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1Back to top Go down    Substitute fuel pump on Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:41 pm

sidecar paul

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I've just bought a replacement fuel pump from these people:-

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/351180041171?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

It's an exact replacement, (correct diameter and electrical connections) for our Bosch pumps for less than £50. 

And, from the pictures, it looks like the ones that certain well known suppliers are selling for £157!

Paul.


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'84 K100RS (0014643) (owned since '85), 86 K100RS (0018891) with Martello sidecar (built as an outfit in '88),
'51 Vincent (since '67),'72 Montesa Cota (from new), '87 Honda RS125R NF4 (bought 2015) 
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2Back to top Go down    Fuel pumps on Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:33 pm

gladstone sa old fart

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Here is a list that I have for fuel pumps

HOLDEN Commodore VK EFI, VL turbo and non turbo, VN onwards V6 and V8 sedan wagon statesman
HOLDEN Camira JD JE Astra Calibra
FORD Falcon XE XF EFI sedan only

FERRARI 412i Coupe
NISSAN Skyline Pintara Pulsar Bluebird
 
ALFA ROMEO 33 Alfetta 75 90 GTV Spider
BMW M3 E30 M5 E28 318i 320i 323i 325e 325i 520i 525e 528i 535i 633Csi 635Csi 733i
CITROEN
FIAT Argenta Brava Regata Strada Ritmo X19
JAGUAR XJ6 XJs Sovereign
LANCIA Beta Delta Gamma Prisma Trevi Y10 Turbo
LOTUS Esprit Turbo
MASERATI Bi Turbo
MERCEDES-BENZ
MG Metro Turbo Maestro Montego
MITSUBISHI Colt Turbo Lancer
OPEL Ascona Corse Kadett Manta Monza Omega Rekord Vectra
PEUGEOT 205 309GTi 405 505
RENAULT R5 Turbo R11 Turbo R18 Turbo R19 R21 Turbo R25 Turbo Espace Quadra Fuego
ROVER SD1 Vitesse 3500 Vanden Plas RANGE ROVER LAND ROVER 3.5 & 3.9 EFI
SEAT Ibiza Malaga
VOLKSWAGEN Transporter Caravelle


Hope this is a help to others
PJ

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3Back to top Go down    Re: Substitute fuel pump on Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:54 pm

RicK G

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And they are just the ones that fit into the vibration damper. There are many others that will get you going if you're stuck by the roadside. I have used pumps that are smaller in diameter and put a large and strong cable (zip) tie around the damper and pulled it up to hold the pump. Any pump that will meet the pressure and volume requirements will run the FI.


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"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."  from Mencken's 1919 Prejudices

Bikes 1993 K1100 LT, 1998 K1100 LT, 1993 K75 RT, 1996 K75RT, 1986 K75 GS, 1979 Z1300 Kawasaki X 2 for now
    

4Back to top Go down    Re: Substitute fuel pump on Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:23 pm

Two Wheels Better

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Ah, how at times we pine for the good old, gravity-fed days when all one did was reach down under the petrol tank and move the lever on both sides one soft click down to the auf position...and away until she stumbled and coughed well down the road, then it was another movement up past zu to res.




No wizardy electrics, minimal fuss, a set of points, a condensor and two sparkies.....

Oh, yeah, but it was barely 60 horsepower, crap brakes (the original ABS - couldn't make 'em skid), hard, skinny tyres, oversprung and underdamped suspension, a willowy frame, constant pushrod seal leaks, often imbalanced carbies, and only 280 Watts of juice....the good old days.


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1987 K100RS, '89 K100 w/K1100RS engine, '93 Framed K11/K12 engine 'Big Block', '09 K1300GT, '07 K1200R, '95 R100 Mystic & '77 R75/7.

    

5Back to top Go down    Re: Substitute fuel pump on Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:39 am

RicK G

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Do you mean when it goes cough cough and you reach down to put it on res and OH F*$# NO IT"S ALREADY THERE


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"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."  from Mencken's 1919 Prejudices

Bikes 1993 K1100 LT, 1998 K1100 LT, 1993 K75 RT, 1996 K75RT, 1986 K75 GS, 1979 Z1300 Kawasaki X 2 for now
    

6Back to top Go down    Re: Substitute fuel pump on Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:17 am

Be made

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@gladstone sa old fart wrote:Here is a list that I have for fuel pumps
Hope this is a help to others
PJ
Thanks for this. Appreciated

    

7Back to top Go down    Re: Substitute fuel pump on Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:20 am

Be made

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@Two Wheels Better wrote:....the good old days.
I still have a soft spot for those old 1000cc boxers.

They rock in my book. 115mph is plenty and 25mph to 115 in top and maintenence is a joy to do on them.

So simple and yet so practical

    

8Back to top Go down    Re: Substitute fuel pump on Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:30 pm

moultonlava

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Having just redone the inside of my tank after ethanol digested my  vibration damper, I can say this this is nice little pump.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BZGGXO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

...and when used in conjunction with this adapter fits perfectly.

http://www.euromotoelectrics.com/mobile/Product.aspx?ProductCode=FP-576FOAM

    

9Back to top Go down    Re: Substitute fuel pump on Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:13 pm

Arlina

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Replacement pumps can also be found by these (part)numbers;

VW 4A0906087A
VW 441906087E
VW 441906091C
VW 441906091E
VW 441906091F
VW 8A0906091A
VW 8A0906091G
VW 895906091C
VW 895906091D
Bosch 0580314068
Bosch 0580453081
Bosch 0580453070
Bosch 0580453071
Bosch 0580453060
Bosch 0580453058
Bosch 0580453054
Bosch 0580453046
Bosch 0580453041
Bosch 0580310007
Bosch 0580310006


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10Back to top Go down    Re: Substitute fuel pump on Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:07 am

brickrider

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"still have a soft spot for those old 1000cc boxers.

