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1Back to top Go down   Another spline lube question Thanks  Empty Another spline lube question Thanks on Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:20 am

Heresy23

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Hi, so I gotta change my rear tire in the next day or so and I might as well do the rear splines while I have the rim off....I’ve been reading all over this forum and the internet about lubes and greases and still need advice. Should I just use the Honda m-77 product (which is still a lot of money for me to spend at 16$ at this moment )? Eventually I would rather use the Loctite moly paste but I need the cheapest option without using the completely wrong thing. I’ve seen a lot of cheap products from “liqui moly” but I haven’t found a lot of info about using their products for spline lubes....at least with the Honda product I can drive 10 min to the Honda house and buy it, I’d rather lube the final drive splines while I’m changing the tire then NOT lube .
Thanks
Or I’d rather just go to Napa or pep boys... tubes are like 6$...but I think the moly content is less then 10%...

    

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Point-Seven-five

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How much is your peace of mind worth?  Get the Honda stuff and ride worry free.


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Present:
1994 K75RT
1991 K100RS
1988 K100RS SE

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1994 BMW K75S
1992 BMW K100RS
1982 Honda FT500
1979 Honda XR185
1977 Honda XL125
1974 Honda XL125
1972 OSSA Pioneer 250
1968 Kawasaki 175
    

3Back to top Go down   Another spline lube question Thanks  Empty Re: Another spline lube question Thanks on Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:01 pm

Heresy23

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Ok , well I was getting the impression from some posts that the new Honda m77 wasent very good compared to m60 ...and I see people mixing greases and Pastes...etc.. I just want peace of mind so yeah.  Ok I’ll go get the m77   Also I have a tube of graphite powder ,my grandpa thinks I should mix it in ? Should I?  Thanks again 
Oh one more thing.  I’m gonna follow the guides (never did this ) but how much should I put on ? I didn’t really see a lot of info about the amount to put on each part ?
@Point-Seven-five wrote:How much is your peace of mind worth?  Get the Honda stuff and ride worry free.


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4Back to top Go down   Another spline lube question Thanks  Empty Re: Another spline lube question Thanks on Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:36 pm

brickrider2

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I believe the operative term is apply "sparingly."  I use a tooth brush to easily coat the splines completely, all the while being mindful that slathering a lot of lube in there can be a problem down the road.  If moly grease migrates to the clutch plate you most certainly have a problem.


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volador

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Dr. L. Duck Hubbard explains: Splientology   http://www.motobrick.com/index.php/topic,490.0.html

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Use the BMW recommend Staburags NBU 30 PTM  a 30gm container will last a long time

https://www.ebay.com/itm/30g-BMW-K100-K75-K-100-75-R-80-Staburags-NBU-30-PTM-spline-lube-assembly-grease/273872404727?hash=item3fc41140f7:g:JrUAAMXQVs1Rl4q8

I use a acid brush and cut half the bristle length off and work the grease into the spline channels.

As been said only a light coat required on all mating surfaces- Tranny Output shaft splines, Drive Shaft and Final Drive

Honda Moly needs to be mixed 50/50 with something like Wurth 3000 for proper bonding characteristics

Honda M-77 mixed with graphite will only be flung off those surfaces prematurely


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duck

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Or you can directly get a PDF of it at this link without having to go to that other site:

http://bit.ly/Splientology


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Heresy23

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Ok, well I’m not kidding when I say that after buying the Honda m77 and a tire and a few others I have no money for the Wurth right now to mix the m77 with...will I be ok with only the Honda moly paste for now? Or should I go to pep boys and get the moly paste they have and mix the Honda moly with that for sticking purposes? I’m doing this all tommorow ...thanks for all the info ..
Oh and I’m only doing the rear splines since I’m doing a tire change


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brickrider2

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Heresy23,  You're making this harder than it needs to be.  I've used pure Honda 60 (?) moly grease for DECADES and have had no problems whatsoever.  I ride in a dry climate, for the most part.  That makes fighting corrosion and such child's play.  Your riding environment may be different.  Nevertheless, you can expect a good many miles from service to service if you use a decent quality moly grease such as has been mentioned. I suggest you avoid loading more moly powder into moly grease of any brand, as you need the stickiness of what is offered by manufactures for the stuff to stay where you need it - on the splines.  Forget about mixing greases.  Honda's moly grease will do the job.  No worries.


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9Back to top Go down   Another spline lube question Thanks  Empty Re: Another spline lube question Thanks on Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:09 am

Point-Seven-five

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@brickrider2 wrote:Heresy23,  You're making this harder than it needs to be.  I've used pure Honda 60 (?) moly grease for DECADES and have had no problems whatsoever.  I ride in a dry climate, for the most part.  That makes fighting corrosion and such child's play.  Your riding environment may be different.  Nevertheless, you can expect a good many miles from service to service if you use a decent quality moly grease such as has been mentioned. I suggest you avoid loading more moly powder into moly grease of any brand, as you need the stickiness of what is offered by manufactures for the stuff to stay where you need it - on the splines.  Forget about mixing greases.  Honda's moly grease will do the job.  No worries.
Brickrider, Thank you for saving me the time to type a response.


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Present:
1994 K75RT
1991 K100RS
1988 K100RS SE

Past:
1994 BMW K75S
1992 BMW K100RS
1982 Honda FT500
1979 Honda XR185
1977 Honda XL125
1974 Honda XL125
1972 OSSA Pioneer 250
1968 Kawasaki 175
    

10Back to top Go down   Another spline lube question Thanks  Empty spline care on Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:05 am

caveman

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Heresy23,
If i may add to this.....
IMO it is as important to make sure you clean your splines very carefully removing all contaminates if not more important than the type of lube you choose. Any dirt, debris,or iron oxide (rust) left on the splines will change any lube paste into a grinding compound.

    

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