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ffbikersa

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Hello everybody,

In a month or two I will be selling my '89 K100LT and buying '95 K1100RS. Being used to an excellent level of protectonwhich LT's fairing and winsdcreen offer in a bad weather, I would like to replace the very low shield/screen on RS with something both higher and wider. 

Any recommendations - and sources where to get them? Preferably in Europe - as US suppliers most often don't want to ship overseas (or use moronically expensive UPS & similar instead of ordinary USPS airmail).

Cheers from Tarik in Bosnia 

    

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I would try the bike with the standard screen first if I were you. As long as you are moving that screen provides excellent protection as it was wind tunnel designed. They have a small spoiler at the top of the screen that can be adjusted to suit your height.

    

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+1 what BobT said.
Personally, I don't see why you'd want to bother doing that for a number of reasons.
1. The windscreen is part of the upper fairing. I don't think you could change it without replacing the whole fairing.
2. In this case, if you are going to replace the windscreen and fairing you may as well just go for an LT fairing and windscreen.... why not buy a K1100LT instead of an RS. That would be the logical thing to do imo.
3. The RS is a better windshield than the LT. I have a K100RT and a K1100RS and in my experience, while the RT fairing offers slightly more rain protection, the RS fairing and windshield provides better wind management. I find the RS much quieter than the RT. But I'm 6ft tall and sit quite high in the seat on the RT. The RS has a more prone riding position so the head is a little lower and out of the wind. Even so I think the RS windshield is far more streamlined than the RT. The newer LT looks like it might do a better job though.
4. BMW went to a lot of trouble designing and wind-tunnel testing a fantastic fairing and windshield for the RS and it works well at all speeds.


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1989 K100RT     VIN  0097367 (naked)  
1996 K1100RS   VIN  0451808
 Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? Austra12    Fuel:  95 Octane
Engine Oil: Nulon Full Synthetic 15W50
Gear Box Oil:  Nulon Synthetic 75W90
    

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ffbikersa

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BobT wrote:I would try the bike with the standard screen first if I were you. As long as you are moving that screen provides excellent protection as it was wind tunnel designed. They have a small spoiler at the top of the screen that can be adjusted to suit your height.

I planned to install the wider handlebar from LT model, and I DO ride the whole winter too (provided there is no sno & ice on the road surface itself).

I found the US Parabellum and Airflow screens, but they are a) damn expensive, and b) shipping costs from the USA - OMG.

Aeroflow DOES have a distributor in Denmark - but while the shield costs 284 US$ in the USA, in Denmark it is 410 US$ converted.

DOES ANYONE KNOW OF MORE DISTRIBUTORS FOR THESE WINDSCREENS/SHIELDS ???


OR ARE THERE COMPARABLE EUROPEAN PRODUCTS ???

Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? SYK100RS 

Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? Side



Last edited by ffbikersa on Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:45 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : FORGOT TO ADD THIS QUESTION)

    

ffbikersa

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Holister wrote:+1 what BobT said.
Personally, I don't see why you'd want to bother doing that for a number of reasons.
2. In this case, if you are going to replace the windscreen and fairing you may as well just go for an LT fairing and windscreen.... why not buy a K1100LT instead of an RS. That would be the logical thing to do imo.

There is a very simple reason: by the law in my country (Bosnia-Herzegovina) it is only permitted to import the motorbikes that satisfy Euro 4 exhaust emissions norm at minimum - so produced from 2004 afterwards. That's why I am limited only to what can be found in the small adds locally. There ARE 2 or 3 LTs, but they either have no ABS installed, or they are badly overpriced.

I have two K 1100 RS on offer  - one from 1995 and 62 000 km on the clocks, other 1996 but with 98 000 km. The former costing ca 2 000 €, latter 1 500 €. I will most probably buy the first one

    

BobT

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In that case you should look for a second hand complete fairing off an LT. I very much doubt that the LT handlebars are going to fit without hitting the RS fairing somewhere. The RS front fairing, handlebars and around the instruments is very compact.

    

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ffbikersa

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BobT wrote:In that case you should look for a second hand complete fairing off an LT. I very much doubt that the LT handlebars are going to fit without hitting the RS fairing somewhere. The RS front fairing, handlebars and around the instruments is very compact.

Thanks, that's not a bad idea... But my buddy from Croatia who has a reputation as the best expert for BMWs in ex-Yugoslavia says it can be done - i was going to take my new bike to him anyway to complete that replacement, and he would provide the parts. If at the end it turns out NOT to be possible, then I am going to look for the whole fairing.

    

8Back to top Go down   Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? Empty Found something in France... Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:02 am

ffbikersa

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It looks the French have something attractive, and the prices much more affordable than US products!!!

Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? BB012HP

http://www.secdem.fr/en/catalogue-produit.php?reference=BB012HP

Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? BB036GT

http://www.secdem.fr/en/catalogue-produit.php?reference=BB036GT

    

Point-Seven-five

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I would suggest riding the bike for a while before doing the LT handlebars. IMO, the stock riding position on the RS is excellent.  I have a bad back and have found the ergonomics BMW designed on the RS are excellent. 

