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1Back to top Go down   blinkers Empty blinkers Sun Sep 13, 2015 10:18 pm

Ken52

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still waiting for rear brake pads, in the mean time when I hit the left blinker it kicks on thr right blinker too. now the right blinker doesn't do that Idea why. thanks.. Rolling Eyes

    

2Back to top Go down   blinkers Empty Re: blinkers Sun Sep 13, 2015 11:04 pm

Rick G

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Check fuse #7 it may be blown or Open so check it with a meter, don't rely on a visual for those blade type fuses.
Then again you may need to replace the blinker fluid http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=22 Laughing


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3Back to top Go down   blinkers Empty Re: blinkers Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:19 am

kioolt

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I don't believe there's any benefit to synthetic blinker fluid over dino blinker fluid.  I'll stick with dino blinker fluid.


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1991 K100LT 128,700 miles
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Total 422,400 BMW miles

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4Back to top Go down   blinkers Empty Re: blinkers Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:20 am

Point-Seven-five

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I'm thinking your blinking blinker relay is on the blink.


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1988 K100RS SE "Special Ed"
1994 K75S "Cheetos"
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5Back to top Go down   blinkers Empty Re: blinkers Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:34 am

Rick G

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One other thing that I have seen cause blinker problems is bad brushes in the starter. Yes I know that sounds crazy but the earth for the load shedding relay goes through the starter and a bad earth there will cause the blinkers to play up.


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"Man sacrifices his health in order to make money.
Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health.
And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived."   Dalai Lama


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6Back to top Go down   blinkers Empty Re: blinkers Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:20 am

Holister

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I have a hyper flash on the r/h side... been making me go epileptic the last few weeks. Bulbs and wiring test ok. I swapped out with another unit and new blinker fluid. Problem persists so I'll take a look at the starter brushes. Thanks Rick.


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1996 K1100RS   VIN  0451808
 blinkers Austra12    Fuel:  95 Octane
Engine Oil: Nulon Full Synthetic 15W50
Gear Box Oil:  Nulon Synthetic 75W90
    

7Back to top Go down   blinkers Empty Re: blinkers Mon Sep 14, 2015 5:57 am

K75cster

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Nige if its hyper flashing perhaps you also have some H/R in one of your connectors and the bulb relay is not seeing all the wattage it requires to blink slower. You might need thicker fluid mate, have you tried 5 weight? Twisted Evil


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8Back to top Go down   blinkers Empty Re: blinkers Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:50 am

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Someone, somewhere in the world is sitting at their computer wondering about this blinker fluid we're going on about...

Great isn't it!

10W is good. Suits the warmer climates.


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9Back to top Go down   blinkers Empty Re: blinkers Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:38 am

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Bike shops and Auto parts stores must love us Laughing

The inventors name was Henry Hokes I believe, assists the smooth transition of electrical smoke from one end to the other of an electrical circuit, aint that right?


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10Back to top Go down   blinkers Empty Re: blinkers Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:14 am

Holister

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It all comes down to the co-efficient of dynamic viscosity of the blinker fluid you're using. Its easy to calculate the required viscosity by dividing the dynamic viscosity by the current draw for each bulb, multiplied by the inverse square of the flash rate....  blinkers 8157


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1989 K100RT     VIN  0097367 (naked)  
1996 K1100RS   VIN  0451808
 blinkers Austra12    Fuel:  95 Octane
Engine Oil: Nulon Full Synthetic 15W50
Gear Box Oil:  Nulon Synthetic 75W90
    

11Back to top Go down   blinkers Empty Re: blinkers Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:45 am

K75cster

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I've read that, reminded me of the wet bulb temperature readings. The coefficient of friction increases with the flash rate and the temperature differential improves with the wattage used.
Bloody good stuff that blinker fluid.


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12Back to top Go down   blinkers Empty Re: blinkers Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:13 pm

k-rider

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RicK G wrote:Check fuse #7 it may be blown or Open so check it with a meter, don't rely on a visual for those blade type fuses.
Then again you may need to replace the blinker fluid http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=22 Laughing

regarding the blinker fluid, i cant seem to find a tutorial in the HOW TO section, for example , how much is needed , and where do i put it , anyone bounce

k-rider


13Back to top Go down   blinkers Empty Re: blinkers Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:41 pm

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K75cster wrote:Nige if its hyper flashing perhaps you also have some H/R in one of your connectors and the bulb relay is not seeing all the wattage it requires to blink slower. You might need thicker fluid mate, have you tried 5 weight? Twisted Evil

I am really confused. blinkers 8157
Does the 'W' refer to the weight or the wattage?
And how does that relate to volts? And temperature?


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14Back to top Go down   blinkers Empty Re: blinkers Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:40 pm

K75cster

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Your not alone Rossco, Watt Weight is also a denialist's statement. Very Happy But as the Kaptain states above, its all to do with fluid dynamics, Electron flow can be hindered by old flasher units amounst other things like unlubricated wiring and dry connectors, as you know these units are sealed units and don't usually need any maintenance, (hence K Bike not tutorial) But you know how BMW shed mechanics must find a way to improve everything, Sealed Shockies for example being rebuilt etc. I think we could buy flash lube once from Morleys?. So Blinker Fluid has become available in different Watt weights to the average shedder who wants his Watts to flow better or more fluidly. Tis good stuff. All blinker parts are sealed from the factory, but that wont stop us busying ourselves with things like this.


