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201Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:02 pm

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last bit before valve lapping ….and waiting for parts to be ordered

thought to clean up at least some of the sand casting marks in the combustion chamber ...by no means perfect but far less pointy bits of aluminium to gather carbon and pre ignite

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202Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:33 pm

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valves lapped
just to find the valve spring compressor and fit the parts back together

the valve stems seals are still holding the valves in place , so I guess they might last a bit longer ?

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203Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:29 pm

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83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Valve_10Charlie I have a valve spring compressor that goes on over the spring and them you screw it down. It is meant to be used with an air fitting that screws into the spark plug hole. Air is supposed to hold the valve up while you screw the compressor down. I also have and older one if I can find it similar to the one in the picture.  I am in the process of sorting and rearranging my garage so I do know where it isn't. 83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 44271 Let me know and I can bring them to the Lowood swap meet. 83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 112350
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204Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:46 pm

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thanks martin
its here , just in a box to drag out later ...


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205Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:16 pm

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83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 112350 Charlie I misread your post I thought you needed one. 83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 610153
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206Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:51 am

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finished this bit for now  ...till I pull the camshafts out of the old motor
hate valve retainer collets , and old shakey hands

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207Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:23 am

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thought to start on the wiring loom
some interesting challenges ahead I guess

as you would expect from something near ancient ...giggles …
the loom itself looks ok , some insulation wrapping needing attention

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some interesting mods

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and some typical corrosion points needing attention

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lets see what develops


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208Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:28 am

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A man of your tallents will have that behaving its self in no time


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209Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:47 am

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ill give the deoxit a day or so to work

then cleaners and deoxit again


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210Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:25 pm

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With so many little dremel knockoffs on the market. A trip to Bunnings or a reject shop can yield plenty of little match stick sizes grinders. I know they are meant for the replica dremels but a lot of the little carbide impregnated bits would be just useful between thumb and forefinger to clean up some of those little sockets joints.


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211Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Fri Jul 20, 2018 4:14 am

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good idea keith

I have a few various pc board  drills here also  which will help with the small internal type fitting sockets

after a couple of days ..the deoxit has worked quite well  so far

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a clean up with flux remover and electronic cleaning solvent  and toothbrush or similar may restore - clean the surface without using some abrasive materials

followed by the deoxit when mating up , later on in the build


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212Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:41 pm

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Charlie - you're gunna hate me for this - junk it and build a new one. The PVC sheathing in that loom is, by now, looking for somewhere really inconvenient to split on you.


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213Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:12 pm

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oh ?
it gets better Dai

check this out

some time in its past it has suffered a headlight short condition

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and to the left side switch block

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and of course to the right hand side

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I do have another loom here ...but from a earlier vintage , with the tank connector down the front …

will see what can be done


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214Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:32 pm

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bit of a clean up on a modified exhaust , care of Al Pennykid

its been a bit bumped about this one , with years of crud bonded to the underside and hard to get at exposed areas

before

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during

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and near the end

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still some deep scars of corroded stainless exist ...but cutting them back is hard work indeed … may get inspired to dig deeper yet … but don't want to go any thinner on the metal just in this spot , just under and behind the foot peg plate , fortunately the 84 footpeg plate doesn't have the additional guard section just there

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may even cut the last two silencer cover plate nut retainers off as well   before a bit more polishing

    

215Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:15 pm

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Love your work Charlie👍🏻

    

216Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:12 pm

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I'm seriously impressed by the standard of work you do Charlie.

Good on ya!

But...if it's clean to start with, you are going to have to keep it clean...all the time...week in, week out...year after year after year. Laughing

    

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Now you've done it, you are now going to have to polish the engine to match. 83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 112350
Regards Martin.

    

218Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:48 am

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geez …

thanks guys ...positive comments keep this old bloke trying hard to make the best of what has been contributed from some awesome folks around the country
even some overseas help has arrived ...sometimes quite unexpectedly ..along with the odd, negotiated small parts finds ….  thanks 

you know who you are

and I feel blessed that I have friends like you all

cheers

    

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@charlie99 wrote:geez …

thanks guys ...positive comments keep this old bloke trying hard to make the best of what has been contributed from some awesome folks around the country
even some overseas help has arrived ...sometimes quite unexpectedly ..along with the odd, negotiated small parts finds ….  thanks 

you know who you are

and I feel blessed that I have friends like you all

cheers
Charlie, you keep making the rest of us look bad.  I do not think any K rolled off the grimy factory floor looking half as clean as your bike is.  Keep up the awesome work and maybe one day I will have something as nice as you are making everything!

    

220Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:04 am

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@MartinW wrote:Now you've done it, you are now going to have to polish the engine to match. 83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 112350
Regards Martin.

oh ? you haven't seen this yet martin ?

possibly earlier posts and pictures may have disappeared ?

