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1Back to top Go down    Oil Change on Mon May 05, 2014 12:02 pm

emmanuelfiadjoe

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pls, I don't have the wrench to remove the oil filter. I've removed all the bolts holding the oil pan but its not dropping, any suggestions?

Also, the sealant available here is Abro RTV Silicone gasket maker & Abro 999 gasket maker. Are these ok?



Last edited by emmanuelfiadjoe on Mon May 05, 2014 12:19 pm; edited 2 times in total


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Model: K 100 RS 83 (0502,0503,0513)
Series: K589 (k100, RS, RT, LT)
Production Month/Year: 07/1984
Region: Europe
VIN: 0018945
    

2Back to top Go down    Re: Oil Change on Mon May 05, 2014 12:06 pm

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You don't need to remove the oil pan, only the round filter cover:
The oil pan has sealant on it where it meets the sump.

Be careful not to strip the threads.  


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86 Custom K100 (standard fairing, K75 Belly pan, Ceramic chromed engine covers, paralever)
K75 Frankenbrick (Paralever, K11 front end, hybrid ABS, K1100RS fairing, radial tires)
86 K75C Turbo w/ paralever
94 K1100RS
93 K1100LT (x2)
91 K1
93 K75S (K11 front end)
91 K75S
14 Yamaha WR250R
http://www.ClassicKBikes.com
    

3Back to top Go down    no filter wrench on Mon May 05, 2014 12:15 pm

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I don't have a wrench to remove the filter, that's why I want to remove the oil pan so i can remove it by hand.
pls check the first post, I've edited it


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Model: K 100 RS 83 (0502,0503,0513)
Series: K589 (k100, RS, RT, LT)
Production Month/Year: 07/1984
Region: Europe
VIN: 0018945
    

4Back to top Go down    Re: Oil Change on Mon May 05, 2014 12:54 pm

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Looks like either of those would work.


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Current stable:
86 Custom K100 (standard fairing, K75 Belly pan, Ceramic chromed engine covers, paralever)
K75 Frankenbrick (Paralever, K11 front end, hybrid ABS, K1100RS fairing, radial tires)
86 K75C Turbo w/ paralever
94 K1100RS
93 K1100LT (x2)
91 K1
93 K75S (K11 front end)
91 K75S
14 Yamaha WR250R
http://www.ClassicKBikes.com
    

5Back to top Go down    Re: Oil Change on Mon May 05, 2014 1:32 pm

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Pick up one of these (cheap), 76mm I believe:


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6Back to top Go down    the oil pan on Mon May 05, 2014 1:43 pm

emmanuelfiadjoe

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& the oil pan, how do i drop it pls?


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Model: K 100 RS 83 (0502,0503,0513)
Series: K589 (k100, RS, RT, LT)
Production Month/Year: 07/1984
Region: Europe
VIN: 0018945
    

7Back to top Go down    Re: Oil Change on Mon May 05, 2014 1:50 pm

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@emmanuelfiadjoe wrote:& the oil pan, how do i drop it pls?

K1100, K100; same thing basically re oil pan


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8Back to top Go down    Re: Oil Change on Mon May 05, 2014 2:41 pm

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Oil filter wrench: 76mm - 14 flutes


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Current stable:
86 Custom K100 (standard fairing, K75 Belly pan, Ceramic chromed engine covers, paralever)
K75 Frankenbrick (Paralever, K11 front end, hybrid ABS, K1100RS fairing, radial tires)
86 K75C Turbo w/ paralever
94 K1100RS
93 K1100LT (x2)
91 K1
93 K75S (K11 front end)
91 K75S
14 Yamaha WR250R
http://www.ClassicKBikes.com
    

9Back to top Go down    Re: Oil Change on Mon May 05, 2014 2:57 pm

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My oil filter wrench (if it's not turnable by hand) is two screw drivers stabbed in to the oil filter on either side, then turn it loose.  Razz   Then oil the rubber of the new one and turn it till it barely resists.  They don't need to be tight at all.  Even if it wants to unthread from vibrations, the sump plate keeps it from doing so.


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10Back to top Go down    Re: Oil Change on Mon May 05, 2014 3:29 pm

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@emmanuelfiadjoe wrote:I don't have a wrench to remove the filter, that's why I want to remove the oil pan so i can remove it by hand.
pls check the first post, I've edited it

its not us with the "read first" - its you
get the wrench

same as bashing the wrong key into the ingnition until it moves
and pls read the fu manual first


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11Back to top Go down    Re: Oil Change on Mon May 05, 2014 3:33 pm

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@zonenfeile wrote:its not us with the "read first" - its you
get the wrench

same as bashing the wrong key into the ingnition until it moves
and pls read the fu manual first

Well, someone had to come out and say it...
 lol!


