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norton71


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Try heat dear charlie ..try heat .. much the same as https://youtu.be/yD-ffhvefsw

Very Happy

    

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charlie99

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finally got round to fitting up one of those el cheepo  rear master cylinders

the metalwork on the mod looks substantial enough to do the job

the lever lines up well , just to find a rubber boot between lever and pushrod , and some protection for the fluid feed

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should look ok when on the bike ….eh ?


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Point-Seven-five

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I have them installed on two of my bricks now.  Only complaint is that gold color that just doesn't match anything.


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1994 K75RT
1991 K100RS

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1994 BMW K75S
1992 BMW K100RS
1982 Honda FT500
1979 Honda XR185
1977 Honda XL125
1974 Honda XL125
1972 OSSA Pioneer 250
1968 Kawasaki 175
    

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charlie99

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easy to spray a different colour before install I recon ...just choose something ruged in paint type  ?

I thought the mate up to the pivot was pretty good ...likely find a bit of rubber to install between pushrod and pin to cushion the action a bit ...like the original ?

hows the long term operation like ?


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charlie99

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water pump redo ,
we all know what the water pump housing is like ...black... with a couple of spigots for sensors out the bottom

so with my ever increasing OCD ...lol .. decided to strip the paint off it

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and a little more cleaning

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so dug out the front cover to assemble the parts together , ready to attach to a sump , hopefully arriving soon

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some of you may know I looked at a house with a shed recently , with little hope of getting a lease , there were many other applicants already in the system .

after our group meet at the northern tablelands ride event  ((thanks smithy mate , much appreciated

I travelled to glen Innes again to search for other other options , that might be suitable ….surprisingly  a call came from the real estate agent , confirming my successful application ….yippeeeeee  !

a holding deposit was placed  and signing the lease and getting the keys  will be November the 30th  

so now ...at long last..... I will have a shed

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and a front verandah for sitting with friends and family


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Two Wheels Better

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Three cheers, mate! That is incredible. Nice to know one can still live the dream. Now you'll need a lawnmower or a goat for that lawn! 

The shiny bits look good, too.
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1987 K100RS, '89 K100 w/K1100RS engine, '93 Framed K11/K12 engine 'Big Block', '96 K1100RS, '09 K1300GT, '07 K1200R, '95 R100 Mystic & '77 R75/7.

    

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BTW, as I too am moving and have to pack up copious amounts of things I need coupled with things I don't, I managed to locate this little beaudy in a box on the bottom shelf. It's got the clutch switch and both cables attached to it. Perform your shiny magiK on it. If you're still in need, give me an address and it'll go out tomorrow. Don't worry 'bout it, I've got two extras...
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1987 K100RS, '89 K100 w/K1100RS engine, '93 Framed K11/K12 engine 'Big Block', '96 K1100RS, '09 K1300GT, '07 K1200R, '95 R100 Mystic & '77 R75/7.

    

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Stan

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Welcome to NSW Charlie. It does get a wee cold up there.


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charlie99

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cheers guys

thanks

its been quite a while since I had a shed , about 1990 was the last time, before selling the family home down at Lismore

yes  that's a beauty Twb  need one of those !!


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Woodie

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Looks great Charlie, enjoy your new polishing facility!  Very Happy


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charlie99

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a posted sump replacement went missing for a few days , till I found the delivery notice hiding in a dark place just this afternoon

many thanks to Ben Kingham of BSK speedworks for helping this project get back on tracks .  cheers mate , appreciate the help
surprisingly the engine serial numbers indicate it was made in the same week of the same year of production , just a few units difference , and will wear my serial number in the not to distant future .

the sump could do with a little cleanup externally , well, allover actually , but a little resurfacing with a stone on the oil pump running surfaces nearly completely eliminated any score marks  along the face of the oil pump impeller areas, yippeeee !!

