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1Back to top Go down   Indicator brings on hazard lights Empty Indicator brings on hazard lights on Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:38 pm

Fliggy

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Having just got my 100RT through its MOT test, after having lain uncared and unloved for two years on someone's driveway, I was smugly riding it home when the indicator started playing up. When I now turn on the right hand indicator, the hazard warning lights come on. Does anyone have any idea what this could be? I have checked the fuses and taken off the RHS handle and cleaned it up as it was very dirty. The brake fluid from the hand brake reservoir had been leaking and gone into the handle; could this be the problem? Everything else is working well.

Bike running really well although low on power so that will be my next task to address.

Many thanks.


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2Back to top Go down   Indicator brings on hazard lights Empty Re: Indicator brings on hazard lights on Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:28 am

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I had the same recently and had to replace the flasher relay. Dependent on the mileage it might be beneficial to clean the starter motor first.


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Inge K.

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It's not good that you got brake fluid on the contacts, be careful so it don't
follow the wires back to the relay and contaminate your blinker fluid.

About the blinker fluid, do you know the last time it was changed.....this is
also a known problem source......when it gets to old.

You can buy it rather cheap here .


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4Back to top Go down   Indicator brings on hazard lights Empty Re: Indicator brings on hazard lights on Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:17 am

Inge K.

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If you have changed your blinker fluid recently, we have to look elsewhere.

Your problem could be caused by a malfunctioning load shed relay or a bad #7 fuse.
Rene mentions starter motor cleaning.....the LSR coil is grounded through the
starter relay brushes and commutator, to clean the commutator use a eraser.
Change the brush(es) if they getting close to the service limit.

Typical symptom if the LSR coil don't have a good ground connection:
4-way flash when using the flasher to one side, flickering headlight when driving
and the horns doesn't function properly (when driving).

If you have the above symptoms, but not the headlight flickering......the problem
is fuse #7 or its related circuit.


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5Back to top Go down   Indicator brings on hazard lights Empty Re: Indicator brings on hazard lights on Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:57 am

Holister

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@Fliggy wrote:... The brake fluid from the hand brake reservoir had been leaking and gone into the handle;
That in itself is a serious problem you need to sort out. It will most probably be the O-ring on the bottom of the reservoir. Costs about AU$5
RealOEM.com
#20  O-ring  Part No. 32721242624

You'll need to bleed the system after replacing the O-ring so probably a good idea to check the whole system and if the old girl has been sitting for two years then the brake fluid will need replacing completely. It will most like have moisure in the fluid

DON'T GET BRAKE FLUID ON YOUR PAINT WORK!! Have a wet rag or spray bottle handy so you can clean up immediately.

Re: the blinkers/hazzards. Both blinker switches and hazzard switch go directly to the flasher relay, so I suspect that. But, the other side of the switches go to earth so it would be a good idea to check your earth connections as this can cause odd behaviour. There's one on the R/H control assembly on the handlebar and if you have a lot of fuid around this may not be making proper contact (you say that it's only the R/H blinker sw. that does this so there may be your problem). The main earth is under the tank, L/H side of the main spar. Undo that completely and clean and deoxidise. Just my suggestions.

Cheers


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1989 K100RT     VIN No.  0097367 (naked)  
1996 K1100RS   VIN No.  0451808
  Indicator brings on hazard lights Austra12    Fuel:  95 Octane
Engine Oil: Nulon Full Synthetic 15W50
Gear Box Oil:  Nulon Synthetic 75W90
    

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rawdonball

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I knew I was gullable but this takes the cake.

I actually checked out that "blinker fluid" link while trying to get my head round it!

I will never read an Inge post again!


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Inge K.

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Success at last Twisted Evil .


