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1Back to top Go down   Norway - the good and the bad Empty Norway - the good and the bad on Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:18 am

indian036

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Not really a ride, but Iíve just spent 2 weeks campervanning with the French family. Two camper vans, one for Lynette and I and one for the daughter, son in law and 3 kids.†

The good:
Spent our time mostly in fjord country, the wilder and steeper parts in the South of our range and the softer and greener parts further North. We didnít go as far as the Arctic circle, sadly, but I have quite brightly lit photos of the landscape at 11:45pm.†
The roads, particularly in the wilder parts were steep and winding, and reminiscent to me of pictures of Stelvio Pass. Lots of very narrow roads with frequent passing points. People in both directions were courteous and helpful in letting people pass, with friendly waves of acknowledgement.†
We saw lots and lots of bikes. Not many Ks, but lots of BMWs with R1200GS being prominent, and not a few K1600s. Funny, but we saw very few Harleys and their clones until we got to the softer, less tight parts. I did see a Spanish registered K100RS SE at one of our overnights. A brief chat with the owner - very brief because of his lack of English and my lack of Spanish.†
English was almost universal, even though many started with Norwegian until they realised I was English monolingual. For a few, basic but most were very good.†
We went to Hell and back, though it wasnít frozen over. Itís about half an hour East of Trondheim.†

The bad:
Iíd hoped to be able to catch up with the venerable Inge K, but the family women werenít up for a deviation to Fredrikstad. Their information on our actual itinerary came too late for me to be able to take up his offer of a meeting in HÝnefoss.†Sad
All the fault at our end, none at Ingeís end.†

I really have to come to Europe some time, perhaps in advance of a family visit, to do some bike time, catching up with people and also to ride some roads Iíve only done on four wheels.†

Bill


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1985 K100RT †VIN 0028991† My original Very Happy † (Historic rego)
1985 K100RT †VIN 0029036† BOB the Blue Old Bike† (Historic rego)
1990 K100LT †VIN 0190452† Work in progress
1984 K100RT† VIN 0023022† Work needing lots of progress

1986 K100RT† VIN 0090542† Work needing lots and lots of progress
1993 K1100LT† VIN 0183046† Work in progress
1993 K75S †VIN 0213045† Newest toy, slightly non-original
    

2Back to top Go down   Norway - the good and the bad Empty Re: Norway - the good and the bad on Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:33 am

TacKler

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Interested to hear more Bill, as it is on my bucket list† Cool

I believe it is what we would consider, very expensive.


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3Back to top Go down   Norway - the good and the bad Empty Re: Norway - the good and the bad on Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:43 am

Dai

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Tackler: believe it. The one and only time I've been to Norway (okay, so it was back in the 70s!), a pint of beer cost 30p at home and £1.25p in Norway/Sweden. Needless to say, we didn't do much drinking Shocked


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TacKler

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I don't doubt that Dai.††

A bloke I work with was doing the cruise ship thing last year and a beer in a pub cost him $22.† That's four to five times the cost of one here.††

I'll buy my whisky in France on the way through and take teabags with me.† Bloody hell that expensive.† I best start saving now.


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5Back to top Go down   Norway - the good and the bad Empty Re: Norway - the good and the bad on Sun Jul 29, 2018 8:03 am

indian036

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Cost was a bit of a mix. Even the locals said that alcohol is expensive, but we mostly drank Aussie wine which was very reasonable, and I was familiar with the brands. We didnít go to any pubs or equivalents.†
Fuel (diesel) was more expensive than Luxembourg, but the taxes there are low, so there isnít a fuel outlet in any neighboring country anywhere near the Luxembourg border. Inside Luxembourg, say at Frisange, there are multiple fuel outlets just inside the border. I didnít do careful comparisons, but not drastically different to the rest of Europe in my experience.†
We only had one meal at a sort of outdoor BBQ outlet at FlŚm, which wasnít too unreasonable. No conventional restaurants.†
Virtually all our meals were in-house, so food was from the supermarket. A Norwegian couple we met in Port Macquarie recently said that they found supermarket prices similar to home. It seemed to me that wasnít too far off the mark, but that was mainly Lynetteís and Nikkiís realm.
Under those circumstances we found it pretty OK. Camper hire was about 27,500NOK for the 2 weeks, but Iíve never done it before and have no basis for comparison. Campgrounds where we used them (about 1 night in 3, the rest in the wild) were about 150NOK a night, plus electricity if used. Some had pay showers, 5 or 10K, some free. Staying in hotels and eating in restaurants might put me off, but I wouldnít be afraid to do it again outside that scenario, though in winter it might be a different kettle of fish.

