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1Back to top Go down   Clubbing Seals.  Empty Clubbing Seals. on Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:10 am

rosskko

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The seal club.

Robertson.

Saturday.

Be there.

Or be somewhere esle.

A lesson in the ancient art of replacing the rear main seal.

Clubs optional.

Getting it right the first time extremely optional.

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Basic/2 6308802K100CJ  05/1988

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2Back to top Go down   Clubbing Seals.  Empty Clubbing Seals on Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:32 am

RT

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Oooo that looks like hard work. I have scones to prepare.


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3Back to top Go down   Clubbing Seals.  Empty Re: Clubbing Seals. on Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:32 am

Two Wheels Better

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...you will need exactly five more of that little teeny tiny star washer and five more of the Allen head screws too.


But I'll bet you knew that.


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4Back to top Go down   Clubbing Seals.  Empty Clubbing Seals on Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:25 pm

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Of course he did, it is Rossco organising this after all. Don't worry about cream mate, Ive got it covered.


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5Back to top Go down   Clubbing Seals.  Empty Re: Clubbing Seals. on Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:24 pm

rosskko

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If I didn't order enough bolts and spikey washers for my self I can just take them from the bundle I got for RT. SSSShhhhhhhhhhh.

If you got the cream I got the Jam.


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1986 K100RT VIN 0093801K100RT with summer fairing for a northern visitor

Basic/2 6308802K100CJ  05/1988

K1100RS 0194321
    

6Back to top Go down   Clubbing Seals.  Empty Re: Clubbing Seals. on Sun May 04, 2014 8:59 pm

rosskko

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Monday morning, yawn.

Had a sleep and all better now.

What a top weekend. As mentioned we never did catch up with Jim from Woolamia, the reason for the trip, but had a good time none the less.
The 100 minute run down to RT's place became more wet and cold the further I went. Fortunately Bob (RT) had the fire going in the shed to dry the clothes and warm the behinds. And he had scones. Claims home made. Guess we have to believe him. FIGJAM. Home made from his own figs. Truely.

The bike was parked on the stand and work commenced at 10.30 ish.
Lots of help offered, generally by way of a pointing elbow due to hands being kept warm in pockets, however Rickmeister was soon on his back with a 6mm allen key in one had and fending off over affectionate and inquisitive dogs with the other.
Bob had the polish out. Nice job he did too.

During the strip down only one thing got in the way. The clutch. Thanks to Bob's Japanese Cats Paw, 20 minutes of banging and head scratching was rewarded with a well place pointy bit and a solid hammer. Long end placed under trailing bolt on each of the three holding points, work your way round all three and off she pops.
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The O ring came out in one piece after a few laughs and a bit of jiggery pokery and the seal popped out with Wazzaz brilliant seal removing tool. (an actual real one made for the job)

Then it was pies and sausage rolls all round.
Unfortunately for the Robertson cake shop, Rickmeister, in his quest for the best curry pie in Australia, could not give the local variety more than a 5/10. He had 2 just to make sure.

So after the pies (or was it before) the seal was installed after more head scratching, a walk round the shed, an antique brace and bit, a lump of treated pine, a roll of electrical tape, an oil filter tool, a depth gauge and swearing with a duly placed 'bit o wood' and solid hammer to a depth of flush minus a bit. Success. Don't forget the O ring.

Just as a note, the clutch carrier had lost a lot of the chrome? facing of the shafty bit that sits behind the seal bit. Smooth, but missing.

It was at this point Rickmeister suggested we time the rebuild.
A little discussion on the correct torque settings for various nuts and bolts.
General consensus was 'leave it to the owner'. If he stuffs it he can't blame anyone else.
Set my arm to 6 rossko's and tightened everything up.
Gearbox was a bitch until it just popped back in for no obvious reason.

1 1/2 hours to get the bike back to a state fit to start it up.
2 hours to wheel it off the ramp. Not a bad effort.

Just to make sure it all went well I took the bike up the drive, managed to get 5th gear before the gate (at 13kph affraid ) and back to the shed. We figured if it lasted for that run (80 metres) it should be good for tomorrows 300km.

