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1Back to top Go down   Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... Empty Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... on Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:02 pm

Markzz

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am trying to use bike & trailer instead of car...just need to figure out a tow bar/hitch...anyone got one for sale in Ireland/UK or got ideas/plans on making one?
thanks

    

2Back to top Go down   Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... Empty Re: Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... on Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:41 pm

92KK 84WW Olaf

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Hi Mark,

Great to see you. I hope this means we might see you in August!

Both 88KE and myself are on the look out for one. I guess though they will be a bit different. There is a design in Australia but mail cost is out of the question. I would be ok paying a fee for the design to get some made up.


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Alaska Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 58,645 now 98,780 miles
1983 K100RS 0011171 Fricka 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell No 32,600 miles
    

3Back to top Go down   Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... Empty tow bars/hitches on Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:29 pm

Markzz

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Hi Olaf

Great to hear from you and good that you and 88ke are on the case for tow bars. I got myself a little consett bike trailer today so want to put it to use this summer...might be more tricky to get the tow bar than the trailer!
It could be worth while paying for a design alright - any chance of getting it 
The single sided bushtec or reynolds R740 type hitches seem to be popular in the US and there's the classicind ones down under...seem basic enough with 3 or 4 attachment points, the rear footrest supports and the frame tail

I might be around for the run out in Aug alright, are you out then?

    

4Back to top Go down   Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... Empty Re: Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... on Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:30 pm

RicK G

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I will take some photos of the towbar I had on the K100 and some measurements and post then soon,like within a week or so.


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"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."  from Mencken's 1919 Prejudices

Bikes 1993 K1100 LT, 1998 K1100 LT, 1993 K75 RT, 1996 K75RT, 1986 K75 GS, 1979 Z1300 Kawasaki X 2 for now
    

5Back to top Go down   Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... Empty Re: Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... on Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:37 pm

Markzz

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Ok thanks Rick...much appreciated...

    

6Back to top Go down   Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... Empty Re: Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... on Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:56 pm

92KK 84WW Olaf

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Mark,

At the moment the plan is to stay at www.norevalleypark.com on Friday 8th August, stay over Saturday night. We just might get some UK visitors. its easy to find, M1/M50/M7/M9 and exit Junction 9.

GPS Coordinates:
N52 33.777 W007 11.698
Or in a different format:
N52.56295 W07.19497

Hopefully 88KE will make it too. We have a thread for this outing so do keep in touch.

Olaf.


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Alaska Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 58,645 now 98,780 miles
1983 K100RS 0011171 Fricka 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell No 32,600 miles
    

7Back to top Go down   Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... Empty Re: Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... on Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:12 pm

Born Again Eccentric

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Saw this on ebay - for a 81 gold wing, and looks in pretty poor condition...but it's pretty close to you eccentric guys (seller in Northern Ireland and might be worth a look). If not fit for purpose, it might work as a template for copying/designing/manufacturing your own version.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1981-HONDA-GOLDWING-GL1100-SC02E-TOWBAR-/121256129467?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item1c3b6db3bb


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Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... Uk-log10 Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... Sco-lo15Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... Eu-log10
                              Paul  Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... 905546712

"Heidi" K100LT 1991 (Grey) (VIN 0190172 Engine No. 104EB 2590 2213) - 5th owner. January 2014 (34,000 - 61,000 miles and counting....)
"Gretel" K100LT 1989 (Silver Grey) (VIN 0177324 Engine No. 104EA 2789 2211) - 4th+ owner. September 2015 (58,500miles and counting....). Cat C Insurance write-off rebuild Feb 17
"Donor" K100LT 1990 (Red)  (VIN 0178091 Engine No. 4489 2024) - 6th & final owner (crash write-off now donor bike).   June 2012 (73,000 miles) to November 2013 (89,500 miles)
    

8Back to top Go down   Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... Empty Aug run out & ebay hitch... on Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:43 pm

Markzz

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Thanks for the info Olaf...sounds like a great spot...might get there if I can take my bike on hols with the folks to achill that week & leave early...yeah right! ...if the planets align who knows... Surprised 

Paul, thanks for the ebay link...looks like its been on ebay for a few months by the dates of the best offers...made a silly offer anyway...could be a useful starting point for making one up... Idea

    

9Back to top Go down   Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... Empty Re: Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... on Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:41 am

Ed

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Mark , based on what Rick will show you and what I have seen , provided you can get something with the towball mount already in place the two side rods extending through to the gearbox should be easily enough modified. then it's just a matter of adding the upright supports ( these are just 30mm x 3mm flat bar).
the hardest part of constructing a towbar is the bending at the towball.
god luck .