They rock in my book. 115mph is plenty and 25mph to 115 in top and maintenence is a joy to do on them.

So simple and yet so practical"

Exactly! That's why I'll ride my 1983 R100RS 'til the sun sets on my journey.  Very Happy

    

11Back to top Go down    Re: Substitute fuel pump on Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:40 am

Beamer

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This supplier is not the cheapest on the block but it looks well informed about models and OEM part number and suggests the follow Bosch number:

Fuel Pump In tank 0580463999 Bosch
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/New-Genuine-BOSCH-Fuel-Pump-0580463999-Top-German-Quality/401456337665?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20170831090034%26meid%3Dac45a4573b9a4b8384f7bbfbdf6895e1%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D263419599311&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851#shpCntId


There are cheaper options for that ref. , is this valid?

Does BMW generate a new part number for the same pump for every year of every model where it is used ??

    

12Back to top Go down    Re: Substitute fuel pump on Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:26 am

Matthew-Brisbane

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@RicK G wrote:Do you mean when it goes cough cough and you reach down to put it on res and OH F*$# NO IT"S ALREADY THERE
Been there done that 

More than once  scratch

    

13Back to top Go down    Pump filter on Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:47 am

Garyk100

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Yep lots of aftermarket pumps around, anyone point me where I can get the plastic mesh filter that goes on the bottom of the pump, the original round ones are nearly the same price as the pumps


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14Back to top Go down    Re: Substitute fuel pump on Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:21 am

Beamer

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@Garyk100 wrote:... the original round ones are nearly the same price as the pumps

BMW want 500 euro-bucks for a pump here. How much is your filter?

    

15Back to top Go down    Re: Substitute fuel pump on Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:49 am

RicK G

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@Garyk100 wrote:Yep lots of aftermarket pumps around, anyone point me where I can get the plastic mesh filter that goes on the bottom of the pump, the original round ones are nearly the same price as the pumps
Get a pump for a VL Commodore and use the filter that fits on them. Done it a few times and works well.


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"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."  from Mencken's 1919 Prejudices

Bikes 1993 K1100 LT, 1998 K1100 LT, 1993 K75 RT, 1996 K75RT, 1986 K75 GS, 1979 Z1300 Kawasaki X 2 for now
    

16Back to top Go down    Re: Substitute fuel pump on Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:57 am

Garyk100

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$47 for the fuel pump strainer, Munich has 52mm pumps for $299, eBay under $100 but no strainer


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The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese

1991 K100rs16v
1993 K1100LT
    

17Back to top Go down    Re: Substitute fuel pump on Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:01 am

Beamer

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Get a pump for a VL Commodore and use the filter that fits on them. Done it a few times and works well.

Is that the colostomy bag type filter? I've seen a few pumps like that but not sure whether they would fit in the tank correctly.

    

18Back to top Go down    Re: Substitute fuel pump on Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:22 am

Garyk100

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Thanks RicK, I have that style in the 11, I have my original pump for the 16v k100 and the round basket style strainer is stuffed, was hoping to find a cheep strainer


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The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese

1991 K100rs16v
1993 K1100LT
    

19Back to top Go down    Re: Substitute fuel pump on Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:55 am

Beamer

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Gary, I'm guessing that he gauze is damaged.

Instead of $50 for 2c bit of plastic, maybe you could keep the basket and attach another nylon  gauze from something like a chainsaw air filter or similar, using hard plastic cement or suitable adhesive.

It's really annoying the stupid money BMW want for these bits and pieces. The rubber virbation damper is 99 euros. I'm going to need to look at replacing that too. Sad

    

20Back to top Go down    Re: Substitute fuel pump on Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:15 pm

MartinW

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A mate rebuilt his filter screen with what I believe is Termi Mesh. And silver soldered it together.
Regards Martin.

    

21Back to top Go down    Re: Substitute fuel pump on Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:09 pm

Packo

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@Garyk100 wrote:Thanks RicK, I have that style in the 11, I have my original pump for the 16v k100 and the round basket style strainer is stuffed, was hoping to find a cheep strainer

Maybe this will do the trick if a few members get together

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-Diameter-52mm-Strainer-Electric-Fuel-Pump-Filter-for-FIAT-LANCIA-1984-1996-OEM-0580464998/32829653338.html?spm=2114.10010108.1000014.8.5838aa84f2E2Dt&traffic_analysisId=recommend_3035_null_null_null&scm=1007.13338.80878.000000000000000&pvid=fe8e13de-113d-40b8-beef-6626810e1048&tpp=1


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77 R100RS
2008 K1200S
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22Back to top Go down    Re: Substitute fuel pump on Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:10 pm

RicK G

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It sure does fit Beemer, I have found that folding the long mesh bag in half helps heaps getting it in
Terminesh would be about as useless as tits on a frog, the pumps will likely jam if particles over 6 microns get through and that mesh is about 25 microns if memory serves me correct.  Good for straining the peas or pasta but not fuel.


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"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."  from Mencken's 1919 Prejudices

Bikes 1993 K1100 LT, 1998 K1100 LT, 1993 K75 RT, 1996 K75RT, 1986 K75 GS, 1979 Z1300 Kawasaki X 2 for now
    

23Back to top Go down    Re: Substitute fuel pump on Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:47 am

Beamer

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Thanks for the confirmation Rick. I opted for genuine Bosch pump this time. It cost me about 50% more than a noname. I need another at some stage for another bike, so now I have a larger choice.

Obviously if a substitute material is used for the filter it has be fine enough. Gluing a bit of fly-screen on would not help.

    

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