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1Back to top Go down    Headlight assembly removal on Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:24 am

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Need help! How to remove headlight assembly without removing front RT fairing? I cant find that topic on our portal. Thanks

    

2Back to top Go down    Re: Headlight assembly removal on Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:02 am

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I'm afraid you have no choice. I have to change mine because a gravel broke it the glass and I can't figure how the lamp can be removed without removing the front fairing.
Not a long nor complex job.

    

3Back to top Go down    Re: Headlight assembly removal on Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:25 am

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Unfortunately Nino it's off with the fairing, no choice.


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4Back to top Go down    Re: Headlight assembly removal on Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:33 pm

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What are you trying to accomplish?

If you just need to replace the glass then that can be done without removing the fairing.

If you want to remove the reflector assembly then you pretty much have to take the fairing off.


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5Back to top Go down    Re: Headlight assembly removal on Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:24 pm

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Last week I took the headlamp assembly out of my solo RS without taking the fairing off so I would expect that it's possible with an RT.....or am I missing something?

The only awkward bit is getting to the Phillips screw at the bottom centre of the assembly and, some years ago, I replaced that screw with a M5 stud. This means that, on reassembly, the plastic frame can easily be located on the stud and a M5 nut, held in a socket with grease, on a short extension can be fed onto the stud.

Oh, by the way, I counted 32 screws and nuts that had to removed to get the headlamp out.

Good luck,
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6Back to top Go down    Re: Headlight assembly removal on Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:18 pm

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While trying to change bulb it fell inside headlight. I didnt know how to take i out so only solution was to remove headlight an get bulb.
Finally, operation od digging bulb was succesfull with peace of wire. Bulb went out before start disasembling fairing, headlight, brackets etc.
Luck follows stupid obviously.
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7Back to top Go down    Re: Headlight assembly removal on Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:30 pm

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@duck wrote:

If you just need to replace the glass then that can be done without removing the fairing.
That's precisely what I was hoping that someone says... cheers
Did you experiment this?
I have a broken glass on my K1100LT, but the reflector's fine. And another dismantled fairing sits in the attic, so it's easy to access the headlamp.
How is the glass fixed on the reflector? Glue? Mastic?

    

8Back to top Go down    Re: Headlight assembly removal on Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:57 pm

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@jbt wrote: How is the glass fixed on the reflector? Glue? Mastic?



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9Back to top Go down    Re: Headlight assembly removal on Thu Sep 28, 2017 3:03 pm

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And a big fat rubber o-ring which is most likely partly perished by now. If you're pulling the glass off then I'd advise getting a new o-ring to retain the waterproofing.


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10Back to top Go down    Re: Headlight assembly removal on Thu Sep 28, 2017 3:04 pm

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Thanks! I'll try to change the glass this week end.

    

11Back to top Go down    Re: Headlight assembly removal on Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:36 am

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@jbt wrote:
@duck wrote:

If you just need to replace the glass then that can be done without removing the fairing.
That's precisely what I was hoping that someone says... cheers
Did you experiment this?
I have a broken glass on my K1100LT, but the reflector's fine. And another dismantled fairing sits in the attic, so it's easy to access the headlamp.
How is the glass fixed on the reflector? Glue? Mastic?

I've taken the "square" glass out on three K bikes without removing the fairing: K75RT, K1100RS and K11000LT.

As mentioned, the bottom screw in the middle is tough to get at but it can be done.

The square rubber ring will look old and dried out but if you buy a new one it will look just the same. (Been there, done that.)


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12Back to top Go down    Re: Headlight assembly removal on Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:50 am

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I acquired a brand new reflector some time back, intending to put in the RT. They get contaminated over time and brand new old stock is the way to go.

The clips are the same as Peugeot use so found I had a stock of them and that I can also remove the glass on it AND change the reflectors without removing the headlights.

So this thread seems to be saying I can get the glass off the RT without removingthefront/main fairing. I can see how I can pop the clips to do this.BUT in doing this a piece of advice. Use duck tape across the glass onto the fairing........so the glass doesn't just fall out.

Now can I remove the reflector at this point also....? [I would have the screen off and the two cross panels so plenty of accessed to the rear of the headlight.


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13Back to top Go down    Headlight bulb removal... on Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:34 pm

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My Clymer manual went into great detail how the fairing and plastic pieces (the 'dashboard' so to speak) all have to be removed in order to change the bulb - balderdash I say! I was able to work from the front of the bike by feel and successfully removed the wiring, rubber boot, retainer ring and bulb without looking (too often, lol!).