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but sump coming off now for a output shaft change over ( its got a bit of movement im afraid ) and the water pump issue ...now found

and of corse stainless screws to go back in on the non structural  covers and plates ...and a bit more work to come

    

221Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Fri Jul 27, 2018 6:37 am

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last bit on the muffler ...for now


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222Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Sat Jul 28, 2018 5:44 pm

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matt passed on to me  some very helpful stuff last weekend....with many thanks mate

as it was ...and in bits


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 as it now is


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now to find a clutch perch


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223Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Fri Aug 10, 2018 5:25 am

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old parts cleaning up
the Charlie treatment

even has the Sidecar Paul Tank release  Mod ….win ….now to find some tank catch internal parts

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'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Au-log10

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Charlie PM me about some bits I might have. Cheers Tom


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225Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:16 pm

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so whilst I was going ...with all the bits out and ready

a second cleanup occurred ...a bit of polishing this time , rather than the satin (which I like )  bloody tragic that I am

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better put one of them back on Gerty  eh ?

cheers Tom ...will do , bloomin forgot to respond


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226Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:51 am

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bit more playing with the motor today
finally pulled the sump and output shaft

unfortunately the sump is buggered , the face of the pump assembly is had it ...there are deep scores around the large gear (that was bound into the housing )  and it has scored the bridge between the ventricles of the two gears -pump


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there s a bit of a clue to how this may have happened whilst looking at the pump end of a very worn output shaft

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of corse the old antibacklash spring is bound into the rivet heads and cut-worn  a new grove in the spring at the retaining point

the rubber buffers in the buffer housing have shrunk markedly allowing lots of movement (expected )  ...and about 2mm movement in the fixing rivets

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fortunately smithy has loaned me an output shaft fit for purpose , with a replaced and newer version antibacklash spring , no noticeable movement in the rivets ...but the buffer rubbers are a close fit rather than a tight fit …

may have to machine a grove into the later version sump I have here (with good pump faces ) to allow the old style bearing on the output shaft

so on we go ...


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227Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:45 pm

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That's some serious mechanics you have going on there. Awesome job mate


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228Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:17 pm

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thanks mate

i better look at the crank bearings etc before going further , there maybe signs of crap that has entered them ...but maybe the filter has caught it before going further fingers crossed ?  nothing would surprise me at all with this one .


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229Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:51 am

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gutted ...all that nice white paintwork for the red frame project ...is going brownish ....

likely the poxy clear coat that i used over it ....i should have known better than to use the septone version …

i have found a new version of clear coat from a different supplier …


compare the helmet and the fender ...were the same colour once upon a time not long ago

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 ...the difference is the different clear coat ...

has affected the main fairing . rear cowl and everything else i did back then ....

i guess rub it all back to base colour and start again ........

will wait a few weeks till the temperature has settled into the 20s overnight instead of 4 and 5 c


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'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Au-log10

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That is... not funny. At all.

I've no idea what the grill is on the floor Charlie, but it gave me an idea (and I bet you've already got there). I replaced the mesh on the radiator guard with stainless steel. No more rusty bits.


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Aw, that's a crying shame Charlie after the huge amount of effort you put into the paint job. Still, the silver lining is, with all that extra rubbing down, the end product will be even more fabulous than it was before. I hope you didn't use that pesky clear coat on any other bits that may not have been exposed to that gentle Queensland sunshine yet.
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"Gretel" K100LT 1989 (Silver Grey) (VIN 0177324 Engine No. 104EA 2789 2211) - 4th+ owner. September 2015 (58,500miles and counting....). Cat C Insurance write-off rebuild Feb 17
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232Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:18 am

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cutting back and touching up , before a fresh coat of colour , and the newer clear coat

and yes your right , gives a bit more finesse to the appearance ...ill get there  ...in time

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'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Au-log10

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some bits back to white again

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and a bit of a mockup ,,,still not right dimensions yet ...but maybe an idea worth exploring huh ?

must finish that tank repair , to match the build

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yes the tank will eventually be white


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Gees Charlie I hope you also get some high density foam for the the seat or you may need heaps of Preparation H... Very Happy

    

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or learn to enjoy this   https://youtu.be/M8J8urC_8Jw    affraid

    

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based on the  Nutcracker "Seat"  lol!

    

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well along the path of making a single seat , out of a standard "hard as a plank" regular one

including replacing the rock hard core under the base layer , for something I hope to be more comfortable

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'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Au-log10

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foot peg plate  revisit ….better ???

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getting closer to wiring a loom together
arrived yesterday  some loom tape

2 x types.  the normal tight weave tape  and another what is called a "fleece tape"

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just to wait on some suitable 4mm cables of different colours for some extra wiring options  ie repurposing the ignition switch to operate a relay for ignition things


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'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Au-log10

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whilst cleaning stuff this week ...and with some reasonable results to footpeg plates
thought to pull out the swing arm for the red frame project , the clear coat darkening over time , now removed


bit of a clean up before attempting similar to Gerty , call it research

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also did the starter motor

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I guess wax maybe the way to keep it clean ???