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but back in the box ...till I move house


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MartinW

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Charlie the rubber boot I supplied to you works well with the Chinese master cylinder. I have more in the kitty.
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true indeed martin
but I have used the old adjuster bolt - pivot point incorporated  rather than put the shaft directly thought the arm as it will give a degree of direct pressure straight into the master cylinder ...its a radius thing ???

cheers mate


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MartinW

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Mine is not direct it has a pivot under the boot. See http://www.motobrick.com/index.php/topic,9364.msg90596.html#msg90596
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charlie99

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that's better , wasn't clear before with the boot

cheers


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MartinW

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In order to get the boot to fully cover everything as per the first picture I moved the lock nut to the rear. I had to grind a bit of the brake pedal away to allow the nut to seat flat. And to allow adjustment I slotted the bolt. Whenever I mount boots I fill them and the entry to the master cylinder with silicone grease it stops any possibility of water and dirt ingress. I think I've bought the wet weather with me from down south. The brick was sitting patiently in the garage, looking forward to getting back in the saddle. And while I was gallivanting around Tas I managed to score two mint K75s front indicators. Good luck with your new abode when's the house warming? 83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 6 112350
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charlie99

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house warming ….hmmm  not sure yet , even about getting all the boxes up there within a week   

we have plans for craigs son Daniel to drive the Cruze back up  after a pickup  on the first of December . hopefully with a smallish truck full of bits

but its looking like renting anything out of glenn innes is almost twice as expensive as Brisbane

updates as they happen mate , but any time after 2nd  of December I expect ….lol

all welcome


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charlie99

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bit of a hiatus on the project whilst I move ,its all in a shed for now

soon to be off , (by tin box) to a new home

Gerty is parked up with Matt in brissy, till I can get back down here either with a removalist and truck
or a fb ute and huge trailer


the shed is almost full with just a lounge and a/c unit to fit in tomorrow

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In my ideal world the shed housing my motorbikes would be just a coupla (covered) steps away from the house, and a fridge would be between them.


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1987 K100RS, '89 K100 w/K1100RS engine, '93 Framed K11/K12 engine 'Big Block', '96 K1100RS, '09 K1300GT, '07 K1200R, '95 R100 Mystic & '77 R75/7.

    

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whilst moving , placed a couple of orders for parts associated with the output shaft rebuild , head swap etc

ordered just 6 days ago from Motor works in the UK ...these parts will fill some holes in the build list

thanks to the guys at motor works  ... just amazing !!!


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took some time off house building - moving stuff

brought some parts back from brissy on Tuesday to keep my fingers busy

with limited tools , started striping the paint off a new to me sump
ready for the project

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more to do on this when the right tools make the journey up from the coast,  perhaps in a few weeks , but just a glimpse of what im hoping to achieve

also fitted the new output shaft damper drum rubbers  just arrived ,,,and the difference is very noticeable both in tensioning and positioning of the drum around the core of the shaft , no movement at all now .
im sure this will make a huge difference to vibrations emanating from the aged motor, to go back into service .

berts fantastic calendar made an appearance as a complete surprise care of Smithy , thanks mate , what wall decor that will be

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head swap maybe later this week .

and finally Merry Christmas to you all ,, from down here in the highlands


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so Christmas day and all is quiet at 9.00 am  next appointment about 12.30 pm  and ocd kicks in

hmm lets see inside this motor , remember the exhaust clearances were somewhere about 5 thou  .127 mm  to start with

dismantling

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good gasket seal

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some interesting carbon deposits , wonder if this is the clue to clearances too tight

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head appears pretty stock but will investigate seats and valves at another time



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boxing day cleanup of gasket area and pistons ,didn't take long at all

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ready for the head I cleaned up back in july , 86 model with the different seats below

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should be all buttoned up a little later today sometime


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Woodie

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Well Merry Christmas and all but what is this Boxing Day you speak of?  Here in Canada it is only Christmas Day  Very Happy  One thing I have noticed on my own and other's K's is the asymetric carbonisation of the heads (that might be some Christmas cheer induced terminology).  Is there any good engineering/scientific explanation of this?  The engine is looking fabulous nonetheless Charlie and I appreciate all the pictures to use as a benchmark for my own work.