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The Clever are adept at extricating themselves from situations that the wise would have avoided from the outset - QUOTE from david Hillel in Out of the Earth.
    

15Back to top Go down   blinkers Empty Re: blinkers Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:43 pm

Rick G

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Oh No what did I start Poor Ken will think he has got the real funny farm instead of the K forum Laughing


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"Man sacrifices his health in order to make money.
Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health.
And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived."   Dalai Lama


Bikes 1999 K1100 LT with a Big Block 1200
    

16Back to top Go down   blinkers Empty Re: blinkers Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:44 pm

GTJos

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RicK G wrote:Oh No what did I start Poor Ken will think he has got the real funny farm instead of the K forum Laughing
Rolling Eyes Hmmmm... Is there a difference then ?! cheers


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17Back to top Go down   blinkers Empty Re: blinkers Tue Sep 15, 2015 6:25 pm

K75cster

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I hope Ken has found a solution to that blinker issue, Its gone very quiet.


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18Back to top Go down   blinkers Empty blinkers Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:05 pm

Ken52

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Ken52 wrote:still waiting for rear brake pads, in the mean time when I hit the left blinker it kicks on the right blinker too. now the right blinker doesn't do that Idea why. thanks.. Rolling Eyes
still having the issue with the blinkers ,left side switch turns into flasher. after system is warm could it be low brake pad warning, unable to check recently. fingers are too stiff. but got the brake pads from Amazon witch was good.  take care fellows.

    

19Back to top Go down   blinkers Empty Re: blinkers Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:00 pm

Rick G

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There is no sensor for low brake pads so it certainly wont be that.
The blinker unit has 2 wires that supply 12 volts and when one isn't working then that is the type of problems that present themselves. I haven't got all my circuits with me but the interactive circuit via the portal page will give you that info. Also check the earth points under the tank on the left side of the top tube and the gearbox above the coils for corrosion and dirt to ensure good connections.  Bad earths can play havoc with any electrical system.


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"Man sacrifices his health in order to make money.
Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health.
And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived."   Dalai Lama


Bikes 1999 K1100 LT with a Big Block 1200
    

20Back to top Go down   blinkers Empty Re: blinkers Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:23 am

AL-58

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k-rider wrote:
RicK G wrote:Check fuse #7 it may be blown or Open so check it with a meter, don't rely on a visual for those blade type fuses.
Then again you may need to replace the blinker fluid http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=22 Laughing

regarding the blinker fluid, i cant seem to find a tutorial in the HOW TO section, for example , how much is needed , and where do i put it , anyone bounce

k-rider
This brand is highly recommended:
blinkers Flashlube


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21Back to top Go down   blinkers Empty blinkers Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:58 pm

Ken52

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blinker still turning to flasher of left side,but found the problem with the brake warning light. got that fixed. Very Happy

    

22Back to top Go down   blinkers Empty blinker fluid Tue Sep 29, 2015 11:28 pm

Ken52

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RicK G wrote:Oh No what did I start Poor Ken will think he has got the real funny farm instead of the K forum Laughing
must be similar to DEF fluid witch I sell at work, maybe..

    

23Back to top Go down   blinkers Empty trying to restore this old bike Tue Sep 29, 2015 11:32 pm

Ken52

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Ken52 wrote:still waiting for rear brake pads, in the mean time when I hit the left blinker it kicks on thr right blinker too. now the right blinker doesn't do that Idea why. thanks.. Rolling Eyes
Found out it has new brake pads,had to readjust all the brake cable linkages.

Working on all associated issues, never owned a BMW before. Will take apart switches next day off, getting into winter now, colder and wetter. you fellows take care.. Smile Surprised-o:

    

24Back to top Go down   blinkers Empty blinkers Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:24 am

Ken52

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RicK G wrote:There is no sensor for low brake pads so it certainly wont be that.
The blinker unit has 2 wires that supply 12 volts and when one isn't working then that is the type of problems that present themselves. I haven't got all my circuits with me but the interactive circuit via the portal page will give you that info. Also check the earth points under the tank on the left side of the top tube and the gearbox above the coils for corrosion and dirt to ensure good connections.  Bad earths can play havoc with any electrical system.
it seems to be the ground ,wiggle the wire and they will work somewhat. thankyou. blinkers 212902

    

25Back to top Go down   blinkers Empty Re: blinkers Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:34 am

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Ken52 wrote: Will take apart switches next day off, getting into winter now:

Put them in a plastic bag and unscrew them in there. Especially with cold winter fingers.
Lot of bits that want their freedom in those switches and 30 years of confinement only makes them hungrier for the darkest corner of your garage floor.
And look at the 'how to's' on the forum. Lots of good info and photos.

Welcome. Don't think I have said that yet.

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