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1Back to top Go down   Pannier key 43 Empty Pannier key 43 Thu Mar 20, 2014 4:04 pm

Tonyb

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Hi, does anyone have a pannier key 43 for sale or any ideas on how to get a new one cut?

    

2Back to top Go down   Pannier key 43 Empty Re: Pannier key 43 Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:49 pm

Rick G

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Here is a picture of a 43 you may be able to get one cut from that or make one yourself.

Pannier key 43 Nakler10


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3Back to top Go down   Pannier key 43 Empty Re: Pannier key 43 Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:03 pm

Inge K.

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Hm, where have I seen those keys earlier.................here is the rear side.


Pannier key 43 043_b10


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4Back to top Go down   Pannier key 43 Empty Re: Pannier key 43 Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:39 am

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rob ...I found today that I had two different locks on my panniers

similar to the keys inge has posted above ......what rotten luck

but I modified one of the cylinders ( the bit that accepts the key into the lock body )
here
Pannier key 43 Profil10


what I did was to get a 1.2mm drill bit and remove the part of the profile that different ...was at the base of the key ...in the lock mechanism

I found an old suitcase key that was very similar ...( as there is little difference on the keys from about 1/4 inch up the shaft of the key ...the important bits are in that last 1/4 inch )

this key was a cheney   number 35  which was a pretty close fit just a little profile modification required
Pannier key 43 2014-035

Pannier key 43 2014-036

both locks now look like this

Pannier key 43 2014-037

Pannier key 43 2014-038

the modified key which now fits both locks

Pannier key 43 2014-039

think it only took me half an hour once I got the key

hope it helps


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'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

5Back to top Go down   Pannier key 43 Empty Re: Pannier key 43 Fri Mar 21, 2014 1:31 pm

Inge K.

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All over the globe it now is a lot of owners of old K's up in the attic, checking old suitcases.  Very Happy


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6Back to top Go down   Pannier key 43 Empty Re: Pannier key 43 Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:11 pm

charlie99

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should be replicable inge
bought the key today from the locksmith

    

7Back to top Go down   Pannier key 43 Empty Re: Pannier key 43 Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:43 pm

Inge K.

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Here is something for you Charlie.  Pannier key 43 652573


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8Back to top Go down   Pannier key 43 Empty Re: Pannier key 43 Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:27 pm

charlie99

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lol ....thanks mate

trying to give me a brain fart sorting through 300 keys    giggles


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

9Back to top Go down   Pannier key 43 Empty Re: Pannier key 43 Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:46 pm

Inge K.

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In another forum one member got a Silca blank fitting his panniers.


Pannier key 43 Image110


Could also be some useful info in that thread for someone............

http://www.bmbikes.org.uk/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=18561&sid=4c590a5ef50a2d20f26227255c91852b


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10Back to top Go down   Pannier key 43 Empty Re: Pannier key 43 Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:56 pm

charlie99

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yep would be good for some of the profiles

unfortunately the neiman keys  are what they call a bent key (that is the metal is bent to the profile) rather than a solid extrusion - machined type profile
 by the look of the 43 key
this would be one of the easiest to adapt from another key standard  (with the flat back profile )

the 49 would be a pain ...and is what I had to do


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

11Back to top Go down   Pannier key 43 Empty Re: Pannier key 43 Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:34 pm

Stan

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New locksmith in town and he cut a key for me with a blank with Lowe and Fletcher on it. Will post photo soon.


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1987 K100RT vin 0094685 colour, orange peel, sorry, pearl..GONE
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12Back to top Go down   Pannier key 43 Empty Re: Pannier key 43 Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:32 pm

Inge K.

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charlie99 wrote:unfortunately the neiman keys  are what they call a bent key (that is the metal is bent to the profile) rather than a solid extrusion - machined type profile
 
Sorry, Charlie...but the groves looks like they are machined on my keys...some have never been used.
I would have agreed if we have been speaking about the keys to the Südhaus locks which was used on the Krauser panniers on the R models.

Neiman did deliver the locks from the second generation panniers, but I don't think that they was involved in the first generation......the locks just looks to simple.


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13Back to top Go down   Pannier key 43 Empty Re: Pannier key 43 Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:09 pm

charlie99

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yeah same inge   mine looks machined on 2 sides of the key ...but what I was told by the great guru locksmith
but some folks are known to bs a bit

but the bend in the profile towards the end of the key does look  a pressed finish , before plating

hmm more investigation is needed eh ?

yeah was thinking l&f for the single sided keys stan
bit better than that piece of stainless ?


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

14Back to top Go down   Pannier key 43 Empty Re: Pannier key 43 Sat Mar 22, 2014 4:29 am

Stan

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Yes Charlie....amazing what a professional with the right gear can do....but the stainless is still being used...wonderful bloke who supplied the ss. Photo of key tomorrow.


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1983 K100 basic vin 0003960 colour red  GONE
1987 K100RT vin 0094685 colour, orange peel, sorry, pearl..GONE
F800R black
    

15Back to top Go down   Pannier key 43 Empty Re: Pannier key 43 Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:13 pm

Stan

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Pannier key 43 Img_1313


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1983 K100 basic vin 0003960 colour red  GONE
1987 K100RT vin 0094685 colour, orange peel, sorry, pearl..GONE
F800R black
    

16Back to top Go down   Pannier key 43 Empty Re: Pannier key 43 Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:15 pm

Stan

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Pannier key 43 Img_1315


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1983 K100 basic vin 0003960 colour red  GONE
1987 K100RT vin 0094685 colour, orange peel, sorry, pearl..GONE
F800R black
    

17Back to top Go down   Pannier key 43 Empty Re: Pannier key 43 Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:33 pm

charlie99

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nice work !!!!


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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