Bill


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1985 K100RT †VIN 0028991† My original Very Happy † (Historic rego)
1985 K100RT †VIN 0029036† BOB the Blue Old Bike† (Historic rego)
1990 K100LT †VIN 0190452† Work in progress
1984 K100RT† VIN 0023022† Work needing lots of progress

1986 K100RT† VIN 0090542† Work needing lots and lots of progress
1993 K1100LT† VIN 0183046† Work in progress
1993 K75S †VIN 0213045† Newest toy, slightly non-original
    

6Back to top Go down   Norway - the good and the bad Empty Re: Norway - the good and the bad on Sun Jul 29, 2018 8:07 am

indian036

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PS. The light beer in the supermarket (Tuborg) was 4.5%.†affraid


Not like some Belgian beer Iíve seen at 13.5%.† affraid affraid


Bill


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1985 K100RT †VIN 0028991† My original Very Happy † (Historic rego)
1985 K100RT †VIN 0029036† BOB the Blue Old Bike† (Historic rego)
1990 K100LT †VIN 0190452† Work in progress
1984 K100RT† VIN 0023022† Work needing lots of progress

1986 K100RT† VIN 0090542† Work needing lots and lots of progress
1993 K1100LT† VIN 0183046† Work in progress
1993 K75S †VIN 0213045† Newest toy, slightly non-original
    

7Back to top Go down   Norway - the good and the bad Empty Re: Norway - the good and the bad on Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:14 am

Crazy Frog

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@indian036 wrote:Fuel (diesel) was more expensive than Luxembourg, but the taxes there are low, so there isnít a fuel outlet in any neighboring country anywhere near the Luxembourg border. Inside Luxembourg, say at Frisange, there are multiple fuel outlets just inside the border.
I know very well Frisange. This is where I shop when I am in Metz(France)
As you say, you don't find a lot of gas stations on the French side near the Luxembourg border. They all went out of business. You cross the open border and you save big time.

Here are some examples:
Prices in France: Gas: Ä1.54/l, cigarettes: Ä80 a cartoon, Captain Morgan rum: Ä20
Prices in Luxembourg: Gas: Ä1.26/l, cigarettes: Ä40 a cartoon, Captain Morgan rum: Ä8

Fill up in Luxembourg (40 liters), buy one cartoon of cigarettes an one bottle of rum and you save yourself close to Ä65 (almost $100).


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Inge is a great host. I was lucky to meet him a few years ago.

Note: the Guinness that we brought from Dublin. It was not my first trip to Norway so we were well aware of the prices

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9Back to top Go down   Norway - the good and the bad Empty Re: Norway - the good and the bad on Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:46 am

indian036

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@Crazy Frog wrote:I know very well Frisange. This is where I shop when I am in Metz(France)
As you say, you don't find a lot of gas stations on the French side near the Luxembourg border. They all went out of business. You cross the open border and you save big time.
I went past Frisange today, to fill up the Nissan at the Total after I moved the Cortina to get to the Torana. (Aussie in-joke the last bit.)

I checked the gas stations as I went past. Aral, Shell, Esso, Gulf, Total, Texaco and Goedert - all within the last 500 metres or so before the border. I think the next I've seen is at Thionville, half an hour into France.

Bill


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1985 K100RT †VIN 0028991† My original Very Happy † (Historic rego)
1985 K100RT †VIN 0029036† BOB the Blue Old Bike† (Historic rego)
1990 K100LT †VIN 0190452† Work in progress
1984 K100RT† VIN 0023022† Work needing lots of progress

1986 K100RT† VIN 0090542† Work needing lots and lots of progress
1993 K1100LT† VIN 0183046† Work in progress
1993 K75S †VIN 0213045† Newest toy, slightly non-original
    

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