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Holister

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I was beginning to think you were'nt going to get a bite on that one Inge. Laughing


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1989 K100RT     VIN No.  0097367 (naked)  
1996 K1100RS   VIN No.  0451808
  Indicator brings on hazard lights Austra12    Fuel:  95 Octane
Engine Oil: Nulon Full Synthetic 15W50
Gear Box Oil:  Nulon Synthetic 75W90
    

9Back to top Go down   Indicator brings on hazard lights Empty Re: Indicator brings on hazard lights on Sun Oct 26, 2014 12:22 am

Born Again Eccentric

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@Inge K. wrote:It's not good that you got brake fluid on the contacts, be careful so it don't
follow the wires back to the relay and contaminate your blinker fluid.

About the blinker fluid, do you know the last time it was changed.....this is
also a known problem source......when it gets to old.

You can buy it rather cheap here .
Indicator brings on hazard lights 44271  Excellent! Good one IngeK.

I wonder if BMW sell a blinkometer to automatically record the number of blinks so that you know when to change the fluid (recommended every 150,000 blinks).

On a serious note, perhaps this is why so many car drivers do not indicate - I always thought it was to stop their battery running out, now I think I know better!


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"Heidi" K100LT 1991 (Grey) (VIN 0190172 Engine No. 104EB 2590 2213) - 5th owner. January 2014 (34,000 - 61,000 miles and counting....)
"Gretel" K100LT 1989 (Silver Grey) (VIN 0177324 Engine No. 104EA 2789 2211) - 4th+ owner. September 2015 (58,500miles and counting....). Cat C Insurance write-off rebuild Feb 17
"Donor" K100LT 1990 (Red)  (VIN 0178091 Engine No. 4489 2024) - 6th & final owner (crash write-off now donor bike).   June 2012 (73,000 miles) to November 2013 (89,500 miles)
    

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Fliggy

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Wonderful, thank you to everyone that has replied. I am sure that it's going to be one of the above so best I get to it. My blinker fluid was just fine............


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11Back to top Go down   Indicator brings on hazard lights Empty Re: Indicator brings on hazard lights on Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:59 am

Inge K.

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@Born Again Eccentric wrote: I wonder if BMW sell a blinkometer to automatically record the number of blinks so that you know when to change the fluid (recommended every 150,000 blinks).

Nah, that isn't necessery, after  ~160.000 the relay starts to be very sluggish and jumps over every third blink  scratch .


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12Back to top Go down   Indicator brings on hazard lights Empty Re: Indicator brings on hazard lights on Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:54 am

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Perhaps the bulbs need rotating, so they get even wear?


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Is the bottom fuse okay? If it blows you get all sorts of indicator weirdness, ask me how I know.. Rolling Eyes


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Blinker Fluid, now that I need on my shelf, better get some before the nephews arrive and start looking at what I service my bike with, gonna put the wind up them for sure


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Can the blinker fluid be used for both left and right sides or is it specific maybe for either front or back flashers?


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ainsjac wrote:Can the blinker fluid be used for both left and right sides or is it specific maybe for either front or back flashers?
It is available in synthetic, cost at least twice as much but does the same thing.


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@the.postman wrote:
ainsjac wrote:Can the blinker fluid be used for both left and right sides or is it specific maybe for either front or back flashers?
It is available in synthetic, cost at least twice as much but does the same thing.
Indicator brings on hazard lights 44271


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Born Again Eccentric

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@the.postman wrote:
ainsjac wrote:Can the blinker fluid be used for both left and right sides or is it specific maybe for either front or back flashers?
It is available in synthetic, cost at least twice as much but does the same thing.
I believe it can be used interchangeably between right and left. Just need to be careful that you get the correct amber colour fluid if you want to use it front and rear. 

Many cars in the USA have indicators that flash red at the rear - that would cause confusion if you put the red blinker fluid in the front of your bike. Emergency vehicles also are able to order blue blinker fluid, but I think that is only available for special order.


