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1Back to top Go down    wind solution on Sun May 27, 2012 6:19 pm

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Hello, I found wind solution, much better for higher speed on highway. I bought Arizona windshield (100 euro), replaced original RT screen and on the top of new one mounted MRA deflector. Lower position for city, higher for highway. It works very well, no air right in the face.

    

2Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Sun May 27, 2012 6:22 pm

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@nino wrote:Hello, I found wind solution, much better for higher speed on highway. I bought Arizona windshield (100 euro), replaced original RT screen and on the top of new one mounted MRA deflector. Lower position for city, higher for highway. It works very well, no air right in the face. (I am 190 cm tall)

    

3Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Sun May 27, 2012 7:21 pm

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4Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Sun May 27, 2012 7:54 pm

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looks good nino ...^5s


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5Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Sun May 27, 2012 8:05 pm

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Deflector in higher position

    

6Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Sun May 27, 2012 8:48 pm

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Good work, Nino!

On the picture it looks like you got the first generation fuel cap (with pushbutton).
It might be a idea to look for a later version, as the one you got did have problem with water ingress.


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7Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Sun May 27, 2012 10:08 pm

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@Inge K. wrote:Good work, Nino!

On the picture it looks like you got the first generation fuel cap (with pushbutton).
It might be a idea to look for a later version, as the one you got did have problem with water ingress.

Thanks Inge. Yes, thats first generation of tap. I have next generation, but didnt switch to because of the original key. Dont have any problem with water still.

    

8Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Mon May 28, 2012 12:16 am

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@nino wrote:I have next generation, but didnt switch to because of the original key.
Here is a "how to" switch your lock barrels, I`ll guess the internals is a bit different in your old model cap.


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9Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Mon May 28, 2012 12:35 am

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@Inge K. wrote:
@nino wrote:I have next generation, but didnt switch to because of the original key.
Here is a "how to" switch your lock barrels, I`ll guess the internals is a bit different in your old model cap.

Tnx Inge

    

10Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Mon May 28, 2012 2:49 am

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This is new windshield with deflector (I am practising sending pictures)

    

11Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Mon May 28, 2012 9:49 am

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Thanks Nino.

This small modification is great and it uses the fundamental of the electric windshield.

Air is flowing on both sides of the extension and the pressure is equalized. On the top of deflecting the wind, it should remove most of the buffering in the helmet.

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12Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Mon May 28, 2012 10:33 am

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Are you looking over the deflector or through it Nino?


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13Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Mon May 28, 2012 10:56 am

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88KE wrote:Are you looking over the deflector or through it Nino?

I am looking over the deflector in highest position. My problem on any bike is 190 cmm. This is good solution for taller riders. Few days ago drove from Dubrovnik to Zagreb 590 km without full face helmet, even smoke during the drive.

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14Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Mon May 28, 2012 11:04 am

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cool !!!

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15Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Mon May 28, 2012 8:27 pm

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@nino wrote:
88KE wrote:Are you looking over the deflector or through it Nino?

I am looking over the deflector in highest position. My problem on any bike is 190 cmm. This is good solution for taller riders. Few days ago drove from Dubrovnik to Zagreb 590 km without full face helmet, even smoke during the drive.

Cheers

With my 178 cm, I have no such problems. Back in 2003, when I just bought my bike, I installed the "Secdem" raised screen (source: www.motobins.co.uk). Unfortunately, it broke while bike was being transported from the Netherlands, so I replaced it with K 100 RT screen - couldn't get LT's. After a few hundred kms in quite a rainy and windy weather, I feel no need for getting again the raised one or, for that matter, even LT's...

    

16Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Mon May 28, 2012 9:08 pm

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@nino wrote:
88KE wrote:Are you looking over the deflector or through it Nino?

I am looking over the deflector in highest position. My problem on any bike is 190 cmm. This is good solution for taller riders. Few days ago drove from Dubrovnik to Zagreb 590 km without full face helmet, even smoke during the drive.

Cheers

With my 178 cm, I have no such problems. Back in 2003, when I just bought my bike, I installed the "Secdem" raised screen (source: www.motobins.co.uk). Unfortunately, it broke while bike was being transported from the Netherlands, so I replaced it with K 100 RT screen - couldn't get LT's. After a few hundred kms in quite a rainy and windy weather, I feel no need for getting again the raised one or, for that matter, even LT's...

Motobins is good source for raised screens. They have best prices, but post for screens is rather high

    

17Back to top Go down    Motorworks too on Mon May 28, 2012 9:27 pm

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@nino wrote:
@ffbikersa wrote:
@nino wrote:

I am looking over the deflector in highest position. My problem on any bike is 190 cmm. This is good solution for taller riders. Few days ago drove from Dubrovnik to Zagreb 590 km without full face helmet, even smoke during the drive.

