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1Back to top Go down    Another K100 cafe racer. on Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:00 am

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I ran out of things I wanted to do on the zx14r.
Its got the go fast bits and programmable ecu and so on so the weapon of man distraction is a k100lt getting the strip back and café racer treatment.

    

2Back to top Go down    Mods on Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:01 pm

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So at this stage I have a stripped down k100 and have started a few mods.

Airbox is gone and built a custom filter intake to hold a K&N pod.

BST rearsets will get ordered soon.

Clipons are on the way.





    

3Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Sat Sep 06, 2014 2:27 am

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Keep at it Mossy and please keep posting, especially interested in the intake mods,
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4Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:05 am

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@Ghost who rides wrote:Keep at it Mossy and please keep posting, especially interested in the intake mods,
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Thanks.

The intake is finished. I am  just waiting on the pod to arrive.
it should run the same as stock as the sensors are unchanged.
It may be able to breath a little easier on full throttle.

Don't laugh at my tank I only just started sanding a few hours ago.
You made me put some polish on it just for the photo.

    

5Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:45 am

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G'day Mossy , looks like you've got some skills , I do hate ill conceived chop jobs , I've got my eye on you

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6Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Sun Sep 07, 2014 4:34 am

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Another day of sanding and some reassembly.
Tank had a dent. Its small and near the front.
Ill leave it and if it bugs me later ill need paint the tank again. Wondering about having it painted chrome.

Hagon shock cleaned and installed.

Wheel are going to be gloss black at some point.
Painted the inside of the rear disk royal blue. Looks good so ill do both front disks also.

I have been trying to find a ally radiator overflow bottle but the only nice ones found so far are 2 litre and a little big unless it goes where the battery was. I am planning on getting the new age small battery replacement and putting that under the seat hump at this point.

Was hoping get a overflow small enough to go behind the radiator where the airbox was.



    

7Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:33 am

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Made up a quick front guard today. Work in progress.

Ordered the speedworks rearsets also. Cant wait for them to arrive but ill be broke for a while now.

Also having trouble finding a coolant overflow bottle or tank that I like.
All the good ones seem to be for cars and to large. Might have to buy a car one and cut it down and re-weld the base.



    

8Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Fri Sep 12, 2014 6:22 pm

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Mossy, how'd you do this? 
Did you weld the circle onto the square (tech talk, I know)? Can you clue me onto the steps and the specs of the materials?


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9Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:55 pm

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@Kyle10 wrote:

Mossy, how'd you do this? 
Did you weld the circle onto the square (tech talk, I know)? Can you clue me onto the steps and the specs of the materials?


Rolled a piece of aluminium into a 64 mm external circle twice as long as the end result then hose clamped the piece that would be unused. I then shaped the edge on the side to weld so that it fitted into the original square and welded the 2 together.

    

10Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:18 am

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Did the ignition today and cleaned up and painted the fork brace.
The ignition is the original filed down to fit in what was the handle bar mount holes.
The needit isn't hard yet so its just razor blade shaped so far.



    

11Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Sun Sep 14, 2014 7:15 am

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Another half day in the office.
Horn mounted and a some wiring removed wrapped harness in self-ama.lgamating tape.

Cut the rear section down and shaped hoop to be welded in place.
Indicators will be bullet style and be inside the hollow tubes.
Theres another that has done this and they look good
Re-run alternator cables and removed battery cable set up as battery will be in tail hump.

Finished ignition wiring. Speedo will mount on the other side.

 

    

12Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Sun Sep 14, 2014 7:22 am

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Hi mossey. If you mount the horn without the two metal strips as per original, it'll sound like something from a moped. They don't like a solid mount.
Couldn't see where you have it on the pics.


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13Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Sun Sep 14, 2014 7:33 am

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@Comberjohn wrote:Hi mossey. If you mount the horn without the two metal strips as per original, it'll sound like something from a moped. They don't like a solid mount.
Couldn't see where you have it on the pics.

All good its still on the original strips that have been moved to 45 angle. Mounting point just under front right side of tank. Sits just under the radiator refill cap almost where the original air intake snout was.