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Indicator brings on hazard lights Uk-log10 Indicator brings on hazard lights Sco-lo15Indicator brings on hazard lights Eu-log10
                              Paul  Indicator brings on hazard lights 905546712

"Heidi" K100LT 1991 (Grey) (VIN 0190172 Engine No. 104EB 2590 2213) - 5th owner. January 2014 (34,000 - 61,000 miles and counting....)
"Gretel" K100LT 1989 (Silver Grey) (VIN 0177324 Engine No. 104EA 2789 2211) - 4th+ owner. September 2015 (58,500miles and counting....). Cat C Insurance write-off rebuild Feb 17
"Donor" K100LT 1990 (Red)  (VIN 0178091 Engine No. 4489 2024) - 6th & final owner (crash write-off now donor bike).   June 2012 (73,000 miles) to November 2013 (89,500 miles)
    

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Hey Fliggy. And you thought you were going to get some serious help with your flashing lights.. Twisted Evil 

Hope you've managed to sort them out despite the distractions you've been given from other members Smile


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Holister

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@Born Again Eccentric wrote:...
Many cars in the USA have indicators that flash red at the rear - that would cause confusion if you put the red blinker fluid in the front of your bike. Emergency vehicles also are able to order blue blinker fluid, but I think that is only available for special order.
Gee... you wouldn't want to get those fluids mixed up. Your blinkers could turn green if you weren't careful.


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1989 K100RT     VIN No.  0097367 (naked)  
1996 K1100RS   VIN No.  0451808
  Indicator brings on hazard lights Austra12    Fuel:  95 Octane
Engine Oil: Nulon Full Synthetic 15W50
Gear Box Oil:  Nulon Synthetic 75W90
    

21Back to top Go down   Indicator brings on hazard lights Empty Aha, fixed. on Sun Nov 02, 2014 4:35 am

Fliggy

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Thanks to all for your replies, even the indicator fluid ones, as problem now fixed. Totally dismantled the right hand side and cleaned all the fluid off and got a hair dryer to the places I couldn't reach. I've also replaced the reservoir O ring and everything is now fine, although haven't used in anger yet but indicator is blinking now as it should do. Best get the bike out where it belongs now.......


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Good news Fliggy - glad to hear that you got it sorted despite the distractions from some of us!


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Indicator brings on hazard lights Uk-log10 Indicator brings on hazard lights Sco-lo15Indicator brings on hazard lights Eu-log10
                              Paul  Indicator brings on hazard lights 905546712

"Heidi" K100LT 1991 (Grey) (VIN 0190172 Engine No. 104EB 2590 2213) - 5th owner. January 2014 (34,000 - 61,000 miles and counting....)
"Gretel" K100LT 1989 (Silver Grey) (VIN 0177324 Engine No. 104EA 2789 2211) - 4th+ owner. September 2015 (58,500miles and counting....). Cat C Insurance write-off rebuild Feb 17
"Donor" K100LT 1990 (Red)  (VIN 0178091 Engine No. 4489 2024) - 6th & final owner (crash write-off now donor bike).   June 2012 (73,000 miles) to November 2013 (89,500 miles)
    

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Stan

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Great to hear that you won't need that fluid.


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This version appears to be well priced and receiving good reviews as well.  

http://www.dimecitycycles.com/dcc-originals-all-purpose-blinker-fluid-16oz.html 

Should be enough for a complete flush of the system.


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@Fliggy wrote:Having just got my 100RT through its MOT test, after having lain uncared and unloved for two years on someone's driveway, I was smugly riding it home when the indicator started playing up. When I now turn on the right hand indicator, the hazard warning lights come on. Does anyone have any idea what this could be? I have checked the fuses and taken off the RHS handle and cleaned it up as it was very dirty. The brake fluid from the hand brake reservoir had been leaking and gone into the handle; could this be the problem? Everything else is working well.

Bike running really well although low on power so that will be my next task to address.

Many thanks.
what????? you have hazard lights!!!!!!  lol!

    

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sidecar paul

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They all have the hazard light function, Helen; you just need the switch and cable to plug into the wiring loom.

Paul.


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