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1987 K100RT  Ex- police        
1989 K100LT  Ol' Blue and "Kart" the Kamper trailer.  now KAPUT . 
1993 K1100RS  0194321         Colour #690 Silk Blue  aka " Smurfette"
2018 Kart upgrade.
Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... 10_x_110
    

10Back to top Go down   Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... Empty K100 Tow plans on Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:12 am

RicK G

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Here are the plans for the towbar that I made for my K100.
The usual disclaimers apply because I have no control over the quality of the build.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9r6ay1okk0prnk9/AABd99-ohdAK8qPmY84NC7EKa


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"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."  from Mencken's 1919 Prejudices

Bikes 1993 K1100 LT, 1998 K1100 LT, 1993 K75 RT, 1996 K75RT, 1986 K75 GS, 1979 Z1300 Kawasaki X 2 for now
    

11Back to top Go down   Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... Empty plans & pics... on Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:53 am

Markzz

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Thanks Rick...really appreciate getting the plans & pics Very Happy ...I'll have a good look & see how much I can do & get the rest made up & welded

    

12Back to top Go down   Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... Empty Re: Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... on Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:08 am

88

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If you make it down in August (with or without trailer) Mark, we'll have a good chat about it. It's a project I have in the pipes too. I've found a nice lightweight trailer. 

I've had a good look at Rick mounting design and a few other thoughts as well. I think it is easier and cleaner to start from scratch than to adapt from another bike. I you know someone with a cnc machine then it's easy to get the plates cut and grab a good welder to glue them together. I plan on calling in a few favours on that front to sort the tow bar.

Will


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"The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page." - St. Augustine from 1600 years ago & still true!

Bike: K100LT 1988. 0172363. AKA the Bullion Brick! Mods: k1100 screen and stands.
K1: 1990. 6374189. Custom Stealth Black paint.
    

13Back to top Go down   Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... Empty Re: Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... on Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:13 am

92KK 84WW Olaf

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Markzz,
Having a 1984 K100RT and a 1992 K100LT parked side by side I see significant differences which were obvious when I got the Krauser K2 panniers for the RT. The mounting positions are completely different due tot he change of the rear ducktail sub frame.

Any thoughts on the tow bar differences? The ideal would be to get someone to make up whatever number we would need and divide the cost but need first to check will they be identical.....

Any thoughts from the forum?


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Alaska Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 58,645 now 98,780 miles
1983 K100RS 0011171 Fricka 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell No 32,600 miles
    

14Back to top Go down   Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... Empty Re: Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... on Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:21 am

Ed

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my apologies Rick , what you have is totally unexpected. however for a novice even easier to construct than mine as there is no bending of rod at the ball.


On a recent visit to K75cster's for a coffee, we compared towbars.

not much variance between these two .
the hardest part of making these are bending the solid 1" rod to a suitable shape where the ball is located.
a decent hydraulic press would be required. the side rods are not all that hard to do with some good well positioned leverage. 
some welding for these is required also.
I am fairly certain the bottom one ( Kieth's ) is made by Classic Industries,
 mine (on the bike)Purchased from Rendrag is also as far as I know , Damo may correct me.
Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... 02011

due to the ABS modules being in the way , I have mounted the towbar further back . 
the rod on the left side when mounted correctly , is bolted to the frame at the gearbox.
this is not currently the case for mine.
also the line of push /pull on the towbar needs to be levelled out more.

Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... 02110

  
the pic below is courtesy of Rendrag ( Ebay ) , 
Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... Kgrhqm10
 Markzz , you may also want to look into some ideas on how to do the necessary wiring.
this may help you along the way.
the addition of a towbar and trailer has now brought new options to the motorcycling experience . a big like Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... 112350  from me.
hope you have luck with it.
If you need something to fit muliple bikes,
I can see benefits from Ricks design , in the way of multiple adaptors at the gearbox end of the frames.simply change the adaptor for each bike design, but use the same towball frame.
otherwise make your towbar bike specific like these ones.