Cheers

With my 178 cm, I have no such problems. Back in 2003, when I just bought my bike, I installed the "Secdem" raised screen (source: www.motobins.co.uk). Unfortunately, it broke while bike was being transported from the Netherlands, so I replaced it with K 100 RT screen - couldn't get LT's. After a few hundred kms in quite a rainy and windy weather, I feel no need for getting again the raised one or, for that matter, even LT's...

Motobins is good source for raised screens. They have best prices, but post for screens is rather high

Motorworks have cheaper raised screens, but not from Secdem. One should also look at German eBay, www.ebay.de

    

18Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Mon May 28, 2012 9:35 pm

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@ffbikersa wrote:
@nino wrote:
@ffbikersa wrote:

With my 178 cm, I have no such problems. Back in 2003, when I just bought my bike, I installed the "Secdem" raised screen (source: www.motobins.co.uk). Unfortunately, it broke while bike was being transported from the Netherlands, so I replaced it with K 100 RT screen - couldn't get LT's. After a few hundred kms in quite a rainy and windy weather, I feel no need for getting again the raised one or, for that matter, even LT's...

Motobins is good source for raised screens. They have best prices, but post for screens is rather high

Motorworks have cheaper raised screens, but not from Secdem. One should also look at German eBay, www.ebay.de[/quote[/url" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">]

Best offer for Arizona shield I found on [url=http://www.bikerteam24.de]www.bikerteam24.de, cca 95 Euro export price. They were fast and very kind

    

19Back to top Go down    Topcases too on Mon May 28, 2012 9:48 pm

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@ffbikersa wrote:
@nino wrote:

Motobins is good source for raised screens. They have best prices, but post for screens is rather high

Motorworks have cheaper raised screens, but not from Secdem. One should also look at German eBay, www.ebay.de[/quote]

Best offer for Arizona shield I found on www.bikerteam24.de, cca 95 Euro export price. They were fast and very kind

I see their prices for topcases and panniers is decent too. It's a pity they sell only Givi, and not Hepco & Becker and/or Krauser - these are more suited to match original BMWs, and K 100 bikes design in general.

    

20Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Mon May 28, 2012 9:50 pm

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@ffbikersa wrote:

Motorworks have cheaper raised screens, but not from Secdem. One should also look at German eBay, www.ebay.de[/quote]

Best offer for Arizona shield I found on www.bikerteam24.de, cca 95 Euro export price. They were fast and very kind

I see their prices for topcases and panniers is decent too. It's a pity they sell only Givi, and not Hepco & Becker and/or Krauser - these are more suited to match original BMWs, and K 100 bikes design in general.

Ask www.siebenrock.de, they have 50 ltr topcase to fit in original rack. The guy there speaks our language

    

21Back to top Go down    Siebenrock on Mon May 28, 2012 10:53 pm

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@nino wrote:

I see their prices for topcases and panniers is decent too. It's a pity they sell only Givi, and not Hepco & Becker and/or Krauser - these are more suited to match original BMWs, and K 100 bikes design in general.

Ask www.siebenrock.de, they have 50 ltr topcase to fit in original rack. The guy there speaks our language

Thanks, I know about Siebenrock (from them I got the 1000 ccm cylinder increase kit to increase my former R 80's), and I have no problem communicating in German, but their web site doesn't give the prices. http://www.bmwbayer.de/ gives 189 € for TK 50 topcase (with VAT; export price 159), but I would rather go for one of the all-black slightly smaller models from Hepco & Becker Junior range, 30, 40 or even 45 litres. Needs not to hold TWO helmets, just one is enough (my Nolan N 100 can't fit in either of the panniers), BMW's K 1100 topcase is simply ugly, and this from 50 litres looks disproportionately big to me.

    

22Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Mon May 28, 2012 10:58 pm

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Ask www.siebenrock.de, they have 50 ltr topcase to fit in original rack. The guy there speaks our language

Thanks, I know about Siebenrock (from them I got the 1000 ccm cylinder increase kit to increase my former R 80's), and I have no problem communicating in German, but their web site doesn't give the prices. http://www.bmwbayer.de/ gives 189 € for TK 50 topcase (with VAT; export price 159), but I would rather go for one of the all-black slightly smaller models from Hepco & Becker Junior range, 30, 40 or even 45 litres. Needs not to hold TWO helmets, just one is enough (my Nolan N 100 can't fit in either of the panniers), BMW's K 1100 topcase is simply ugly, and this from 50 litres looks disproportionately big to me.

