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1Back to top Go down    The journey begins on Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:28 am

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Well it started with the arrival of the bike last night. Some photos.
This photo shows the k3 gear selector and the one we found on K7. The big shifter broke the first time I used it...must have been made for someone with a crook foot or leg. It is in the process of being welded and cut down to a "normal" size. The bike shows 91,000 on the speedo which is not working at the moment. I will check the sender unit, connector, etc next week. Looking forward to much help from many people. It starts, goes and stops....was registered up to week ago. Indications are that it may have been a cop bike.


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2Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:19 am

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The speedo is a police one but the fairing isn't set up for the engine protection bars so that isn't police. What year is it?


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3Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:36 am

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One usual give away is whether there are extra holes in the fairing for the police bits and bobs.
Looks pretty good, Ainsjac!

    

4Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:06 am

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You're off to a good start. Nice looking bike.


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5Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:28 am

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Build date is 2/87 and compliance is 9/87. The reason I suspect it is ex police is that it is white inside the ducktail and white where ever there are chips.....although that white may be the base coat. Now the learning starts....blown high beam...do I have to strip the fairing off to get to it?
No holes for the crash bars....I got a free left bar from the wrecker. Anyone have spare right one?


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6Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:43 am

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The seat and ducktail have been changed as they are not police. The police originals are a single seat and radio box where the ducktail is.
GITH will be able to find out if you give him the frame and engine numbers.


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7Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:59 am

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Rick, when will GITH be home? 0094685K100RT is the vin.


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8Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:29 am

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hey stan ....gee you did well with the tie-down process

looks a blast ...have fun ol mate


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9Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:52 am

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Here is what RealOEM reports as a result of entering your VIN number - only the numbers need to be entered:

02/1987 K589 K 100 RT 84 (0504,0505,0514) Europe

So, 1984 K100RT built in February 1987 for the European market. I assume they include OZ in that, but ship them upside down Very Happy

..........and welcome to the K-razy club



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10Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:59 am

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giggles @ upside down ....

( i cant talk , just gotta learn how to do a backflip and land on my feet the next time i take a slow tumble ) and remind the neighbours not to lift by the screen.. ouch )


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11Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:29 am

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Nice project Ainsjack What's the plan for the rebuild - stock or Custom?
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12Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:49 am

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ainsjac wrote:Rick, when will GITH be home? 0094685K100RT is the vin.

It has a 12 digit number so it is pre 87. That is when Australia started having 17 digit VIN.

GITH will see it here and follow up. Give your engine and frame numbers also.

Agerbundsen says a 1984 built in 1987 I don't think so.

Personally I will say the year is probably 1985 because it has the old style brake fluid container, it has a later seat and ductail but as I said earlier they get replaced on the police bikes so they will sell as a dual seat.
I also notice that it has one original footpeg plate which is pre 1986 and a later one which could be up to 1991 but being silver not black it's probably 1987 or 1988.
The speedo says its a police bike but you will know for sure when you take the tank of as there probably be heaps of extra wires. It also would have extra switches on the dash for lights and siren.


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13Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:03 am

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Rick, how can you tell if the speedo is ex police? I didn't about this.

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14Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:07 am

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The standard speedo has 5kph increments and a police one 2kph increments (all the better to use in evidence)


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15Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:07 am

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88, good question. At this stage, change fluids and filters, strip off plastics and start looking at cleaning metals.
My wife is looking at colours! There is a long time before we get to that.


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16Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:14 am

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Well there ya go eh! I hadn't known about that. I just checked on the one I pulled off mine recently and it has 2kph increments, further indicating it is ex polizei. ( Odometer and trip meter stopped working) However...the other one sitting on the bench has none! Only every 10 kph. No idea what the one I shoved on the bike recently has...and too cold to go out to the shed right now.
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17Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:24 am

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Rick, no holes for extra switches, only the hazard warning switch. I went to realoem and typed in the number and it claims it is a Europe build, 2/87. Maybe I am reading it upside down from the land downunder. There is a relay on the left side under the left glove box.


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18Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:37 am

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The extra switches were in the OEM dash panel but factory usually put some blank plates in the holes.
Mind it is probably 23 odd years since the police sold it, if it was.
If it is a european bike then it could have been a have a holiday and get the bike at the same time thing and so when it gets back here it could be plated as a 2 year later bike.
I had a Toyota Surf that was a grey import and as far as Queensland Transport was concerned it was a 2001 model because that is when the plate went on it. It was made in 1990 but spent the first 10 years in Japan.


