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201Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:02 pm

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last bit before valve lapping ….and waiting for parts to be ordered

thought to clean up at least some of the sand casting marks in the combustion chamber ...by no means perfect but far less pointy bits of aluminium to gather carbon and pre ignite




    

202Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:33 pm

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valves lapped
just to find the valve spring compressor and fit the parts back together

the valve stems seals are still holding the valves in place , so I guess they might last a bit longer ?


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203Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:29 pm

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Charlie I have a valve spring compressor that goes on over the spring and them you screw it down. It is meant to be used with an air fitting that screws into the spark plug hole. Air is supposed to hold the valve up while you screw the compressor down. I also have and older one if I can find it similar to the one in the picture.  I am in the process of sorting and rearranging my garage so I do know where it isn't. Let me know and I can bring them to the Lowood swap meet.
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204Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:46 pm

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thanks martin
its here , just in a box to drag out later ...


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205Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:16 pm

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Charlie I misread your post I thought you needed one.
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206Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:51 am

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finished this bit for now  ...till I pull the camshafts out of the old motor
hate valve retainer collets , and old shakey hands


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207Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:23 am

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thought to start on the wiring loom
some interesting challenges ahead I guess

as you would expect from something near ancient ...giggles …
the loom itself looks ok , some insulation wrapping needing attention




some interesting mods



and some typical corrosion points needing attention









lets see what develops


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208Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:28 am

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A man of your tallents will have that behaving its self in no time


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209Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:47 am

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ill give the deoxit a day or so to work

then cleaners and deoxit again


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210Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:25 pm

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With so many little dremel knockoffs on the market. A trip to Bunnings or a reject shop can yield plenty of little match stick sizes grinders. I know they are meant for the replica dremels but a lot of the little carbide impregnated bits would be just useful between thumb and forefinger to clean up some of those little sockets joints.


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211Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Fri Jul 20, 2018 4:14 am

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good idea keith

I have a few various pc board  drills here also  which will help with the small internal type fitting sockets

after a couple of days ..the deoxit has worked quite well  so far



a clean up with flux remover and electronic cleaning solvent  and toothbrush or similar may restore - clean the surface without using some abrasive materials

followed by the deoxit when mating up , later on in the build


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212Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:41 pm

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Charlie - you're gunna hate me for this - junk it and build a new one. The PVC sheathing in that loom is, by now, looking for somewhere really inconvenient to split on you.


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213Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:12 pm

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oh ?
it gets better Dai

check this out

some time in its past it has suffered a headlight short condition



and to the left side switch block




and of course to the right hand side



I do have another loom here ...but from a earlier vintage , with the tank connector down the front …

will see what can be done


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214Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:32 pm

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bit of a clean up on a modified exhaust , care of Al Pennykid

its been a bit bumped about this one , with years of crud bonded to the underside and hard to get at exposed areas

before





during



and near the end






still some deep scars of corroded stainless exist ...but cutting them back is hard work indeed … may get inspired to dig deeper yet … but don't want to go any thinner on the metal just in this spot , just under and behind the foot peg plate , fortunately the 84 footpeg plate doesn't have the additional guard section just there


may even cut the last two silencer cover plate nut retainers off as well   before a bit more polishing

    

215Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:15 pm

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Love your work Charlie👍🏻

    

216Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:12 pm

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I'm seriously impressed by the standard of work you do Charlie.

Good on ya!

But...if it's clean to start with, you are going to have to keep it clean...all the time...week in, week out...year after year after year. Laughing

    

217Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:26 am

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Now you've done it, you are now going to have to polish the engine to match.
Regards Martin.

    

218Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:48 am

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geez …

thanks guys ...positive comments keep this old bloke trying hard to make the best of what has been contributed from some awesome folks around the country
even some overseas help has arrived ...sometimes quite unexpectedly ..along with the odd, negotiated small parts finds ….  thanks 

you know who you are

and I feel blessed that I have friends like you all

cheers

    

219Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:49 pm

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@charlie99 wrote:geez …

thanks guys ...positive comments keep this old bloke trying hard to make the best of what has been contributed from some awesome folks around the country
even some overseas help has arrived ...sometimes quite unexpectedly ..along with the odd, negotiated small parts finds ….  thanks 

you know who you are

and I feel blessed that I have friends like you all

cheers
Charlie, you keep making the rest of us look bad.  I do not think any K rolled off the grimy factory floor looking half as clean as your bike is.  Keep up the awesome work and maybe one day I will have something as nice as you are making everything!