All to replace it with an H4 LED bulb/fan assembly that I bought off fleaBay! What a great change too - full daylight spectrum, like HID without the draw/heat/expense. I had to cut quite a bit off the 'boot' but it still makes a bit of a decent seal. $40 USD for the pair

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Auxbeam-120W-12000LM-H4-9003-HB2-CREE-LED-Headlight-Bulbs-Conversion-Kit-6000K/152508984559?_trkparms=ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140212121249%26meid%3D1fe9e0e1b0754152bc8997c8bcdad4a4%26pid%3D100102%26&_trksid=p3693.c100102.m2452

And it's BRIGHT! 'Cause you gotta be seen!! Now the headlight matches the LED driving lights on my forks Smile

Ace





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14Back to top Go down    Re: Headlight assembly removal on Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:47 am

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@Ace Handler wrote:
And it's BRIGHT! 'Cause you gotta be seen!!
Well, beware of this belief...it' mainly wrong.
Sadly, the perception of a targets depends mainly of the viewer, not of the target.
Of course, if you're riding at night with no lamp, your visibility is not good and you should switch your light on to improve it.
But apart from that, attention of the viewer is fundamental: if he doesn't expect to see you, even a full ramp of Baja lights won't trigger its attention.
I've worked some years as a customs motorcycle officer. In some cases, I learned that event a "police decorated" bike, with the front light on with to blue flashing lamps and 120dB sirens turned on, in daylight, is not perceived at all by a driver. RIP, fellow...
There's also a paradox: If you want to be seen, you must be visible, but if you're too bright, nobody will watch you to avoid dazzling. I sometimes see motorcycle with such a powerful front light that you can't even see if the turning signals are on - and anway you can't spot it.

The only solution is to ride as if nobody was expecting you.

    

15Back to top Go down    Re: Headlight assembly removal on Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:48 am

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@jbt wrote:
@Ace Handler wrote:
And it's BRIGHT! 'Cause you gotta be seen!!
Well, beware of this belief...it' mainly wrong.
Sadly, the perception of a targets depends mainly of the viewer, not of the target.
Of course, if you're riding at night with no lamp, your visibility is not good and you should switch your light on to improve it.
But apart from that, attention of the viewer is fundamental: if he doesn't expect to see you, even a full ramp of Baja lights won't trigger its attention.
I've worked some years as a customs motorcycle officer. In some cases, I learned that event a "police decorated" bike, with the front light on with to blue flashing lamps and 120dB sirens turned on, in daylight, is not perceived at all by a driver. RIP, fellow...
There's also a paradox: If you want to be seen, you must be visible, but if you're too bright, nobody will watch you to avoid dazzling. I sometimes see motorcycles with such a powerful front light that you can't even see if the turning signals are on - and anway you can't spot it.

The only solution is to ride as if nobody was expecting you.

    

16Back to top Go down    Re: Headlight assembly removal on Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:47 am

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@jbt wrote:
@Ace Handler wrote:
And it's BRIGHT! 'Cause you gotta be seen!!
Well, beware of this belief...it' mainly wrong.
Sadly, the perception of a targets depends mainly of the viewer, not of the target.
Of course, if you're riding at night with no lamp, your visibility is not good and you should switch your light on to improve it.
But apart from that, attention of the viewer is fundamental: if he doesn't expect to see you, even a full ramp of Baja lights won't trigger its attention.
I've worked some years as a customs motorcycle officer. In some cases, I learned that event a "police decorated" bike, with the front light on with to blue flashing lamps and 120dB sirens turned on, in daylight, is not perceived at all by a driver. RIP, fellow...
There's also a paradox: If you want to be seen, you must be visible, but if you're too bright, nobody will watch you to avoid dazzling. I sometimes see motorcycle with such a powerful front light that you can't even see if the turning signals are on - and anway you can't spot it.

The only solution is to ride as if nobody was expecting you.
You make some very valid points.

A lot of wildlife here where I live, the headlight illuminates the distance, the driving lights illuminate the sides of the road (ditches).

In 45 years of riding the only mishap I suffered was a fellow turning left in front of me. He later said he didn't see me. Don't think I'll hear that again.

However, we now have the more recent phenomenon of cellphone distraction - takes 'didn't see you' to 'won't see you'! That is very hard to plan for.... Shocked

ALL EYES OPEN - Ace


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