Cheers, Woodie


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@charlie99 wrote:head swap maybe later this week .
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Sorry Charlie Very Happy


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@Woodie wrote:Well Merry Christmas and all but what is this Boxing Day you speak of?  Here in Canada it is only Christmas Day  Very Happy  One thing I have noticed on my own and other's K's is the asymetric carbonisation of the heads (that might be some Christmas cheer induced terminology).  Is there any good engineering/scientific explanation of this?  The engine is looking fabulous nonetheless Charlie and I appreciate all the pictures to use as a benchmark for my own work.

Cheers, Woodie
Boxing day is supposed to be the day when all the rich bastards who could afford a lavish Christmas Party boxed up all the left overs and distributed them to the Poor deserving mugs who had no Christmas at all.
But nowdays everybody who wants a lavish Christmas Party just fires up the old credit card and has one then they are the poor the next day so eat all the left overs and the box manufacturers go broke. Cynical yes I know but if there is one thing I have learned in my close to 70 years on this earth is that I have not been anywhere cynical enough.


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"Cynical yes I know but if there is one thing I have learned in my close to 70 years on this earth is that I have not been anywhere cynical enough."  Hear, hear!! ("Won't Get Fooled Again" is the soundtrack playing in my head just now)


I know about the original intention for the day after Christmas and my house really needs to get back to that but I was just highlighting the time difference between 'youse and us.  I'm just coasting to the end of Christmas day at the moment Very Happy


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@Woodie wrote:"Cynical yes I know but if there is one thing I have learned in my close to 70 years on this earth is that I have not been anywhere cynical enough."  Hear, hear!! ("Won't Get Fooled Again" is the soundtrack playing in my head just now)


I know about the original intention for the day after Christmas and my house really needs to get back to that but I was just highlighting the time difference between 'youse and us.  I'm just coasting to the end of Christmas day at the moment Very Happy
RickG is a good 18 hours ahead of those of us on the US west coast, and likely 15 ahead of you, Woodie. The rest of the east coast of OZ is an hour more ahead due to Daylight Saving Time and Summer and all. It's barely 4c and raining outdoors here at the moment. Ah, what I'd give this very instant to feel those warm breezes and radiant sun on my back, with 50spf on for sure!


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It sure has been great weather here best riding days summer could dish up and I am unfortunately stuck here still working on this darn X5.


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Below freezing here at the moment but tomorrow might see some rideable temperatures.  The current forecast is calling for the same conditions in the new year so I'm really hopeful to get out in January.  Oz it ain't but I'll take it!


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crikey Al ...good to see you back home after the nature experiences ...lol

yes its been very nice temperature wise up here on the tablelands  far less humid than down in brissy , just kicking myself that I went and broke my shoulder (ac joint ) and unable to ride for a while yet , mean while Gerty is back at Matts place in brissy , oh well not too many weeks to go before I can throw a leg over again .
although first weekend here I did get to ride smithys rs into Guyra , to visit seanii , sweet bike ,

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the motor has got its head on  and thanks to fb (as I don't have any manuals handy ) was able to torque up the head bolts to correct spec and install the camshafts  and some shims to measure the clearances ,

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 so far I have a couple of outlets with 2.40 shims measuring about 11 thou (.279 mm)  which is right in the ball park for a good fit ,







the inlets with the same shims are also measuring about 11 thou ,, 

I pulled 4 x 2.40    2 x 2.60  1 x 2.55   1 x 2.65  from the old motor  so with a little swaping etc  could end up with only needing a couple of additions shim sizes for a final fix but will need a help as I don't have a tool for pulling the shims at hand , for the moment ..

the cam chain tensioner ordered to fit a k75  has the same tooth configuration that I noticed on twbs rs , many moons ago , rather than the snail cam tensioner , which suffers from wear and will relax a few mm from full tension all the time

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and a new bow plastic tensioner rail will be fitted , as the old one is showing typical wear marks .. the others are fine as usual .

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but I need some help

without a manual to hand, i cant remember the orientation of the cam sprockets when at tdc on no. one    is it both indicators directly up ? seems to hit a chord in my memory , just need confirming ..




and lastly for today  did a little polishing of the sump face that sits near the exhaust ...the finned areas will have to wait till I can get access to a bead - soda blaster to clean out the paint - corrosion deep in the fins ...blast !!

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83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 6 112350 Looking good Charlie you're going to need sunnies to look at it shortly.
Regards Martin.