    

220Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:04 am

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@MartinW wrote:Now you've done it, you are now going to have to polish the engine to match.
Regards Martin.

oh ? you haven't seen this yet martin ?

possibly earlier posts and pictures may have disappeared ?



but sump coming off now for a output shaft change over ( its got a bit of movement im afraid ) and the water pump issue ...now found

and of corse stainless screws to go back in on the non structural  covers and plates ...and a bit more work to come

    

221Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Fri Jul 27, 2018 6:37 am

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last bit on the muffler ...for now


    

222Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Sat Jul 28, 2018 5:44 pm

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matt passed on to me  some very helpful stuff last weekend....with many thanks mate

as it was ...and in bits




 as it now is




now to find a clutch perch


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223Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Fri Aug 10, 2018 5:25 am

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old parts cleaning up
the Charlie treatment

even has the Sidecar Paul Tank release  Mod ….win ….now to find some tank catch internal parts






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224Back to top Go down    83-84 engine cleanup on Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:08 pm

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Charlie PM me about some bits I might have. Cheers Tom


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225Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:16 pm

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so whilst I was going ...with all the bits out and ready

a second cleanup occurred ...a bit of polishing this time , rather than the satin (which I like )  bloody tragic that I am








better put one of them back on Gerty  eh ?

cheers Tom ...will do , bloomin forgot to respond


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226Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:51 am

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bit more playing with the motor today
finally pulled the sump and output shaft

unfortunately the sump is buggered , the face of the pump assembly is had it ...there are deep scores around the large gear (that was bound into the housing )  and it has scored the bridge between the ventricles of the two gears -pump








there s a bit of a clue to how this may have happened whilst looking at the pump end of a very worn output shaft






of corse the old antibacklash spring is bound into the rivet heads and cut-worn  a new grove in the spring at the retaining point

the rubber buffers in the buffer housing have shrunk markedly allowing lots of movement (expected )  ...and about 2mm movement in the fixing rivets










fortunately smithy has loaned me an output shaft fit for purpose , with a replaced and newer version antibacklash spring , no noticeable movement in the rivets ...but the buffer rubbers are a close fit rather than a tight fit …

may have to machine a grove into the later version sump I have here (with good pump faces ) to allow the old style bearing on the output shaft

so on we go ...


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227Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:45 pm

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That's some serious mechanics you have going on there. Awesome job mate


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228Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:17 pm

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thanks mate

i better look at the crank bearings etc before going further , there maybe signs of crap that has entered them ...but maybe the filter has caught it before going further fingers crossed ?  nothing would surprise me at all with this one .


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229Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:51 am

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gutted ...all that nice white paintwork for the red frame project ...is going brownish ....

likely the poxy clear coat that i used over it ....i should have known better than to use the septone version …

i have found a new version of clear coat from a different supplier …


compare the helmet and the fender ...were the same colour once upon a time not long ago





 ...the difference is the different clear coat ...

has affected the main fairing . rear cowl and everything else i did back then ....

i guess rub it all back to base colour and start again ........

will wait a few weeks till the temperature has settled into the 20s overnight instead of 4 and 5 c


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230Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:17 am

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That is... not funny. At all.

I've no idea what the grill is on the floor Charlie, but it gave me an idea (and I bet you've already got there). I replaced the mesh on the radiator guard with stainless steel. No more rusty bits.


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231Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:49 pm

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Aw, that's a crying shame Charlie after the huge amount of effort you put into the paint job. Still, the silver lining is, with all that extra rubbing down, the end product will be even more fabulous than it was before. I hope you didn't use that pesky clear coat on any other bits that may not have been exposed to that gentle Queensland sunshine yet.
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232Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:18 am

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cutting back and touching up , before a fresh coat of colour , and the newer clear coat

and yes your right , gives a bit more finesse to the appearance ...ill get there  ...in time


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233Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:33 am

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some bits back to white again




and a bit of a mockup ,,,still not right dimensions yet ...but maybe an idea worth exploring huh ?

must finish that tank repair , to match the build







yes the tank will eventually be white


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234Back to top Go down    83-84 engine clean up on Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:42 am

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Gees Charlie I hope you also get some high density foam for the the seat or you may need heaps of Preparation H... Very Happy

    

235Back to top Go down    83-84 engine clean up on Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:54 pm

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or learn to enjoy this   https://youtu.be/M8J8urC_8Jw    affraid

    

236Back to top Go down    83-84 engine clean up on Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:04 pm

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based on the  Nutcracker "Seat"  lol!

    

237Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:13 pm

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well along the path of making a single seat , out of a standard "hard as a plank" regular one

including replacing the rock hard core under the base layer , for something I hope to be more comfortable




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238Back to top Go down    Re: 83-84 engine cleanup Yesterday at 1:31 am

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foot peg plate  revisit ….better ???


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