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12Back to top Go down    well appreciated on Mon May 05, 2014 4:49 pm

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i appreciate your comments. I'm done reading the riders handbook & part of the hanes/clymer's. the thing is that your help is quite specific & has always resolved the bikes problems. anyway, i got the oil filter out with a chain. will check the market for a new one, & of course, the wrench.
thanks


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Model: K 100 RS 83 (0502,0503,0513)
Series: K589 (k100, RS, RT, LT)
Production Month/Year: 07/1984
Region: Europe
VIN: 0018945
    

13Back to top Go down    Re: Oil Change on Mon May 05, 2014 7:11 pm

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14Back to top Go down    thanks on Tue May 06, 2014 5:02 am

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many thanks
 Inge K


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Model: K 100 RS 83 (0502,0503,0513)
Series: K589 (k100, RS, RT, LT)
Production Month/Year: 07/1984
Region: Europe
VIN: 0018945
    

15Back to top Go down    still no alternative on the market on Tue May 06, 2014 4:44 pm

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i combed the market today but did not get any of the recommended alternative oil filters. in the interim, i plan to flush the old one with petrol & reuse.


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Model: K 100 RS 83 (0502,0503,0513)
Series: K589 (k100, RS, RT, LT)
Production Month/Year: 07/1984
Region: Europe
VIN: 0018945
    

16Back to top Go down    Re: Oil Change on Tue May 06, 2014 4:58 pm

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WIX  51348
Bosch  3330


Link below has more options. 

http://www.ibmwr.org/otech/partsubs.shtml#kbikes

    

17Back to top Go down    thanks on Tue May 06, 2014 7:06 pm

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already checked the Bosch but wasn't available


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Model: K 100 RS 83 (0502,0503,0513)
Series: K589 (k100, RS, RT, LT)
Production Month/Year: 07/1984
Region: Europe
VIN: 0018945
    

18Back to top Go down    Re: Oil Change on Tue May 06, 2014 7:19 pm

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I just installed a K&N KN163 oil filter and casteroil GTX 20w-50 oil 20 min ago.

    

19Back to top Go down    Re: Oil Change on Tue May 06, 2014 9:15 pm

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One of the members in Europe may be able to post some to you along with a removal tool.
I will do it from Australia if you want to. You can pay with PayPal.


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20Back to top Go down    Re: Oil Change on Tue May 06, 2014 10:06 pm

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@emmanuelfiadjoe wrote:i combed the market today but did not get any of the recommended alternative oil filters. in the interim, i plan to flush the old one with petrol & reuse.
Don't do it! If at all possible wait until you can secure a new filter. 
No matter what you do in an attempt to clean the old filter it will remain polluted. 
Patience over possibly subjecting the engine to undue wear and harm.


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21Back to top Go down    Re: Oil Change on Tue May 06, 2014 10:16 pm

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I would run the old one with new oil until you can get your hands on the "right" one.  The new oil will help and using an old filter for a couple of thousand extra miles will not make your bike explode.


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Current stable:
86 Custom K100 (standard fairing, K75 Belly pan, Ceramic chromed engine covers, paralever)
K75 Frankenbrick (Paralever, K11 front end, hybrid ABS, K1100RS fairing, radial tires)
86 K75C Turbo w/ paralever
94 K1100RS
93 K1100LT (x2)
91 K1
93 K75S (K11 front end)
91 K75S
14 Yamaha WR250R
http://www.ClassicKBikes.com
    

22Back to top Go down    Re: Oil Change on Wed May 07, 2014 6:02 am

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Mate. Confirm you checked for a Z418. It is also used on the Totota V6 Camry + on some Hilux Utes and on some Landrovers. All common vehicles in my part of Africa (ex) - to the South of you.


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23Back to top Go down    Checking ... on Wed May 07, 2014 9:37 am

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I just called Toyota Ghana Limited to check on the Ryco Z418, they'll get in touch in an hour. I hope they have it because I teach in @ least three different places in the Accra metropolis, I can't meet these appointments without the motor bike: there is always heavy traffic. If they don't have any, I'll have to use the old one & then pay someone to buy one for me on the forum.


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Model: K 100 RS 83 (0502,0503,0513)
Series: K589 (k100, RS, RT, LT)
Production Month/Year: 07/1984
Region: Europe
VIN: 0018945
    

24Back to top Go down    Re: Oil Change on Wed May 07, 2014 10:04 am

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BMW 3 series car filters fit, but they don't come with the o ring for the circular cover and don't come with the sump nut crush washer. If you are careful you can reuse the o ring and the crush washer.