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19Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:47 am

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[quote="Rick G"]
ainsjac wrote:Rick, when will GITH be home? 0094685K100RT is the vin.

.Agerbundsen says a 1984 built in 1987 I don't think so.

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Sorry my misinterpretation of the "84" in the RealOEM data. It clearly states build month as 2/1987

    

20Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:48 am

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Saxon7 wrote:and too cold to go out to the shed right now.
Ta.
Sean.

and i gota ride in that tommorrow nite ...brissy to bowral ..non stop ...had a death in the family .... funeral friday 10.30 am ...and im in adelaide...

bob hope you got a room for over night in robertson .../?


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21Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:53 am

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PM me Charlie if you need a bed or a pitstop.
Sean.

    

22Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:14 am

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Rick G wrote:Personally I will say the year is probably 1985 because it has the old style brake fluid container, it has a later seat and ductail but as I said earlier they get replaced on the police bikes so they will sell as a dual seat.
I also notice that it has one original footpeg plate which is pre 1986 and a later one which could be up to 1991 but being silver not black it's probably 1987 or 1988.
The footrest bridges of the newer model was used from 09/85 (-86 year model).

Last picture showing the older bridge, is the naked -83, I`ll guess (no fairing present).

Early type brake fluid container was in use up to 09/87.


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23Back to top Go down    The journey begins on Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:05 am

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Charlie. anytime mate just call me. I'll send PM with nu,bers if not too late.


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24Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:20 am

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I've just picked up on this post...sorry, but since arriving in the Northern Hemisphere and at this latitude I am 'behind' a bit (17 hours from the OZ east coast, actually). It's just barely wake-up time on the US west coast, so in a coupla hours I'll be at work and plug the numbers in to see what the GBMWC thinks.

It is originally a 2/87 built K-RT model for the non-US market, as you've already confirmed, at least.


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25Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:22 pm

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Many thanks GITH. The right hand side handlebar weight, with a silver tube keeps falling out. The hex screw on the end is still attached to the tube and the tube has a small collar on the end away from the weight. I suspect that this collar catches on something inside the handle bar so that the weight can be secured tightly....but I can't see inside the handlebar and am a little too large to crawl in to have a look. Any suggestions?
Thanks to all so far...one mystery solved...2/87 bike.


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26Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:14 pm

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Have a look at Nino`s pictures in this thread....post #14.


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27Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:25 pm

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Thank you Inge K. It turned out that the 2 O rings had compressed once too often and when tightened, didn't expand far enough to cause friction against the tube...hence kept falling out...even though the end hex screw was tight. Another mystery solved.


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28Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:43 pm

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It seems that BMWNA's Great Computer only recognises US model VINs, unlike BMW Australia's, which cares little which market the bike was intended for. I'm sure there's a joke in there somewhere...


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29Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:56 pm

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Nice looking bike ainsjac. Good luck and post lots of photos.

    

30Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:56 am

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Well I have started. Opps, sideways.........what is that dangly thing just hanging there? Any help appreciated.


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31Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:08 am

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Sorry about previous post, can't seem to get it around. More photos.
Bicycle handlebar grip has a new job.

As you can see K7 now has a slimmed down new looking gear selector. Now the bike will not lean to the left all the time. I have also cleaned the rust and paint off the muffler shield, painted it with "heat " paint and attached with stainless bolts.
Back wheel off to have a clean.


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32Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:07 am

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The dangly bit it part of the sidestand retractor mechanism...pull the clutch lever and the sidestand retracts.
I don't use mine as I'm sure it puts extra (and unnecessary) strain on the clutch cable.

So good so far, no white zip ties to be seen...

Go at it slow and steady and you'll have a fine bike when you've finished.


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33Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:34 am

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Thanks Blakey, it was/is just dangling there and K3 doesn't have one. The side stand when I got it retracted when you took weight off it, just like K3 used to. A quick trim with the angle grinder means that I can leave the side down for as long as I want, or whenever it hits the pavement when I forget to retract it. With the back wheel off....now clean....I can try and clean the bum of the motor....degreaser tomorrow. Oh, by the way, Queensland was good to us a couple of weeks ago....but why does the Sunshine Coast have so many people there?


