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1Back to top Go down   Starting problems K 100RS -90. Empty Starting problems K 100RS -90. on Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:37 am

el.sueco.ltd

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I have a problem with my K100RS 1990. I left it parked, for a period but when I tried to start it again it did not start. Starting the fault finding I noticed  that the Starter brushes  was warne  out.  I cleaned the starter and changed  the brushes. And the starter was working again. But the problem is that obviously  the signal to give the spark to the plugs is lacking. The coils has been tested and are o.k.  I have checked all connections in the wire loom and they are o.k. It has come to the point that I haven´t got a clue whats wrong.


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2Back to top Go down   Starting problems K 100RS -90. Empty Re: Starting problems K 100RS -90. on Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:29 am

Crazy Frog

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Are you sure that the problem is ignition related? Do you get Fuel pressure and power at your injectors?


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3Back to top Go down   Starting problems K 100RS -90. Empty Re: Starting problems K 100RS -90. on Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:46 am

Holister

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Indeed CF.
Does the fuel pump run?
Are the spark plugs wet, dry, sooty or grey??
Also, what's the voltage on your battery after it's rested for a day?

And welKome  to our community el.sueco.ltd


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1989 K100RT     VIN No.  0097367 (naked)  
1996 K1100RS   VIN No.  0451808
  Starting problems K 100RS -90. Austra12    Fuel:  95 Octane
Engine Oil: Nulon Full Synthetic 15W50
Gear Box Oil:  Nulon Synthetic 75W90
    

4Back to top Go down   Starting problems K 100RS -90. Empty Spark on Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:48 am

el.sueco.ltd

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I have checked everything but no spark to the plugs.


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5Back to top Go down   Starting problems K 100RS -90. Empty Re: Starting problems K 100RS -90. on Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:51 am

el.sueco.ltd

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All cables are tested. I wonder if it could be the hall sensors or the control box. Fuel is commin thru and the fuel pumps are o.k.


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el.sueco.ltd

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A new battery si fitted allthough the old one was in good condition.


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7Back to top Go down   Starting problems K 100RS -90. Empty Re: Starting problems K 100RS -90. on Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:56 am

Chocolate

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Hey!

The problem could be ignition  unit or ECU. It's more likely a coil is bad, but you have tested them and the cables AND THE CONNECTIONS?!
The full pump should be running an make noise.
Do you have somebody to test swap the ignition unit or ECU?


Cheers


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8Back to top Go down   Starting problems K 100RS -90. Empty Re: Starting problems K 100RS -90. on Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:18 am

el.sueco.ltd

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All cables are tested and good. The ignition unit has been replaced. Problems to fund a ECU to change with. To buy a new without knowing is a bit expensive.


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9Back to top Go down   Starting problems K 100RS -90. Empty Re: Starting problems K 100RS -90. on Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:18 am

Chocolate

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But still, could the issue be here, ECU CDI ECM WIRE WIRING HARNESS LOOM ?

Starting problems K 100RS -90. Img_2617

Tested for good ground?

There must be a other K close to you to test/swap?!
http://www.bmwklubben.se/forum/viewtopic.php?f=274&t=20694
https://www.blocket.se/stockholm/BMW_cafe_racer_1000cc_71510745.htm

Cheers


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K75 BA/1992 ABS, K75 BA/1991 noABS, Ducati, Mobylette M1/1973
    

10Back to top Go down   Starting problems K 100RS -90. Empty Re: Starting problems K 100RS -90. on Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:22 pm

KJustin

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Just to be sure the obvious is not overlooked, be sure to clean the ICU (under tank, by the headstock) connection with DeOxit or similar. And also be sure the connection is well-seated. It's pretty easy to knock loose. I've had no spark/intermittent spark problems twice now in this area.


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11Back to top Go down   Starting problems K 100RS -90. Empty Re: Starting problems K 100RS -90. on Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:54 pm

92KK 84WW Olaf

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The plug into the unit under the seat might be a suspect. The fact that you changed the battery means this was disturbed. The plug connector into this unit can cause this problem, been there with the exact same problem.

Is the engine trying to fire when you press the starter button or just simply turning over?


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1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 100,380 miles
1983 K100RS 0011171 Fricka 606 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell No 33,600 miles
    

12Back to top Go down   Starting problems K 100RS -90. Empty Re: Starting problems K 100RS -90. on Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:19 pm

Crazy Frog

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@92KK 84WW Olaf wrote:The plug into the unit under the seat might be a suspect. The fact that you changed the battery means this was disturbed. The plug connector into this unit can cause this problem, been there with the exact same problem.
I have to second 92KK.
Remove the plug from the EFI computer, clean it and then try again.
Check this page to find a complete troubleshooting guide.
Your cylinders may be full of gas and when this happen, I remove the park plugs and burn the gas with a propane torch. (Just don't keep your face in front of the spark plugs holes)


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13Back to top Go down   Starting problems K 100RS -90. Empty Re: Starting problems K 100RS -90. on Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:21 pm

RicK G

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Try some fresh fuel. I have had fuel go rotten in 10 weeks of sitting and when it goes off you can use it in a fire extinguisher to put fires out.  Fuel with a percentage of ethanol will go off very quickly and it does not always have that really bad smell.


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