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25Back to top Go down    crush washer? on Wed May 07, 2014 10:43 am

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i didn't notice any crush washer when i removed the oil filter. help me out here pls


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Model: K 100 RS 83 (0502,0503,0513)
Series: K589 (k100, RS, RT, LT)
Production Month/Year: 07/1984
Region: Europe
VIN: 0018945
    

26Back to top Go down    Re: Oil Change on Wed May 07, 2014 11:51 am

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@emmanuelfiadjoe wrote:i didn't notice any crush washer when i removed the oil filter. help me out here pls
He said "sump nut crush washer". He meant the oil drain bolt in the sump.

    

27Back to top Go down    pressure release valve on Wed May 07, 2014 12:22 pm

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is the black thing i see inside the original oil filter the pressure release valve?


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Model: K 100 RS 83 (0502,0503,0513)
Series: K589 (k100, RS, RT, LT)
Production Month/Year: 07/1984
Region: Europe
VIN: 0018945
    

28Back to top Go down    Re: Oil Change on Wed May 07, 2014 1:23 pm

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Hi there, as per their website, GUD filters (http://www.gud.co.za) makes and oil filter equivalent to wix 51348, their number part is Z217 and is supposed to be available in Ghana´s  market.
Hope this helps.
Best regards
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29Back to top Go down    Gud? on Wed May 07, 2014 3:32 pm

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thanks man, will check the market tomorrow, but has it the pressure release valve? I understand my oil pump may be damaged if the oil filter doesn't have the valve with the right pressure designation.


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Model: K 100 RS 83 (0502,0503,0513)
Series: K589 (k100, RS, RT, LT)
Production Month/Year: 07/1984
Region: Europe
VIN: 0018945
    

30Back to top Go down    Re: Oil Change on Wed May 07, 2014 4:23 pm

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Yes it has the pressure relief valve, only is set to open earlier (at  low pressure) than the original, this means that you'll have to make oil changes at 5000Km instead of 7000 or 10000.
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31Back to top Go down    Re: Oil Change on Thu May 08, 2014 11:14 am

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@japuentes wrote:Yes it has the pressure relief valve, only is set to open earlier (at  low pressure) than the original, this means that you'll have to make oil changes at 5000Km instead of 7000 or 10000.
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I don't understand how you know what the PRV on either filter is set at. I also don't understand how this relates to the oil change interval.

    

32Back to top Go down    Re: Oil Change on Thu May 08, 2014 11:32 am

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Hi, the PRV set point is in the filter´s data sheet. The PRV opens wen the pressure drop through the filter reaches the set point, pressure drop is an indicative of the filter´s cleanliness and hence of the flow that is passing trough it, the higher the drop the lesser the flow, for each model this means that soon or late the valve will open and the oil will pass unfiltered, a filter with a greater set up will take more time to reach it so you can change it less frequently, ie: every two oil changes and no at every one, or you can go with a synthetic oil and make the change at 10000km instead of the 5000 allowed by the mineral ones.
I use mineral oil and WIX5138 filters every 5000 km.
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33Back to top Go down    synthetic? on Thu May 08, 2014 11:59 am

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I checked online and the GUD has PRV rated @ 0.69 bar (10 PSI), the bmw genuine oil filter' s is @ 9-11 PSI. that's not much of a difference. I'm yet to close from school to check if I'll get the GUD. Anyway, I plan to use shell ultra 5w-40 full synthetic.


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Model: K 100 RS 83 (0502,0503,0513)
Series: K589 (k100, RS, RT, LT)
Production Month/Year: 07/1984
Region: Europe
VIN: 0018945
    

34Back to top Go down    still futile on Thu May 08, 2014 6:30 pm

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Japs, I located a dealer of Guds & Purolators but he didn,t have the stipulated ones for the K. anyway, I bought a fully synthetic oil (PETROMIN SUPER SYNTHETIC GF4 5W-40), I also found the wrench for removing the oil filter. I flushed it with petrol & reused it with the new oil.


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Model: K 100 RS 83 (0502,0503,0513)
Series: K589 (k100, RS, RT, LT)
Production Month/Year: 07/1984
Region: Europe
VIN: 0018945
    

35Back to top Go down    Re: Oil Change on Thu May 08, 2014 6:41 pm

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Good to hear you are on the road, hope you'll find the filter.
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36Back to top Go down    thanks on Thu May 08, 2014 7:54 pm

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thanks jap


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Production Month/Year: 07/1984
Region: Europe
VIN: 0018945
    

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