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1Back to top Go down   Automatic cancel Empty Automatic cancel on Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:47 pm

Rockman

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My blinkers appear to cancel automatically when I change from 1st to 2nd (I think). I find this a nuisance as I'm not sure if they were working or not because I'm too busy looking at the traffic, road etc to notice so I'd like to disconnect this "handy" feature and go back to cancelling them myself.  Anybody know how to do this?  88 RT if that matters.

And a second (non electrical) question - my rear brake master cylinder is showing signs that it might want to leak. The OEM kits are expensive. Are there any alternatives?



Last edited by Rockman on Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:50 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : added 2nd Q)

    

2Back to top Go down   Automatic cancel Empty Re: Automatic cancel on Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:46 am

WoodyAUK75

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Mine cancel after about twenty seconds. Is that the sort of times yours last? Maybe it's not the gear change, just how long before you move.

    

3Back to top Go down   Automatic cancel Empty Re: Automatic cancel on Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:27 am

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Hi Phil, here is a scan from the Riders Handbook of my K1100LT which gives the cancel specs for the blinkers. The Riders Handbook for my K75 gives exactly the same info, word for word, so it's a fair bet that the K100 is the same.
Automatic cancel Indica10
Hope that helps.
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4Back to top Go down   Automatic cancel Empty Re: Automatic cancel on Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:01 pm

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So there is no way to bypass this "handy" feature??

I dont remember it on other K's Ive had.

    

5Back to top Go down   Automatic cancel Empty Re: Automatic cancel on Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:23 pm

charlie99

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hi phil there is a lead from the instruments to the blinker control unit ...I wonder if this wire was cut - disabled that might do the job ?

haven't looked at the circuits yet to see the colour of the wire but one of the last few at the speedo input area


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'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%OAutomatic cancel Au-log10

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6Back to top Go down   Automatic cancel Empty Re: Automatic cancel on Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:51 pm

robmack

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You're right Charlie. Disconnect Pin 21 (Blue/Green) from the instrument cluster plug and the auto-cancel function is disabled.


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7Back to top Go down   Automatic cancel Empty Re: Automatic cancel on Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:50 pm

Rockman

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@robmack wrote:You're right Charlie.  Disconnect Pin 21 (Blue/Green) from the instrument cluster plug and the auto-cancel function is disabled.
So how are the pins numbered, just so I know I have the right one?

    

8Back to top Go down   Automatic cancel Empty Re: Automatic cancel on Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:58 pm

robmack

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Numbering as seen from the back of the cluster:

Automatic cancel Instrument%20cluster%20plug

... or look for the only Blue/Green wire in the bunch.


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9Back to top Go down   Automatic cancel Empty Re: Automatic cancel on Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:00 pm

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Thanks for that. I'll fix it this weekend 'snip'..

    

10Back to top Go down   Automatic cancel Empty Re: Automatic cancel on Wed Sep 02, 2015 4:12 am

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thanks rob ....good onya

knew there was a chance at a solve ...just not close to the hands on, look see, at the moment

good luck phil


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%OAutomatic cancel Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

11Back to top Go down   Automatic cancel Empty Re: Automatic cancel on Wed Sep 02, 2015 4:26 am

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You might be able to access that wire more easily at the flasher unit
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12Back to top Go down   Automatic cancel Empty Re: Automatic cancel on Wed Sep 02, 2015 4:56 am

charlie99

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indeed it would not be wise to cut into the loom to the instruments ,,,just find an end ...as captain suggests ....and put a tag on the cut off end  to what it does ...and where it comes from ....I believe in leaving a small section of the cut off cable attached to the end device ... so cut about 1/2 inch away from the relay unit ????


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%OAutomatic cancel Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

13Back to top Go down   Automatic cancel Empty Re: Automatic cancel on Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:01 am

Dai

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Also, rather handily, the pin numbers are molded into the back of the instrument housing.


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14Back to top Go down   Automatic cancel Empty Re: Automatic cancel on Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:28 am

robmack

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He could also just pull the socket from the connector shroud rather than snip the wire. That becomes reversible and can be brought back to stock. KH's idea also works.


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