I agree on the windshield.  I own and ride daily both an RT and an RS, and find the RS has less protection from rain compared to my big RT windshield.  An aftermarket shield that is removable with those Dual Snap dots would be a good choice, allowing removal on nice days when you don't really need it.  I had a Parabellum windshield on my RT for a year and found it to be really nice.  Trouble with them is that they are pretty fragile and mine broke when it leaned against the wall in my garage.

One more thing about the Parabellum, or any add-on shield, is that the slot behind it will tend to feed rain into the space behind the fairing.


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Present:
1994 K75RT
1991 K100RS


Past:
1988 K100RS SE
1994 BMW K75S
1992 BMW K100RS
1982 Honda FT500
1979 Honda XR185
1977 Honda XL125
1974 Honda XL125
1972 OSSA Pioneer 250
1968 Kawasaki 175
    

10Back to top Go down   Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? Empty Bars / Widshield Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:23 am

ffbikersa

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Point-Seven-five wrote:I would suggest riding the bike for a while before doing the LT handlebars. IMO, the stock riding position on the RS is excellent.  I have a bad back and have found the ergonomics BMW designed on the RS are excellent. 

One more thing about the Parabellum, or any add-on shield, is that the slot behind it will tend to feed rain into the space behind the fairing.

i saw that remark about the rain in other posts, think it could be solved by drilling a few small holes at the bottom. The would be practically invisible, I guess.

I bought before R 80 with narrow, sportier handlebars, and HATED them. So they were replaced with RT ones as soon as I was able to get them  lol!

    

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Hello, i am 1.92m tall,i tried the aeroflow screen, the tallest the have, and even with k75c bars fitted, it provided great weather protection, but was so damn noisy That i eventualy sold it ( to a smaller guy)😋
BTW, i have the rt bars fitted, the work fine with the rs fairing, plenty of room, 
I do like the upright riding position, but,alas,i still get the turbulence around the helmet 😦, but i i lift about 3-5 cm i am in the clear, maybe a higher seat?,it never ends 😀

K- rider


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Tarik, I had secdem screen on RS. It is good screen, little bit noisy at 60 kmh, but not after. Good styling too.

    

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ffbikersa wrote:It looks the French have something attractive, and the prices much more affordable than US products!!!

Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? BB012HP

http://www.secdem.fr/en/catalogue-produit.php?reference=BB012HP

I have that screen on my K100RS sidecar fitted with LT bars.  It works well.

If I was doing it again, I'd use some double sided tape between the screen and the fairing as it does chafe a bit. And you do have to drill holes in the fairing to fit the screen.

Al


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'87 K100RS/HRD sidecar (1100 motor)  sc25 

'87 K100RT with Paralever backend

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Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? K-dogs10
    

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ffbikersa

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AL-58 wrote:
ffbikersa wrote:It looks the French have something attractive, and the prices much more affordable than US products!!!

Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? BB012HP

http://www.secdem.fr/en/catalogue-produit.php?reference=BB012HP

I have that screen on my K100RS sidecar fitted with LT bars.  It works well.

If I was doing it again, I'd use some double sided tape between the screen and the fairing as it does chafe a bit. And you do have to drill holes in the fairing to fit the screen.

Al
Thanks Al, drilling has to be done for Airflow screens too. I would most probably go for the larger of two French:

Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? BB036GT

I suppose the normal height would do, as I am 178 cm tall (5'7")

    

AL-58

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I am 5' 7" also
I have the standard height as far as I know, I bought it from Motobins, there were no height options given.

2 views of the Secdem with RT/LT bars:
Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? P8161602_zpsewdu0zd0

Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? P8161596_zpswyrkuf5k

Al


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'87 K100RS/HRD sidecar (1100 motor)  sc25 

'87 K100RT with Paralever backend

"When I'm too old and too foolish to handle a sidecar I'll buy a Sportsbike"

Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? K-dogs10
    

k-rider

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ffbikersa wrote:
AL-58 wrote:
ffbikersa wrote:It looks the French have something attractive, and the prices much more affordable than US products!!!
No drilling is needed for the aeroflow screen 


K- rider 
Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? BB012HP

http://www.secdem.fr/en/catalogue-produit.php?reference=BB012HP

I have that screen on my K100RS sidecar fitted with LT bars.  It works well.

If I was doing it again, I'd use some double sided tape between the screen and the fairing as it does chafe a bit. And you do have to drill holes in the fairing to fit the screen.

Al
Thanks Al, drilling has to be done for Airflow screens too. I would most probably go for the larger of two French:

Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? BB036GT

I suppose the normal height would do, as I am 178 cm tall (5'7")


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ffbikersa

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AL-58 wrote:I am 5' 7" also
I have the standard height as far as I know, I bought it from Motobins, there were no height options given.

2 views of the Secdem with RT/LT bars:
Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? P8161602_zpsewdu0zd0

Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? P8161596_zpswyrkuf5k

Al

It looks real fine!!! The bike I am going to buy will most likely have similar colour like yours (2nd which I have in vew is metalsed blue), but I would go for light brown windshield, not clear. Well the manufacturer itself offer custom made height for added 11,96 €. Motobins at present does not have it anymore on their web site, but I have written them an e-mail to ask if it could be ordered. More likely I would go for one of German or Austrian distributors, because both Motobins and Motorworks often come up with quite expensive shipping quotes.

