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1Back to top Go down   bearing rumble Empty bearing rumble Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:57 pm

Beamer

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Hi, I'm in need of a bit of advice.

I use the K75 as everyday transport and recently I have been feeling a slight vibration in the right-hand foot-peg. It's light for the moment and intermittent but feels like a worn bearing.

I'm trying to pin it down a bit as to where the problem lies. I want to catch this before it becomes a bigger problem and keeps me off work waiting for parts or similar.

Now, I have a spare g/box and final drive which was donated to me by an acquaintance. He says he removed it from a working bike and it was in good working condition. I don't know his competence level and how to read that comment but it's a guide that it is not scrap.

I just pulled the final drive unit off the bike and there was nothing suspicious in the oil and and it feels smooth moving it by hand. There is very little backlash in the bevel gears. Turning the drive shaft by hand with the g/box in neutral also feels fine. However, I'm not sure whether  the problem will show up under no load, since it is only a light vibration on the road.

My guess is that it is a gearbox bearing, though swapping the box seems like quite a lot of work. I may recondition the spare box in advance so I have a known good replacement.

any suggestions?

Thanks.

    

2Back to top Go down   bearing rumble Empty Re: bearing rumble Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:33 pm

92KK 84WW Olaf

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Well since you are in Cork.....

My final drive did that not so long ago and first off I had to deduce where the rumble was. As in was it at engine speed or wheel speed. Eventually sussed out it was wheel speed which means it can only be coming after the gear box and must be somewhere in gearbox output or the final drive. Some I did in neutral downhill to feel what was happening.

Mine was in the final drive and the failing bearing could not be felt.

Since you have a spare final drive I would swap it and see what happens. Only takes a few minutes. Odds are it's the big bearing in the final drive and if neglected will bugger it up as you rightly say. Unfortunately in early stages you won't feel any movement, leave it and its big trouble. New bearing and mine was sorted.

If you diy it that's ok, if not Jim Ellis will do it for you. If swapping the final drives sorts it then keep your € in your pocket
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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
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1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 61,190 miles

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1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
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3Back to top Go down   bearing rumble Empty Re: bearing rumble Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:18 am

Dai

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Go check the simple bit first - pull the alternator and check that the monkey nuts (rubber buffers) are still in good condition. It should take you about half-an-hour from start to finish.


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4Back to top Go down   bearing rumble Empty Re: bearing rumble Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:05 am

AL-58

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I had that happen years ago, just felt the rumble through my foot, mostly on the over-run decelerating off throttle.  In my case it was the gearbox output shaft bearing.  The easy way to check and be sure was to pull the rear end and swingarm to get to the output shaft, you could feel the roughness in the bearing when turning it by hand.

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5Back to top Go down   bearing rumble Empty Re: bearing rumble Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:23 am

92KK 84WW Olaf

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If you have swapped the final drive and get no improvement that's the other place to look.

Not sure how easy or difficult that job is but expect it means opening the gearbox.


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 48,061 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 61,190 miles

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

6Back to top Go down   bearing rumble Empty Re: bearing rumble Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:13 am

Beamer

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Thanks for the suggestions .

The spare FD turned out to have a lot of back lash and was ruff as nutts. Not worth putting on.

Had the alternator off a while back and all is OK.

My gut feeling is that it's a gearbox bearing. There was a small amount of metal filings on the drain plug when I did an oil change as well. I may recondition my spare g/box so that I have one good one ready to drop in.

    

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