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241Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:51 am

Dai

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Present for you Charlie. This is the diagram I use for commercial builds.

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242Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:28 am

charlie99

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cool thanks Dai

all similar details to be applied in my loom

but the key switch will switch a relay back in the electrics box , so some of the wiring will be duplicated in some areas , but that's not an issue I can see causing any problems ,

but a few  more relays to go in there , to make room, the bmu will go , etc

some extra control cables from dash back there as well (aux lights , fan control , voltage indicator , usb output  and more )

a few cables to be replaced with same - similar colour with a bigger cross section ...etc

different connectors to tank and a few other locations …

the list goes on mate


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Dai

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The company actually mounts the sidecar electrics box in the seat well - the body design makes it easy to get at and it puts it in a weatherproof area. I use these (or similar) as the fuseboxes, simply because its an immediate failure indicator:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-Way-Blade-Fuse-Box-with-LED-Indicator-Fuse-Block-for-Car-Boat-Marine-H8K2/323477011607?hash=item4b50bb7c97:g:YEkAAOSw1ZBbrivM

I put another 5mm setscrew in one corner to use as the common earth point. Also, the electronics box I use has a transparent lid so you can see the fuses. If you don't want to put a box in the sidecar, there's more than enough room to put relays and fusebox on a plate in the sandwich box (seat hump! Very Happy ).

Also, I see that the forum software is having problems displaying the headlight high beam wire. On my original diagram I use a very light grey (slate) as a stand-in for white: it should be attached to pin 87a on the headlight relay.


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244Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 5 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup on Fri Oct 05, 2018 11:43 pm

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got some "Ultrabond " for repairs on the fuel tanks , and a portagas type burner

initial results were very poor , as I couldn't get enough heat into the metal on the tank ,,,, it just spread the heat out away from the area
so armed with some MAPP type gas rather than butane , and lots of patience  it finally got to heat ,,,just

just enough for a good tinning process and a good flow of material to cover the small and large holes apparent

still to do a pressure type test,  but looking like it should work out ok

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nearly cant see that its been done from top side

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Dai

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Charlie... I don't want to scare you BUT... I find with that stuff (also call Durafix) you need to get the area at least 50% hotter than flow rate and you need to apply around 50% more than you thought you'd need. Really, really double-double-double check it; if you can see the slightest hint of an edge, try levering it off because there's a large chance it will depart when you least want it to. And let me ask a stupid question: you did clean the weld area with a stainless steel brush? If you used an ordinary wire brush then there's a large chance you may have contaminated the weld because the ordinary brush will leave microscopic iron filings behind. The stainless one doesn't.

Yes, I've had what appeared to be a perfectly good weld fail on me because I didn't follow the instructions exactly... Fortunately it wasn't somewhere critical.

For anyone that's interested, here's Durafix' website: http://durafix.com/


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dai   the tinning process went right to the edge ,,, later the pool overlapped the tinned section
I have jiggled it pulled at it , filed it and sanded it with an orbital sander ,,and it doesn't budge at all ...pretty hard stuff to work actually

at the moment I have the tank sorta sideways so that some vinegar is sitting where the four holes (2 x above the tank weld , more pin pricks  and 2x larger ones on the under side )   waiting to see if there are any leaks .

ill get a fuel sender seal in there and attach the sender  and double up the send and receive fuel spigots  and shunt the  breather tube , maybe make a sealing lid filler hole for the so that I can get a bit of pressure in there for a test ,,, should be able to use the breather tube as a inlet ?

might push a slight ding in the top right hand side out eh ?


thanks for the heads up mate ...appreciate it !!


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Dai

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You're welcome. I'd rather set off a panic now than have you find a hole miles out in the bush.


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'03 Suzuki Blandit GSF600SK3 (NFS any more because wifey has claimed it)
    

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a couple of wins at the swap meet yesterday …
first a cooler ,

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then some mx bars ,all pretty and anodised ....yeah right …

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then the mx bars cleaned up …

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should give me a wider stance , similar to rt bars with the risers on the head ...(50mm up and back )

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the bars used to measure 22.25 mm now about 22.05 mm ...should fit ? or close to …

the throttle tube over the bars is smooth at least and doesnt catch

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some more work today , attempting to clean off the black paint on those levers
its pretty hard stuff with no chemicals able to shift  the black stuff off (that I have found yet )
so resorted to abrasive methods as usual

looks ok

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and dug out a clutch lever  for similar treatment …..still to find a perch yet ...but will be found

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Charlie, I'm pretty sure those levers are powder coated.  If you can't find a perch locally, I have a couple in my spares pile.  You are welcome to one of them for the(not insubstantial) postage to Oz.


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norton71

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Try heat dear charlie ..try heat .. much the same as https://youtu.be/yD-ffhvefsw

Very Happy

    

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