Thanks to everyone who came to watch help.
A lot was learned by everyone and some surprises for some on just how not hard it is to do.

I probably should mention here that despite the obvious oil on my center stand, the bell housing was completely oil free.
Gearbox was examined and it too is oil free.
Go figure.

Thanks again guys and gal (Mrs RT) for the help and hospitality and scones and fig jam.

RT, enjoy the last 50ml of the Wild Turkey Honey Bourbon that he, Tom and Rickmeister have a new found taste for.

rossko


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1986 K100RT VIN 0093801K100RT with summer fairing for a northern visitor

Basic/2 6308802K100CJ  05/1988

K1100RS 0194321
    

7Back to top Go down   Clubbing Seals.  Empty Re: Clubbing Seals. on Sun May 04, 2014 9:50 pm

duck

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Mini nail pullers like this are a perfect tool for separating the clutch pressure plates:

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91 K1
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8Back to top Go down   Clubbing Seals.  Empty Re: Clubbing Seals. on Sun May 04, 2014 11:03 pm

rosskko

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@duck wrote:Mini nail pullers like this are a perfect tool for separating the clutch pressure plates:

But nowhere near as exotic


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1986 K100RT VIN 0093801K100RT with summer fairing for a northern visitor

Basic/2 6308802K100CJ  05/1988

K1100RS 0194321
    

9Back to top Go down   Clubbing Seals.  Empty Re: Clubbing Seals. on Mon May 05, 2014 5:10 am

rosskko

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Oh, the clutch plate is only 3.65mm


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1986 K100RT VIN 0093801K100RT with summer fairing for a northern visitor

Basic/2 6308802K100CJ  05/1988

K1100RS 0194321
    

10Back to top Go down   Clubbing Seals.  Empty Re: Clubbing Seals. on Mon May 05, 2014 6:06 am

charlie99

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supposed to be about 5.5 mm

oh well !.....you get that   grin

good work there chaps !!!!!


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11Back to top Go down   Clubbing Seals.  Empty Re: Clubbing Seals. on Mon May 05, 2014 9:30 am

RicK G

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How many times do I have to tell you mad bunch that you must always use the correct tools
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Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health.
And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived."   Dalai Lama


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12Back to top Go down   Clubbing Seals.  Empty Clubbing Seals. on Tue May 06, 2014 12:43 am

RT

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That horrible Bourbon has now gone, and so is the headache.
a few pics
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Rickmeister contemplating the next move
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The next move
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The only bit visible after all the work, tks RT. (what a man)
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Seal, seal tool and no oil leak.
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important to handle the clutch carefully to not disturb the positioning.
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I blinked, buttered a scone and they were done, Waz, Ulrich, Bill Rosskoe and Tom. What a team
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BMW head engineer flew in to check the work. Tks Rickmeister.
Job well done men.


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13Back to top Go down   Clubbing Seals.  Empty Re: Clubbing Seals. on Tue May 06, 2014 1:06 am

rosskko

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Wow, that was easy.
Could have sworn there were one or two more steps involved, but obviously I wasn't paying attention.

Nice photos.
Comprehensive.


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1986 K100RT VIN 0093801K100RT with summer fairing for a northern visitor

Basic/2 6308802K100CJ  05/1988

K1100RS 0194321
    

14Back to top Go down   Clubbing Seals.  Empty Clubbing Seals. on Tue May 06, 2014 1:21 am

RT

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You can't always get what you want. (apologies Mick).
there's just so little attention span out there.


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15Back to top Go down   Clubbing Seals.  Empty Re: Clubbing Seals. on Tue May 06, 2014 5:25 am

charlie99

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good pics bob ...thanks

nice to see familiar faces of our southern brothers .... and welcome bill

 cheers you guys !


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'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%OClubbing Seals.  Au-log10

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16Back to top Go down   Clubbing Seals.  Empty Re: Clubbing Seals. on Wed May 07, 2014 12:41 am

Rickmeister

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Just did a conversion re: torque settings...

1 Rossco = 2.5 Newton millifurlongs.


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