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1987 K100RT  Ex- police        
1989 K100LT  Ol' Blue and "Kart" the Kamper trailer.  now KAPUT . 
1993 K1100RS  0194321         Colour #690 Silk Blue  aka " Smurfette"
2018 Kart upgrade.
Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... 10_x_110
    

15Back to top Go down   Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... Empty Re: Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... on Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:42 am

RicK G

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The centre of the ball should ne no more than 5% of the radius of the rear wheel/tyre above the rear axle when normal load is on the bike with the trailer attached. Idealy it should be at axle hight so as to make push/pull a neutral event.


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"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."  from Mencken's 1919 Prejudices

Bikes 1993 K1100 LT, 1998 K1100 LT, 1993 K75 RT, 1996 K75RT, 1986 K75 GS, 1979 Z1300 Kawasaki X 2 for now
    

16Back to top Go down   Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... Empty Re: Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... on Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:42 pm

Ghost who rides

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Although this is a niche subject K bike wise, Rick Gs' post and plans plus his posts and problem solving in all areas of K bike troubleshooting put him IMHO as prime candidate for MVP forum 2014, are we due for that yet?
Hey CF, RickG for MVP, OK?


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1986  K 75 C   2nd owner 187,000kms showing .
1987  K100RT  Police repainted, rough and unloved.
    

17Back to top Go down   Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... Empty Re: Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... on Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:59 pm

Markzz

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Like the idea Olaf of getting a few made up as it sounds from groverk like Rick's plans are adjustable for different models if necessary - is this right?
Thanks for pics gk - looks like a clean design on those ones from Classic Ind. I've wired up a few hitches for cars so I guess it'll be similar...

If your getting one made up Will maybe we can check it out in Aug...
Rick must be up there for mvp... Question dunno what that is...  Exclamation but sounds like a suitably worthy title...

    

18Back to top Go down   Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... Empty Re: Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... on Fri Oct 30, 2015 4:59 am

Ed

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wonder how Will and Olaf are progressing with the Aussie made towbar .


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1987 K100RT  Ex- police        
1989 K100LT  Ol' Blue and "Kart" the Kamper trailer.  now KAPUT . 
1993 K1100RS  0194321         Colour #690 Silk Blue  aka " Smurfette"
2018 Kart upgrade.
Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... 10_x_110
    

19Back to top Go down   Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... Empty Re: Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... on Fri Oct 30, 2015 5:50 am

92KK 84WW Olaf

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Over to you 88KE.

Wont be anything happening in next few weeks......we have Gaz80 coming over Monday and a meet up planned for next Saturday......

Then 88KE is off to France to Bikerboy [for those who remember he was on the forum for a long time, K100RS and a few Ducatis as well] for a few days and riding the K75 back to base here.

Having moved house just after the tow bar arrived it travelled with him to a lovely spot in Roscommon that I must go visit.

On a serious note we planned on making a copy and if anyone else is needing to do it now is the time to make the call.

I do have someone in Cork who will do it for us. The early pre 85 and post 85 will have slightly different mountings but the basic assembly remains the same. I have both here but if I am with 88KE his LT is post 85 and we can compare notes too.


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Alaska Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 58,645 now 98,780 miles
1983 K100RS 0011171 Fricka 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell No 32,600 miles
    

20Back to top Go down   Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... Empty Re: Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... on Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:34 am

88

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Yep, I lost a bit of momentum with the move but coming out of it now! The Tow bar is awaiting a guy with a mandril bender making a copy. Hopefully he will be able to save the program to run off copies! I can make the plate, ends and weld them.

W.



Last edited by 88KE on Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:36 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : It's too early!)


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Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... Ir-log1188....May contain nuts!Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... Ir-log11

"The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page." - St. Augustine from 1600 years ago & still true!

Bike: K100LT 1988. 0172363. AKA the Bullion Brick! Mods: k1100 screen and stands.
K1: 1990. 6374189. Custom Stealth Black paint.
    

21Back to top Go down   Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... Empty Tow Bar ? on Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:51 pm

yamaguzzi

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A friend of mine made this rig to get this 1966 Yamaha from Vancouver ,Canada to New Brunswick ,Canada . He made a detour to Mid Ohio where I took these.It worked great.Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... Img_2011
Wanted: tow bar or ideas/plans... Img_2010

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