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1Back to top Go down    Death Wobbles on a Harley on Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:03 am

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Poor bloke.... But ya gotta laugh.


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2Back to top Go down    Re: Death Wobbles on a Harley on Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:24 am

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Hey This is a motorcycle forum but I suppose Farm accidents are on the rise so we should take it deriously lol!


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3Back to top Go down    Re: Death Wobbles on a Harley on Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:47 am

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Now there's an advertisement for wearing protection....ouch!


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4Back to top Go down    Re: Death Wobbles on a Harley on Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:38 am

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Don't laugh. I had a lock to lock real tankslapper on my K75RT once. Fortunately it only lasted 7 or 8 cycles but any longer and I probably would've gone down pretty hard.

(I had to change my armor after that one.)


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5Back to top Go down    Re: Death Wobbles on a Harley on Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:07 pm

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(I had to change my armor after that one.)

Oh brother I can only imagine


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6Back to top Go down    Re: Death Wobbles on a Harley on Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:51 pm

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I have seen that video recently and it was taken from a car.....the car driver had been travelling near it for quite a few miles and had observed the Harley was shaking once it went faster. It's a real eye opener to act if you find something happening and as said it's a real advert for ATGATT if ever there was one.

I did wonder as to cause and would have put load imbalance and tyres and tyre pressures very high on the list followed by shocks. But above all never ignore a tendency to shake.

I have never forgotten a tankslapper many years ago, it didn't take me off but scary is an understatement.


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7Back to top Go down    Re: Death Wobbles on a Harley on Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:59 pm

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I got into a pretty serious death wobble on my '78 GL1000 a couple months back...come to find out, the rear Comstar wheel had a bolt loosen up on me, letting the wheel flop all around. Luckily I didn't put the bike down, just had to change my britches.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BSHmPOkg8gX/?taken-by=propav8r

    

8Back to top Go down    Re: Death Wobbles on a Harley on Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:40 pm

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Ugghh not nice to watch at all - don't wish that kind of thing on any biker, not even Hardly riders. Bet he'll never forget that road rash though and might think twice about how cool it is to ride in a tee shirt.


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9Back to top Go down    Re: Death Wobbles on a Harley on Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:20 pm

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A lot to be said for fitting trainer wheels on Hardleys.

    

10Back to top Go down    Re: Death Wobbles on a Harley on Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:52 pm

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Like this


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11Back to top Go down    Re: Death Wobbles on a Harley on Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:15 pm

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Check out the surface on that road! affraid

Check out his shoulder grinding away on that road! affraid affraid


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12Back to top Go down    Re: Death Wobbles on a Harley on Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:19 pm

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@RicK G wrote:Like this
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I like this one better..... What a Face


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13Back to top Go down    Re: Death Wobbles on a Harley on Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:40 pm

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14Back to top Go down    Safety gear on Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:09 am

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I have noticed up here in sunny QLd a lot of HD riders wear thongs shorts and singlets, but a bit cooler of late and I spotted a "bro" with tshirt "muscle type" as they are warmer, shorts and socks with crocs. Laugh I nearly fell off my K.


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15Back to top Go down    Re: Death Wobbles on a Harley on Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:21 am

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@RicK G wrote:Hey This is a motorcycle forum but I suppose Farm accidents are on the rise so we should take it deriously lol!

I heard a lot of jokes about bits falling off Harley bikes and being left on the road, but this one is about bits of Harley riders being left on the road.

I personally cannot think of anything worse to happen that that kind of road rash and I have seen some horrific photos of shredded thighs, mangled hands, feet, missing toes and fingers that would put you off for life. On the other hand some of us remember Barry Sheene's 180moh crash.....amazing what gear can do to reduce or prevent injuries.

I guess if the Harley rider had been wearing all the gear only part hurting would be his wallet to replace the bike gear.


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16Back to top Go down    Re: Death Wobbles on a Harley on Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:01 am

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Ive had a little look around the net about that poor bloke and what I found out is that that guy was in a very bad way from his injuries particularly to his face. Also, the HD Death Wobble is a very well documented problem and Harley Davidson has been confronted with quite a few law suites claiming damages for personal injury.


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17Back to top Go down    Re: Death Wobbles on a Harley on Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:03 pm

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When I worked for Seaside MC in Ballina NSW (an H-D shop with a BMW problem, said the owner) we fitted these to many big motors...

Glide-Pro Stabiliser


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18Back to top Go down    Re: Death Wobbles on a Harley on Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:14 pm

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Not great when ya gotta fit a steering stabilizer to what's 'supposed' to be a quality machine.


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19Back to top Go down    Re: Death Wobbles on a Harley on Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:21 pm

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I've ridden my share of Harley's (never owned one and likely never will) and I think that the problem doesn't necessarily lie with the equipment. I am continually amazed at the mind set that a lot of the riders seem to have. There have been four motorcycle fatalities in my area this year. Only one wasn't on a Harley ridden by a guy north of 40. As a group of riders they seem to gravitate toward riding practices that aren't conducive to their good health and well being. That might be a numbers thing in that you see a shit ton of Harleys around here versus BMW's but the one BMW that I saw go by this morning was ridden by someone in full gear with a full face helmet on. How much swagger could you pull off after a crash like the one above?