It sits right in the rack. I ll send you a picture of mine. I like it

    

23Back to top Go down    Hepco & Becker Junior on Mon May 28, 2012 11:13 pm

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@nino wrote:

Thanks, I know about Siebenrock (from them I got the 1000 ccm cylinder increase kit to increase my former R 80's), and I have no problem communicating in German, but their web site doesn't give the prices. http://www.bmwbayer.de/ gives 189 € for TK 50 topcase (with VAT; export price 159), but I would rather go for one of the all-black slightly smaller models from Hepco & Becker Junior range, 30, 40 or even 45 litres. Needs not to hold TWO helmets, just one is enough (my Nolan N 100 can't fit in either of the panniers), BMW's K 1100 topcase is simply ugly, and this from 50 litres looks disproportionately big to me.

It sits right in the rack. I ll send you a picture of mine. I like it

I think it's visible in the pictures with your windscreen? But have a look at http://neu.hepco-becker.de/Web/Produkte/01_Gepaeck/01_Seitenkoffer/Junior_auswahl.php?language=1 - I think they look better on K 100 LT (degustibus non disputandum est...)

    

24Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Mon May 28, 2012 11:19 pm

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It sits right in the rack. I ll send you a picture of mine. I like it

I think it's visible in the pictures with your windscreen? But have a look at http://neu.hepco-becker.de/Web/Produkte/01_Gepaeck/01_Seitenkoffer/Junior_auswahl.php?language=1 - I think they look better on K 100 LT (degustibus non disputandum est...)

50 ltr with original tp look smaller. There is no air between bike and topcase, it sits just exactly.It was made just for K

    

25Back to top Go down    What about attching it? on Tue May 29, 2012 12:32 am

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@nino wrote:

I think it's visible in the pictures with your windscreen? But have a look at http://neu.hepco-becker.de/Web/Produkte/01_Gepaeck/01_Seitenkoffer/Junior_auswahl.php?language=1 - I think they look better on K 100 LT (degustibus non disputandum est...)

50 ltr with original tp look smaller. There is no air between bike and topcase, it sits just exactly.It was made just for K

What interests me - how do you install it on the bike? What happens with the original BMW's luggage rack, do you keep it or have to install another one? I saw some by Hepco & Becker which are much better suited for other sorts of luggage (tents etc) - see http://www.motorworks.co.uk/vlive/Shop/Parts.php?T=6&Q=%20LUA00053

    

26Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Tue May 29, 2012 12:40 am

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50 ltr with original tp look smaller. There is no air between bike and topcase, it sits just exactly.It was made just for K

What interests me - how do you install it on the bike? What happens with the original BMW's luggage rack, do you keep it or have to install another one? I saw some by Hepco & Becker which are much better suited for other sorts of luggage (tents etc) - see [url=http://www.motorworks.co.uk/vlive/Shop/Parts.php?T=6&Q=%20LUA00053
http://www.motorworks.co.uk/vlive/Shop/Parts.php?T=6&Q=%20LUA00053[/quote[/url]]

The system is the same like original bmw k 20 ltr topbox. Same rack, same way to connect. Bert recently found a link about it with a lot of pictures

    

27Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Tue May 10, 2016 2:30 am

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Has anyone found an MRA deflector that will mount on a K100RS stock windshield and reduce the buffeting/wind noise? The OEM deflector does not seem effective.
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28Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Tue May 10, 2016 4:02 am

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My wife's idea of a wind solution is usually to tell me to shuddap


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29Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Tue May 10, 2016 8:02 am

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Shep, I had a Secdem screen on RS. It was very good. Motorworks had it before, but they discontinued. I found some source from Netherland. Secdem is French company. Here is a link http://www.wema-import.nl/webshop/secdem-windschermen/secdem-windscherm-bmw-k100rs-k1100rs

    

30Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Tue May 10, 2016 8:12 am

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@nino wrote:Shep, I had a Secdem screen on RS. It was very good. Motorworks had it before, but they discontinued. I found some source from Netherland. Secdem is French company. Here is a link http://www.wema-import.nl/webshop/secdem-windschermen/secdem-windscherm-bmw-k100rs-k1100rs

Here is same item on Secdem site https://www.secdem.fr/en/catalogue-produit.php?reference=BB012HP

    

31Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Tue May 10, 2016 8:23 am

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@nino wrote:
@nino wrote:Shep, I had a Secdem screen on RS. It was very good. Motorworks had it before, but they discontinued. I found some source from Netherland. Secdem is French company. Here is a link http://www.wema-import.nl/webshop/secdem-windschermen/secdem-windscherm-bmw-k100rs-k1100rs

Here is same item on Secdem site https://www.secdem.fr/en/catalogue-produit.php?reference=BB012HP


Motobins sell it by better price. I never found aftermarket air deflector for RS.