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34Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:25 am

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Well, Noosa is just up the road...it's a nice place no doubt, but during holidays, wow, people everywhere.
The hinterland is just a short trip up the hills. Great bike roads. The local Ambos (Ambulance) get a workout every Sunday. Gets nice and cold during winter. Those Canadians think it's cold where they are...this place goes down to 4 or 5 degrees C! Wink
Bris Vegas is just an hour or so down the road.

Brilliant beaches, brilliant weather (more often than not). I live here...what more do you want?

...and what a better place to be when you're a member of Julia Gillard's Surf Team (on the dole).


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35Back to top Go down    Plans for resto? on Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:45 am

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Only asking ask I'm on last two weeks of fit out on a complete police bike to full police specifications.

My brain is stuffed with what is, undoubtedly, useful information which has very little in relation to the real world (whatever that is), so feel free to ask if I can be of any assistance.

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36Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:25 pm

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Good idea for the bike grip....did you make the shifter lever, cob one from another bike or...? Mine is the original and would like it to be a bit longer for my big foot. Keep at it:)thanks for the pics.

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37Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:30 pm

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If you look at the first set of photos there is one of the gear lever as it came with the bike....a big cumbersome lump of alloy. I suspect it was made for a specific reason. If you want to modify yours I suggest you take it to someone who does aluminum welding and use the clamp that goes onto the spline as a basis. One word of warning....if you want a large pedal it may put strain on the thinnist section, usually near the clamp.


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38Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:53 pm

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kfilipow wrote:Mine is the original and would like it to be a bit longer for my big foot.

Check out a shift lever from a K1100, gives you 10-12mm more clearance.


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39Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:54 am

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A little more success today. Took the bike for about 30km "test"ride and there was no sign of leaks where I had degreased the motor, maybe the oil had been there for some time. When the ride began the speedo, odo and trip meter would not work. I had already cleaned the sender unit as well as cleaning the coupling under the seat with THE MAGIC STUFF. What else has a bloke to do....tap the gauges and they now work.
I also understand what RT had told me some time ago. RT told me that RTs are hot, very hot. He is right, even on a winter's day that fairing makes the heat stay around your legs. Might look forsome vacuum cleaner hoses before summer.


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40Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:39 am

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If a tap on the instruments cures the problem, have a look at this.


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41Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:07 am

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Thanks Inge, will have a better look at mine in about 2 weeks.


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42Back to top Go down    The journey begins on Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:23 am

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Stan we will have to work on taking the lowers off for summer, was talking to Charlie who still has his off, I did last summer and it was better. Maybe I'll come up for a run when the ice melts.


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43Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:13 am

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Inge, Thanks for the shifter lever swap information. KF

    

44Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:09 pm

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RT, look forward to seeing you again and taking advantage of your expertise.


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45Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:23 am

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After more help. That cracked hose is the crankcase breather hose...is that right? Can it be replaced with fuel hose, or do I need to get the correct hose replacement? If I can use normal hose, what size do I look for?


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46Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:07 am

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Easiest to use the OEM. I farted round all day once trying to make something untill I gave up, it is very restricted for room above the crankcase vent


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47Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:14 am

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Not sure of the size but if find something of the correct internal diameter it would need to have a preformed 90 degree bend and be oil resistant for sure.
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48Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:36 am

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I don't want to give false hope here but somewhere I came across a post (either here or motobrick) about a hose from some car and I seem to recall it was a Citroen and it was a airconditioner drain but as usual I cant find anything.
Can anybody shed more light? Inge are you there?


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49Back to top Go down    Re: The journey begins on Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:43 pm

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We sometimes don't appreciate how lucky we are in the UK; a call to Motobins or Motorworks and we would get a new OEM hose the next day.

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50Back to top Go down    The journey begins on Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:06 pm

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Hi Stan
I had to replace mine, got it from Munich Motorcycless in Perth, only took 2 days and was reasonably cheap. I don't think you can get the correct bend in a normal hose without cramping the corner, and it's a pretty important air breather. Whilst ordering go for a service kit as well, has lots of crush washers and O rings for not much cost. That way you won't be tempted to skimp on a new washer at oil change time.
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