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20Back to top Go down    Re: Death Wobbles on a Harley on Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:00 am

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My impression is that most Hardley riders are "Lifestylers" who don't appreciate how dangerous two wheels can be. Their first crash is usually their last one as well.

Around here they will usually leather up in the cooler months, but in the summer heat they would ride naked if the law allowed. It's their women that make me cringe. Daisy dukes, tube tops and sandals don't offer much more protection than their tattoos in a drop at 65 mph.

Just wondering, is the vulnerable feeling a lot of them must get from riding without gear the reason why so many of them never get above 25mph?


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21Back to top Go down    Re: Death Wobbles on a Harley on Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:43 pm

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No it's because their brains will get sucked out of .............. Oh forget it.


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22Back to top Go down    Re: Death Wobbles on a Harley on Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:39 pm

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I've ridden just two Harleys in my entire life - a '76 Roadster and I'm dammed if I can remember what the other one was (that's how much of an impression it made). In both cases, in under two miles I'd beaten the sh!t out of the footpegs and exhaust systems, not because I was being stupid but - well, I guess I was being stupid really. I stupidly expected them to handle at least as well as some of the mid-Seventies/early-Eighties Japanese bikes. Nope.

As for riding gear; I've walked away from two 55mph crashes but my best mate went one better this February and walked away from a 60mph crash with just a broken finger tip (SMIDSY). In all three cases our riding gear was comprehensively trashed but we weren't. That video made me cringe - badly.


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23Back to top Go down    Re: Death Wobbles on a Harley on Sat Aug 05, 2017 8:28 am

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Nah, he would have been okay - was wearing a bandanna and muscle shirt.

Begs the question: how to stop the wobbles (if you have the presence of mind to deal with it) ... accelerate or brake (back / front wheel or both)?

The local vermin would have had a field day in the wee hours of the night - lots of tidbits to nibble on.

Made my arse picker in sympathy

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24Back to top Go down    Re: Death Wobbles on a Harley on Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:52 am

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@GF Wollongong wrote:Begs the question: how to stop the wobbles (if you have the presence of mind to deal with it) ... accelerate or brake (back / front wheel or both)?
To stop the wobbles, duck down until you are resting your upper body on the tank. Hard to do with Harley ape-hangers.Interesting study by Dunlop in the seventies below.



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25Back to top Go down    Re: Death Wobbles on a Harley on Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:53 pm

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Thanks Rob very interesting and explains a lot of things I encountered on various bikes in early seventies. However I find it a bit weird that I have never had the same problem with my top boxed and panniered K75 with any of the various tyres. And I am pretty light which should exaggerate the problem.
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26Back to top Go down    Re: Death Wobbles on a Harley on Thu Aug 10, 2017 2:21 pm

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First, one should keep their hands on the handlebars always. Especially on that part of I-80. If you don't this can happen. My K-100 tries to wobble there too. That section of I-80 has a horrible road surface, just a few more exits down is A&S BMW, BTW.


H*rl*ey-D*v**ns are not inherently unstable in stock form, I have three of them (but 4 BMW's) Not diminishing BMW at all, but they aren't as bad as one would think watching Harley riders ride their bikes poorly. Harley's are O.K., it's the fan club that has the problems.


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27Back to top Go down    Re: Death Wobbles on a Harley on Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:29 am

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Rob's video made me grin. I noted that all of the Japanese bikes in the video had well-founded reputations for not being the best handling in the bike shed.


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28Back to top Go down    Re: Death Wobbles on a Harley on Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:09 am

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Thanks for the video... interesting

I thought the riders were pretty brave. Some of the wobbling at speed (towards the end) got quite severe.

I wonder what you do if you get the wobbles going flat out whilst lying on the tank?
- Probably see the presenter in the coat and tie with the comb over saying: "If you don't go over 70 miles an hour you wont get in this situation." Before coming off and having some smart arse post it online.

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29Back to top Go down    Re: Death Wobbles on a Harley on Tue Aug 22, 2017 5:49 pm

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@Garyk100 wrote:I have noticed up here in sunny QLd a lot of HD riders wear thongs shorts and singlets, but a bit cooler of late and I spotted a "bro" with tshirt "muscle type" as they are warmer, shorts and socks with crocs. Laugh I nearly fell off my K.
THONGS????? you were looking a little closely SmileThongs in the UK are Knickers(well dental floss)

or are they Aus for FLIP FLOPS?

    

30Back to top Go down    Death Wobbles on a Harley on Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:38 am

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THONGS!!!!!! That's Aussie for those things we wear on our feet. I believe our Kiwi mates call them JANGLES!! someone will correct me soon. Tom


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31Back to top Go down    Thongs on Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:21 am

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Flip flops hah thats what my mum calls them, but then she is Welsh, no really it gets that hot up here .......... still on the subject of Hogs, was chatting to a guy at a rally years ago and the subject got onto Harley's and I am not a big fan so I voiced my opinion, we had a few drinks and chatted for a while, nice bloke, I had a GPZ11 at the time and thought he had a jap bike with a cover on, as I was leaving he said guess what's under the cover, yep it was a Harley, I apologised for my remarks, his reply was "that's why I cover it up or the only people who come and talk to me are Harley wankers" his words not mine.


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