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Just caught up on the thread Charlie. Excellent, considered work as usual.
Sorry to hear about the shoulder.
Also, congratulations on the new digs. But I'm a bit concerned that all those photos of shinny bits will be replaced with pictures of you mowing all that grass......

Cheers, Dee


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AL-58

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@charlie99 wrote:
but I need some help

without a manual to hand, i cant remember the orientation of the cam sprockets when at tdc on no. one    is it both indicators directly up ? seems to hit a chord in my memory , just need confirming ..




and lastly for today  did a little polishing of the sump face that sits near the exhaust ...the finned areas will have to wait till I can get access to a bead - soda blaster to clean out the paint - corrosion deep in the fins ...blast !!

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I can't help you with the arrows up or down but it's easy to figure out another way.  The #1 inlet and exhaust lobes point towards each other at TDC, the arrow direction at the sprockets then becomes obvious.

I pulled my other posting as it was so far off topic it really didn't belong.

Maybe under another posting 'An Aussie Christmas"

Al


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@charlie99 wrote:without a manual to hand, i cant remember the orientation of the cam sprockets when at tdc on no. one    is it both indicators directly up ? seems to hit a chord in my memory , just need confirming ..
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thanks Laitch , Al  


yes that does help

cheers


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just for Darren (twb) who sent me a clutch perch inc cables recently m bmw black of corse

without a vice or other helpful things , made a start on the perch , starting to look ok   eh?


besides a whopping great big defect in the casting , at the front ...will look the part in the end
more to come

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thanks dazza


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Damn, you have a knack, Chazza. I can't wait to see the final, finished machine. All that red and all that shiny.
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just an update

I now have a shed that i can work in

just added a roof  and painted it white , just now

and some lighting ...woohoo !!!

old motor on the bench waiting for a shim to finish off the head transplant (2.65mm)



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shed floor levelling before I can get Gerty up to her new home

not far off now , and the rest of the bits and pieces required to continue the build , (and there are lots of bits ...giggle )

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trip to brissy to collect some stuff planned for this week


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and a shoot load of stuff heading to the new place

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the remains in the temporary shed need to be carried "in cab " don't want some of that electronics to get wet , even by accident  so will pick it up Wednesday when I return the truck

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the red frame has made it to the Glen ….woohoo !!

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still to sort out lots of storage locations


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How much of a top speed increase will a red frame give you. You could also do the valve cover and engine cover crinkle red ala Ferrari. Looking good.83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 6 112350
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@MartinW wrote:How much of a top speed increase will a red frame give you. 
Got to be at least 10% doesn’t it?

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1985 K100RT  VIN 0029036  BOB the Blue Old Bike  (Historic rego)
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1984 K100RT  VIN 0023022  Work needing lots of progress

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is it kevin bloody Wilson  (real stage name ) that did that ditty about alan bond  ("livin next door to alan" ) note ...old school and quite racist )   https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=living+next+door+to+alan+original&view=detail&mid=24EF940C027B17BA2A3D24EF940C027B17BA2A3D&FORM=VIRE

 ….a line out of that song says …..   "I got a faster one ..because its red ? " or something like that

 lol

but to be honest iv always done a red frame in " ground up builds"

Ducati , Yamaha and a couple of others …

the possibilities of a splash of colour ...is a long way from typical bmw colour schemes ….yes ???


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I know where you're coming from, only my bitsa builds tend to be blue.


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sump plate and sump received some attention from  one of seaniis friends  with "all the gear" Andrew

surfaces blasted to remove the stubborn paint  

leaving a less than desirable pitted finish ...but hopefully can be cleaned up to a shiney look ..but hell its clean

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WOW  Charlie, you have skill its gona look the bees nees

    

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When you get that bike on the road, you'd be nuts to actually use it!

If I had it, it'd go straight to the pool room!

Oh...I'd think about painting the frame green. Have you seen the prices being asked for green-frame Ducatis?!?  Shocked


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lol thanks guys

and yes Blakey I have seen those posts about green frames ...in fb ...bevel heaven  and so many pages

cheers

the soda blasting has created a whole new challenge to get it back to shiney stuff ….giggles


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