Bit lazy so circle is location. I have my slippers on now. If I get my shoes on and go to garage ill be there for a couple of hours. lol!

    

14Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:46 am

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Filter arrived
Also shaped some inserts to be welded in hollow pipe.
Bullet indicators will go in the ends. I have the same ones on the trailer and they are great.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=778569346   indicators
Added a front frame brace to mount up tail unit also.





    

15Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:55 am

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I gotta ask...how will the K&N handle the rain?


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16Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:02 am

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@blaKey wrote:I gotta ask...how will the K&N handle the rain?
Ill only be registering the K100 3 months a year during Jan/Feb/March and will be short trip fine weather riding it.
Ill keep the zx14 rego up all year.

Our registration is $530.00 for a year and no point having both insured and registered all year.

I have a work vehicle so bikes are weekend and evening enjoyment only.

I had a guzzi 1100 sport with pods and it seemed ok in the wet. I guess a standard airbox is sucking wetness through the filter on any bike anyway.

Im more worried about my knee bumping it and when I have foot-pegs and seat unit if it looks likely ill make a hoop around it to prevent this.

    

17Back to top Go down    dyno? on Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:48 am

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with a pod filter and a new exhaust would it be necessary to put the bike on a Dyno to get it running right?

    

18Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:12 am

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@ssj_Gill wrote:with a pod filter and a new exhaust would it be necessary to put the bike on a Dyno to get it running right?

Im only new to K100 but I have retained the variable air valve system and also the sensor so im thinking I should be ok.
Ill be keeping the same header size also so should be ok with that also.


Also the surface area of the pod is almost the same as the stock airbox filter if that helps me im not sure.

    

19Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:08 am

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Handle bars arrived today.

Someone need explain to the Chinese that the throttle slide needs to slide on a smaller surface that's smooth.

2hrs sanding later and the slide works.



    

20Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:13 pm

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The bars on a BMW are 22mm and the bars you got are 7/8 so that leaves an interference fit, common problem and hard to get around with after market bars.


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21Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:05 pm

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@RicK G wrote:The bars on a BMW are 22mm and the bars you got are 7/8 so that leaves an interference fit, common problem and hard to get around with after market bars.
Ok that will explain it then.

    

22Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:04 am

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Those clip-on do come in 22mm bars if you search on ebay.  I bought the same set in black with 22mm bar and it fit the throttle and other controls well.


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23Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:57 am

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@KafeRacer wrote:Those clip-on do come in 22mm bars if you search on ebay.  I bought the same set in black with 22mm bar and it fit the throttle and other controls well.


I order clip-ons for a yzf600 Yamaha.

That would or should have been 22mm in metric?

It never gave the tube dimensions on the listing.

    

24Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:55 am

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25Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:11 am

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Got a bit done today.
Had a few callouts for work though.

Subframe welded and painted. Going to get the whole frame powder coated next year after finishing it. Will be on the winter list.



    

26Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:25 am

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Hi,

is in good shape that K100

Congrats with the project

    

27Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:43 am

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Problem with end cap bullet indicators in pipes as NZ bike plate will be to wide.
Will need go with standard stem indicators.
Didn't like the fork brace so off it comes.
Didn't like blue ignition so made it black.

Constructed rear mounting for ecu and mounted that.
Painted original bar ends as the fit the new clip-ons.





    

28Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:21 pm

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See if you can get a better (looser) curve on the cable coming from the ECU plug. You're putting a lot of stress on the wires on the inside of that curve; three possible outcomes:

1. Insulation splits and causes shorts.
2. Wires break.
3. Nothing actually goes wrong (if you're lucky!).

I've been wiring motorcycles since 1981 and that curve makes me shudder.


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29Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Mon Sep 22, 2014 4:39 am

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@Dai wrote:See if you can get a better (looser) curve on the cable coming from the ECU plug. You're putting a lot of stress on the wires on the inside of that curve; three possible outcomes:

1. Insulation splits and causes shorts.
2. Wires break.
3. Nothing actually goes wrong (if you're lucky!).

I've been wiring motorcycles since 1981 and that curve makes me shudder.
Yep its just to hold it for a while ill be slicing up the rear of the plug once I have bar clamps for the front of the seat. They will go either side of the added cross bar with a mounting bar across them.
The idea is I can on bolt the seat via the bar and the clamps will stay in place.