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32Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Tue May 10, 2016 3:09 pm

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Any reports on the ones from Motorworks and search for part # FAA50566


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33Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Wed May 11, 2016 1:28 am

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@Shep wrote:Has anyone found an MRA deflector that will mount on a K100RS stock windshield and reduce the buffeting/wind noise? The OEM deflector does not seem effective.
Shep

http://laminarlip.com/bmw.php

I use this brand in dark tint on my Red RS.


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34Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Thu May 12, 2016 7:52 am

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I appreciate the input and have looked at all alternatives.
1. The Secdem from Moto-Bins is 46 cm high and requires drilling the fairing which I do not fancy. Price is 84 pds or 156 Canadian dollars plus shipping.
2. On the WEMA-IMORT site the Secdem is 49 cm high and is 123 Euros or 181 Canadian dollars plus shipping. I assume drilling is required.
3. On the Sedem site they list a 49 cm high screen with many different colours available and for a few dollars more you can have the screen height cut down from the 49 cm standard height. Cost is 130 Euros or 191 Canadian dollars. I assume drilling is required.
4. On the Motorworks site the screen is only 43.18 cm high. However I am not sure I like how it looks. It is only 47.66 pounds or 88.43 Canadian dollars plus shipping. Rosskko asked if anyone has used one and I would like to have their comments as well.
5. Finally I have looked at the Laminar Lip product and testimonials and think I may try one of these first. They are 84 US or 108 Canadian dollars plus shipping.

I am trying to eliminate the noise and buffeting when I am seated properly on the K100RS. If I tuck down behind the windscreen, I only hear the nice sound of the engine. When I stand up on the foot pegs I only hear the quiet stream of air moving around my helmet.
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35Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Thu May 12, 2016 7:56 am

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To TWB:

Did the Lamiar Lip reduce the buffeting and noise for you on your K100RS?
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36Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Thu May 12, 2016 9:06 am

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Alby, who frequents the site, made a new screen for his RS from the back of a PVC chair. Not sure if through necessity or experimentation, but they are a big lump of plastic and can probably be found on the side of the road making them cheap to play with.


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37Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Thu May 12, 2016 11:43 am

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I like the laminar lip. Until you add $75AUD postage. For a piece of plastic.


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38Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Fri May 13, 2016 3:56 pm

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Well I ordered a Laminar Lip today for 84 dollars US or approximately 108 Canadian dollars plus the dumb postage at 37 US or 47 Canadian dollars.
If I was close to the US border I could do what many do and have it shipped to an outlet at the American border and then go pick it up. Since I am 800 kms from the border this does not make any sense.
Oh well I hope this reduces the turbulence/buffeting for me?
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39Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Fri May 13, 2016 4:04 pm

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Did you remove the OEM wind deflector?
I asked the Laminar Lip folk and their reply was "removal of the present deflector is optional".
I would think you would remove it, wouldn't you?
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40Back to top Go down    keep the updates coming on Fri May 13, 2016 10:39 pm

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Keep the updates coming as I'm experiencing the exact same issues as you are with my RS and am very interested in the results.  I was toying with the idea of getting an Aeroflow shield but that's about $400.  Yikes.

Doing  a weekend trip from the Island up to Whistler, Lillooet, Cache Creek and return starting in a few hours.  Perfect time for an Aeroflow....

http://www.aeroflowscreens.com/K100_1100RS/K100RS_K1100RSTestimonials.htm

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41Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Fri May 13, 2016 10:47 pm

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@Shep wrote:Rosskko
Did you remove the OEM wind deflector?
I asked the Laminar Lip folk and their reply was "removal of the present deflector is optional".
I would think you would remove it, wouldn't you?
Shep

I left the original deflector under my Laminar Lip and at times it makes a difference to adjust it for increased air flow in slower speeds and hotter weather. It fits as intended beneath the LL. At 175cm/5'9" the LL does the job for me. Nothing will reduce all wind noise, there's no panacea, as there are so many variables like helmet quality, whether you wear earplugs, your seated height behind the 'screen, and lastly but not leastly, your tolerance level.

As an additional bit of info, about three and a half years ago I offered my new-in-the-packet LL on the forum for sale for a mere US$40. No one bit, so I fit it to my bike and am very happy I kept it. Here's another thread about this very topic.

http://www.k100-forum.com/t4961-windstream-deflector-for-a-k100rs


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42Back to top Go down    Re: wind solution on Sun May 15, 2016 1:10 am

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I will leave the original deflector on as per TWB.
The lip should be here in a couple of days and I will install and test it this coming week.

nvboy: I have only ridden the route once but it is a wonderful ride up to Lillooet and across to Cache Creek via Whistler. Lots of Twisties.

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