I tighten the bolts again, there is no free movevment


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Model: K 100 RS 83 (0502,0503,0513)
Series: K589 (k100, RS, RT, LT)
Production Month/Year: 07/1984
Region: Europe
VIN: 0018945
    

20Back to top Go down    Re: Leakage!!! on Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:21 am

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Did you put the shims back where they were, if they are not there and in the correct thickness the gears will bind so tight so as not to turn.


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Bikes 1986 K100RT, 1993 K1100 LT, 1994 K1100 LT, 1993 K75 RT, 1996 K75RT, 1986 K75 GS, 1979 Z1300 Kawasaki X 2 & 1976 SR 500 Yamaha for now
    

21Back to top Go down    Re: Leakage!!! on Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:02 am

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Thank you. But I've already rectified the problem. I had taken out the ring gear before removing the seal, upon installation, I hadn't pushed it out suficiently and so when I tightened the bolts it stack to the inside, not allowing rotation. I took it to a machine shop and had it pushed out with a press mechanism and that solved it.

Thanks again for your readiness to help.


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Model: K 100 RS 83 (0502,0503,0513)
Series: K589 (k100, RS, RT, LT)
Production Month/Year: 07/1984
Region: Europe
VIN: 0018945
    

22Back to top Go down    Re: Leakage!!! on Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:22 am

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good to have it sorted now to ride


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Bikes 1986 K100RT, 1993 K1100 LT, 1994 K1100 LT, 1993 K75 RT, 1996 K75RT, 1986 K75 GS, 1979 Z1300 Kawasaki X 2 & 1976 SR 500 Yamaha for now
    

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