I ordered these last night.



Once I have those in place ill cut the plug back away and Raychem the wiring into its final shape.

Im sparky by trade.



EDIT:  Ok I went down to garage and sorted it out.
I used tar rubber that we use to seal cell phone jammer coax plugs outside and the trust self amalgamation tape.

Im calling it the DAI plug adaption and harness kit.

Ran some wires for the indicators and stop light etc.





More good news the collector has been made so ill pick it up this weekend.
Its in Mild steel but hes keen to make them in stainless if more people want them.
Hes also put a 30% up angle mid pipe onto it in 2inch external so might be time to search mufflers.

    

30Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:17 am

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Tail ordered today.
Collecting 4 into 1 on Saturday also.

    

31Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:47 am

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are you having the 4 into 1 collector made or have you picked it up off the interweb?

    

32Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:52 am

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@ssj_Gill wrote:are you having the 4 into 1 collector made or have you picked it up off the interweb?

Custom made for $80 nzd in mild steel about 40pounds uk.

Once its made he will upgrade me to stainless if I like for double that.
I think hes likely to be selling them if anyone is after one now he has the jig etc.
Theres 2 so far waiting to see what its like with the idea of getting one.

Will post a lot of photos once I have it.

    

33Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:28 am

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@Mossy1200 wrote:
Im sparky by trade.
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34Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Fri Sep 26, 2014 7:30 am

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Started seat base and mounting.
Have tried to keep the same line as the tank base.

Used a 10mm thick ally plate.
Outer edges may need trimed down when I have the seat unit.

Seat should arrive next week.





    

35Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:17 am

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@Mossy1200 wrote:
@ssj_Gill wrote:are you having the 4 into 1 collector made or have you picked it up off the interweb?

Custom made for $80 nzd in mild steel about 40pounds uk.

Once its made he will upgrade me to stainless if I like for double that.
I think hes likely to be selling them if anyone is after one now he has the jig etc.
Theres 2 so far waiting to see what its like with the idea of getting one.

Will post a lot of photos once I have it.

good to hear ...interested from over here

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36Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:22 pm

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And here!! :-c:


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37Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Sat Sep 27, 2014 3:46 am

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Ok spent the day with Malcolm

Have the mild steel prototype unit with oversized inlet pipe to check angles. Some modifications on the cluster of the inlets to better suit the pipes natural layout so it wont be the stock standard square pattern of most collectors but closer to the natural pipe layout of a k100.

He is happy to take orders for anyone who would like one.
Note the outlet length on the stock unit will be 40mm longer for those who like short pipes and you will need cut it down to suit if you want it shorter or advise Malcolm.
Prices are very good.

Stainless with outlet pipe to suit 54mm ID(note you can pick another size but it will add some cost as these will be hand made items).

Remember its a hand made item so any additional requirements can be arranged. Perhaps spring hoops and so on.

$160 NZD plus freight.
This is approx. 140USD or AU dollars plus freight or 85 UK Pounds.

Contact details

[email=malcdel@xtra@xtra.co.nz]malcdel@xtra@xtra.co.nz[/email]

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38Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:22 am

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looking good


just an input

you might notice that the inlet pipes on the standard muffler collector are staggered in length on an 8 valve  , on opposing sides to allow for clamp fit up

this could be a good thing to think about as it is noted that the welded pipes on later 16 valve models with stainless tubes seem to crack ,

I have a suspicion that the odd lengths of the pipes and heating effect , along with vibration causes this ....perhaps there is benefit from the clamp fit as it allows the pipes to move slightly and avoid the stress and eventually cracking .
unless you intend the fittup to be spring loaded and interference fitment

just a thought


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39Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:34 am

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@charlie99 wrote:looking good


just an input

you might notice that the inlet pipes on the standard muffler collector are staggered in length on an 8 valve  , on opposing sides to allow for clamp fit up

this could be a good thing to think about as it is noted that the welded pipes on later 16 valve models with stainless tubes seem to crack ,

I have a suspicion that the odd lengths of the pipes and heating effect , along with vibration causes this ....perhaps there is benefit from the clamp fit as it allows the pipes to move slightly and avoid the stress and eventually cracking .
unless you intend the fittup to be spring loaded and interference fitment

just a thought

Yes we have allowed 4-5mm gap in closest pipes for clamps to fit even side by side.

