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1Back to top Go down   fuel sender Empty fuel sender Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:22 pm

Flash of the gap

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hi guys, my red fuel light comes on full when i fill the tank, as it goes down it goes off , back to front so to speak, 
i took off fuel cap and lifted the float, light comes on , when i push the float down, to bottom it goes off  Sad any ideas, thanks in advance



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2Back to top Go down   fuel sender Empty Re: fuel sender Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:26 pm

92KK 84WW Olaf

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It's an incorrect setting of the Sally Gap.

Not sure is it possible something is electrically reversed? I take it that you only have the single fuel warning light?


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 48,061 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 61,190 miles

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

3Back to top Go down   fuel sender Empty Re: fuel sender Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:40 pm

Flash of the gap

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92KK 84WW Olaf wrote:It's an incorrect setting of the Sally Gap.

Not sure is it possible something is electrically reversed? I take it that you only have the single fuel warning light?
yes olaf, the 7l doesnt seem to light amber

    

4Back to top Go down   fuel sender Empty Re: fuel sender Mon Aug 21, 2017 7:06 pm

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It would be nice to have the model year and type of K-bike you own in your signature line.  This helps immeasurably when seeking help.

You have an 84 K100RS I take it based on posts you've made previously.  So, that means you have the older thermistor based fuel sender.  This unit has a pair of resistors inside the tank that change value depending on temperature and a circuit card inside the instrument cluster that interprets their values.  Either the sender or the circuit card is broken. My guess is the sender unit based on neither light working properly, but that's only a guess.  You could disconnect the sender from the harness and test the  thermistors for proper operation to narrow down the failing components. You should also figure out if the 7L indicator bulb is missing, blown or broken while you're at it.


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5Back to top Go down   fuel sender Empty Re: fuel sender Tue Aug 22, 2017 2:53 am

92KK 84WW Olaf

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Very important to show model, year and VIN number.

My own K is 84 K100RT and as said you will have the earlier 4/7l warning lights. Later Ks have a single 5l warning light and the units differ. Your fuel rank should be bolted down?

As far as I know the 'sender' units in the earlier tank don't actually move, they work on the basis of the fuel cooling the unit rather than using a float that moves, no fuel means it gets warmer and creates the electrical connection.


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 48,061 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 61,190 miles

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

6Back to top Go down   fuel sender Empty Re: fuel sender Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:39 am

Flash of the gap

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robmack wrote:It would be nice to have the model year and type of K-bike you own in your signature line.  This helps immeasurably when seeking help.

You have an 84 K100RS I take it based on posts you've made previously.  So, that means you have the older thermistor based fuel sender.  This unit has a pair of resistors inside the tank that change value depending on temperature and a circuit card inside the instrument cluster that interprets their values.  Either the sender or the circuit card is broken.  My guess is the sender unit based on neither light working properly, but that's only a guess.  You could disconnect the sender from the harness and test the  thermistors for proper operation to narrow down the failing components.  You should also figure out if the 7L indicator bulb is missing, blown or broken while you're at it.
thanks robmack, i,ll work on in during the week, and see how it goes, need to run out the fuel in the tank,

    

7Back to top Go down   fuel sender Empty Re: fuel sender Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:43 am

Flash of the gap

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92KK 84WW Olaf wrote:Very important to show model, year and VIN number.

My own K is 84 K100RT and as said you will have the earlier 4/7l warning lights. Later Ks have a single 5l warning light and the units differ. Your fuel rank should be bolted down?

As far as I know the 'sender' units in the earlier tank don't actually move, they work on the basis of the fuel cooling the unit rather than using a float that moves, no fuel means it gets warmer and creates the electrical connection.
this has a float in the tank olaf, if i could find how to post a picture i would

    

8Back to top Go down   fuel sender Empty Re: fuel sender Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:01 am

Flash of the gap

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92KK 84WW Olaf wrote:It's an incorrect setting of the Sally Gap.

Not sure is it possible something is electrically reversed? I take it that you only have the single fuel warning light?
your most likely right olaf, i did have the fuel sender out, when cleaning out the tank, i probably put the wires,  back wrong, reversed like


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