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bolka13

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Hello!

I have 1987 BMW K100RS wich have 5 speed transmission.
My question is.
Does anyone know if there is any transmission with six gears, which could fit it in my 1987 BMW K100RS?

Thank you.

    

2Back to top Go down   Transmission! Empty Re: Transmission! Mon Feb 29, 2016 4:22 pm

robmack

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A K1200 transmission and bell housing will fit on the K100 / K75 block, however you're going to have to modify the frame to adapt it to the transmission, figure out how to adapt the K1200 hydraulic clutch to a cable operated K100 clutch, figure out how to adapt the sprague clutch mechanism on the K1200 to the main drive on the K100, buy a complete K1100 paralever rear end to replace the K100 monolever..  It's been done, but it'd be cheaper to get rid of the K100 and buy an early K1200 to get the 6 speed gearbox you're after.
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3Back to top Go down   Transmission! Empty Re: Transmission! Mon Feb 29, 2016 6:07 pm

92KK 84WW Olaf

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Plus I believe the starter and alternator cannot be easily removed from the K1200. On the K75/K100/K1100 you can do them while breakfast is cooking.....

We have debated the 6 speed gearbox fit quite a bit but the modifications are severe if you are starting with an 8 valve engine and Monolever rear end. If you have to do it start with a K1100??


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 48,061 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 61,190 miles

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

4Back to top Go down   Transmission! Empty Re: Transmission! Mon Feb 29, 2016 6:46 pm

duck

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Put me in the "Why bother?" camp. K bikes are designed to run at high RPMs so although it may seem like the RPMs are high it is not going to hurt the bike. (It's not a Camry.) Plus you get more torque in the highest gear with a 5 gear trans.


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86 Custom K100 (standard fairing, K75 Belly pan, Ceramic chromed engine covers, paralever)
K75 Frankenbrick (Paralever, K11 front end, hybrid ABS, K1100RS fairing, radial tires)
86 K75C Turbo w/ paralever
94 K1100RS
93 K1100LT
91 K1
93 K75S (K11 front end)
91 K75S (K1 front end)
14 Yamaha WR250R
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If you're after a taller (higher) cruising gear you'll find there won't be a great deal of difference.
Top (6th) gear and FD ratios are not much different to the K100RS.

K100RS 5 speed GB and FD
FD ratio            2.82
5th gear ratio    1.666
At 100 kph you're engine would be doing 4100rpm*

K1200S 6 speed GB and FD
FD ratio            2.82 (I think its the same as the RS)
6th gear ratio    1.582
At 100 kph you're engine would be doing 3900rpm* Just starting to get a bit too low for cruising imo.
*these are rough calculations.

The K100 has only about 60% of the bhp of the K1200S and so not as capable to handle a taller top gear anyway.

Top gear on a K100 would be about normal when compared to other bikes in its class. The power band cuts in at around 6k rpm so you're better off keeping the revs up in my opinion.


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1989 K100RT     VIN  0097367 (naked)  
1996 K1100RS   VIN  0451808
 Transmission! Austra12    Fuel:  95 Octane
Engine Oil: Nulon Full Synthetic 15W50
Gear Box Oil:  Nulon Synthetic 75W90
    

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bolka13

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Thank you guys!
I'm just asking is that possible and I know, on this world is anything possible  Laughing.
I think this modify is too much for me and I will pass.

I have another question.

Wich tires do you have on your BMW?

Thank you again.

    

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bolka13 wrote:
Wich tires do you have on your BMW?
Pirelli Sport Demons for me every time. Lots of threads on the forum about it. 

Like this thread.


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"The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page." - St. Augustine from 1600 years ago & still true!

K1 - 1989 - AKA Titan (unique K1/K1100RS hybrid by Andreas Esterhammer)
K1100RS - 1995. AKA Rudolf Von Schmurf (in a million bits)
K100RS - 1991 AKA Ronnie. Cafe racer project bike
K75RTP - 1994
K75C - 1991 AKA Jim Beam. In boxes. 
K1100LT 1992 - AKA Big Red (gone)
K100LT - 1988 - AKA the Bullion brick. Should never have sold it.
    

8Back to top Go down   Transmission! Empty Re: Transmission! Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:43 pm

92KK 84WW Olaf

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Hi Bolka13

This is great fun. We love  Worship   when someone opens up the tyre debate.

88 and myself live not too far from each other...about 3 hours. We go on trips together......We don't get much snow here and not a lot of frost but would have road surface temperatures quite low in winter.

He swears by the Pirelli Sport Demons, rides all year and in all weathers.

I am happy with Bridgestone Batlax BT45, 110/90/18 front at 38 psi and 140/80/17 rear at about 42/45 psi on the rear. Using them for quite a few years but as I use the bike a lot 6-8 months would be a good lifespan for me.

We ride on similar roads and we are both happy......so to some extent its personal choice/price whatever.

And you will find others on the forum using different tyres.

All I can say is see what is best used locally to you. I live with about 1500mm rainfall a year so plenty wet weather riding. 88 has much the same up his way.


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 48,061 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 61,190 miles

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

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