    

40Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:00 am

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What do you think?
Should I get this and mount a headlight inside.
I seem to like it but maybe im crazy.



    

41Back to top Go down    Not Crazy on Sun Sep 28, 2014 6:50 am

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Mate that would look way cool!
Really  like it!
Makes my plain 7 1/4" H3 headlight real boring.
Go for it! Steampunk all the way

    

42Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:04 pm

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Yes, go for it, that looks really interesting. What is it?  Worst case, if you don't like how it looks you can switch to something else later, and sell that to one of us. 

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43Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Thu Oct 02, 2014 5:41 am

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Headers are getting close to finished.
Tail seat unit is in the mail on the way to me.
Neutral circuit chip and gear indicator sorted. One of the 4 combined post receivers.

Trying to sort muffler

2 options

pipe 1 $300
pipe2  $230

pipe one- Comes in 51mm id which suits sizes
pipe two- I am asking what size inlets are available

Tending fibre but not sure.





    

44Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:27 am

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Seat unit arrived today and is a perfect match to the supports made earlier.
Plenty of room for battery in the hump and maybe even enough for the radiator header tank.














Plate is good fit also and indicators looking good.

    

45Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:20 am

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Rear light ordered.
Not sure but im hoping to cut out the shape and insert it into the rear assy if possible.

Constructed the rear bracket for the seat unit which I can add a couple of leds for the plate.
Mounted the rego holder also.

Collector 4 into one will be ready this coming week. The 4 collector pipes are welded in and the cone is ready to press onto the rig to shape it.





    

46Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Sat Oct 04, 2014 11:02 am

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Managed to find the brake parts I was after.
I have decided not to use the bmw original system.
I have 2 braided bottom lines.
Im going to run a T intersection and a new top line down in front of the triple clamp.









    

47Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:14 am

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What do you plan to do for rear-sets?  I love the bskspeedworks ones, but don't like the price.  I am debating making my own, but am not sure.


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48Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:16 am

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@KafeRacer wrote:What do you plan to do for rear-sets?  I love the bskspeedworks ones, but don't like the price.  I am debating making my own, but am not sure.
I have already paid for a set. (BSK)
The new design gear change clamp is sorted and they will start producing again.
Im number one on the delivery list I think. Very Happy

I was thinking of making some but a lot of time and effort without massive savings unless you have a very good workshop or a cnc machine.

Maybe a option would be buying a second hand set of voodoo or similar and adapting a mounting plate and brake master mount.

I did this with my race bike 5 years ago.
GSX1000 rearsets adapted to fit 1989 FZR1000w pre 89 race bike.

I still think the BSKs are to nice to not get though.






YUM. You know you want them.

    

49Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:29 am

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You are probably right,  It is just hard to comprehend the fact that the BSK rearsets will cost more then the whole donner bike!  I only paid 500$ Cdn for the donner, mind you is was not running and was in many pieces when I picked it up.  Cost about the same a a bsk rear set as it sits in the photo.


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50Back to top Go down    Re: Another K100 cafe racer. on Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:36 am

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@KafeRacer wrote:You are probably right,  It is just hard to comprehend the fact that the BSK rearsets will cost more then the whole donner bike!  I only paid 500$ Cdn for the donner, mind you is was not running and was in many pieces when I picked it up.  Cost about the same a a bsk rear set as it sits in the photo.

Could be worse you could be earning NZ dollars like me and pay $845 for the reasets including freight plus ill have to pay 15% GST ((TAX)$126)PLUS ABOUT $70 IMPORT DUTIES.

Total cost will be $1040 unless I am lucky and it gets past customs.
I paid $1200 for the bike so I know how you feel.

Still------------ They are nice rearsets.


Saying that my race bike cost me $4000 and ended up owing me $17000

    

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