    

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[size=30]No drilling is needed for the aeroflow screen [/size]


[size=30]K- rider [/size]


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ffbikersa

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k-rider wrote:[size=30]No drilling is needed for the aeroflow screen [/size]


[size=30]K- rider [/size]

Yes you're right, I now read it on the Airflow page. But I have no problems with drilling the holes - the windshield will be installed as a permanent solution.

    

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ffbikersa

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AL-58 wrote:I am 5' 7" also
I have the standard height as far as I know, I bought it from Motobins, there were no height options given.

2 views of the Secdem with RT/LT bars:
Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? P8161602_zpsewdu0zd0

Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? P8161596_zpswyrkuf5k

Al


I got the reply from Motobins, they still do have the same windshield in offer, but not the wider type which interests me. So it will be ordering from SECDEM directly (if they include Bosnia or Croatia in their list), or from some German distributor.

Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? 3c8e07e310c64117a754aad3f3820d58

    

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ffbikersa

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Hello,

I noticed something unusual on the pics of bike with a sidecar here and another one posted at the Facebook K100 group.

Can someone please explain where did these non-standard lower parts of fairing came from???


Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? P8161510

Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? 13859410

    

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That's a factory fairing lower from a K100RS. Same part on both 2V and 4V K100RS bikes.

Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? K100rs-static


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Current stable:
86 Custom K100 (standard fairing, K75 Belly pan, Ceramic chromed engine covers, paralever)
K75 Frankenbrick (Paralever, K11 front end, hybrid ABS, K1100RS fairing, radial tires)
86 K75C Turbo w/ paralever
94 K1100RS
93 K1100LT (x2)
91 K1
93 K75S (K11 front end)
91 K75S (K1 front end)
14 Yamaha WR250R
98 Taxi Cab K1200RS
14 K1600GT
http://www.ClassicKBikes.com
    

ffbikersa

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duck wrote:That's a factory fairing lower from a K100RS. Same part on both 2V and 4V K100RS bikes.

Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? K100rs-static

Ah, OK, thanks, forgot to look at K 100 RS, thought it's more similar to my K 1100 RS.

My earlier bike was a K 100 LT

    

duck

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The main fairing and mirrors are the same parts for K1100s and both 2V and 4V K100RSs.

The brackets are different but aside from that K100RS fairing lowers will "bolt right up" to a K1100RS.

Lots of parts swap around on the different Ks.  You can even put a K1100RS fairing and paralever on on a K75 if you were so inclined - like I did:

Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? RJTvESL


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Current stable:
86 Custom K100 (standard fairing, K75 Belly pan, Ceramic chromed engine covers, paralever)
K75 Frankenbrick (Paralever, K11 front end, hybrid ABS, K1100RS fairing, radial tires)
86 K75C Turbo w/ paralever
94 K1100RS
93 K1100LT (x2)
91 K1
93 K75S (K11 front end)
91 K75S (K1 front end)
14 Yamaha WR250R
98 Taxi Cab K1200RS
14 K1600GT
http://www.ClassicKBikes.com
    

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If effective windscreen enhancements are still on your mind, this is one solution for those who prefer a lower profile. With it I use 25mm 'bar risers with 50mm 'bar end extensions.

Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? Lamina10
Laminar Lip, available in smoke tint or clear, about US$89.00 plus postage.

https://laminarlip.com/k100rs.php

Of course, there's always Aeroflow. I just sold one in fairly good nick on eBay US for about $60.00 plus postage.

Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? K_aero10


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ffbikersa

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Two Wheels Better wrote:If effective windscreen enhancements are still on your mind, this is one solution for those who prefer a lower profile. With it I use 25mm 'bar risers with 50mm 'bar end extensions.

Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? Lamina10
Laminar Lip, available in smoke tint or clear, about US$89.00 plus postage.

https://laminarlip.com/k100rs.php

Of course, there's always Aeroflow. I just sold one in fairly good nick on eBay US for about $60.00 plus postage.

Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? K_aero10

Thanks, no need, I am very much satisfied with the SECDEM modell I installed:

Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? BB036GT

    

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ffbikersa wrote:It looks the French have something attractive, and the prices much more affordable than US products!!!

Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? BB012HP

http://www.secdem.fr/en/catalogue-produit.php?reference=BB012HP

I was wondering why some delinquent had drilled holes in the fairing down the sides of the screen and then plugged them with black plastic caps. Rolling Eyes

    

ffbikersa

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stanthomas wrote:
ffbikersa wrote:It looks the French have something attractive, and the prices much more affordable than US products!!!

Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? BB012HP

http://www.secdem.fr/en/catalogue-produit.php?reference=BB012HP

I was wondering why some delinquent had drilled holes in the fairing down the sides of the screen and then plugged them with black plastic caps. Rolling Eyes

I am very much satisfied with how it looks once on the bike, it was worth the expenses and effort

Higher/wider windshield/screen for K1100RS ??? Holida13



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