1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project.

Saxon7 · 1 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:42 am

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So the new shed is up. Feels like the Shed Mahal after the two old rattlers with dirt floors that have been here since Moses played fullback for Jerusalem. This is the first time I've been able to put the K bike on its centrestand and have space around it so I can start looking at things. The sidecar fuselage is also up and ready for inspection and work now. It's going to need a fair bit of work too, looking at the bottom of it.
Let the Hi-jinx begin! Periodic ~~Self indulgent and longwinded~~ updates to follow as they occur.

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indian036 · 2 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:33 am

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All Australian boys need a shed. Smile

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Awesome Sean, jealous Very Happy

charlie99 · 4 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:11 am

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good golly miss Molly

that is a stunning amount of space , if one remembers the "lean too" type sheds that were used before

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a few of the blokes about to be off on another adventure to far cairn this time

Saxon7 · 5 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:54 pm

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indian036 wrote:All Australian boys need a shed.

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If only to house the 'spare' fridge?

Saxon7 · 6 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:55 pm

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We're still using the leaning shed of Guyra, Charlie. Rolling Eyes

TacKler · 7 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:47 pm

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Wunderbar. Although it does look a bit too clean. A bit more klutter, please. 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. 112350

Saxon7 · 8 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:58 pm

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Herr von TacKler, rest assured its current state of " ordnung" will probably last about a week. affraid

Rick G · 9 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:50 pm

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Saxon7 wrote:Herr von TacKler, rest assured its current state of " ordnung" will probably last about a week.

Why take your time come to my place and get some ready made clutter. BTW haven't found that side cover yet Very Happy

Saxon7 · 10 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:34 am

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RicK G wrote:

Saxon7 wrote:Herr von TacKler, rest assured its current state of " ordnung" will probably last about a week.

Why take your time come to my place and get some ready made clutter. BTW haven't found that side cover yet

Rick I've seen your shed. Wouldn't mind being let loose in there for an hour, lol. Smile

Saxon7 · 11 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:57 am

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Hmmm... this looks a bit dodgy. I like a bit of noise too but this may not be the best way to go about it?

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Crazy Frog · 12 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:50 pm

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Saxon7 wrote:Hmmm... this looks a bit dodgy. I like a bit of noise too but this may not be the best way to go about it?

Sweet! you can tune your exhaust to what you like.
Use one, two , three of four of these devices. Cheap and efficient!
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Rick G · 13 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:34 pm

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Saxon7 wrote:

RicK G wrote:

Saxon7 wrote:Herr von TacKler, rest assured its current state of " ordnung" will probably last about a week.

Why take your time come to my place and get some ready made clutter. BTW haven't found that side cover yet

Rick I've seen your shed. Wouldn't mind being let loose in there for an hour, lol.

Don't be too sure of that one bloke from the Kawasaki forum went in there a few years back and hasn'y been see since. Very Happy

Saxon7 · 14 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:37 pm

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RicK G wrote:

Saxon7 wrote:

RicK G wrote:
Why take your time come to my place and get some ready made clutter. BTW haven't found that side cover yet

Rick I've seen your shed. Wouldn't mind being let loose in there for an hour, lol.

Don't be too sure of that one bloke from the Kawasaki forum went in there a few years back and hasn'y been see since.

There are many worse ways to go! lol!

Saxon7 · 15 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:38 pm

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Crazy Frog wrote:

Saxon7 wrote:Hmmm... this looks a bit dodgy. I like a bit of noise too but this may not be the best way to go about it?

Sweet! you can tune your exhaust to what you like.
Use one, two , three of four of these devices. Cheap and efficient!
So, just to clarify... these are for the dogs' ears, right?

Crazy Frog · 16 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:20 pm

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Saxon7 wrote:So, just to clarify... these are for the dogs' ears, right?

As your sidecar is on the left, yes it's is for the dog's right ear. 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. 44271

Saxon7 · 17 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:20 pm

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Some progress being made, though I'm still in that stage where you do one job which creates 3 more.
The sidecar fuselage is ~~probably best replaced with~~ ~~a cut down 44 gallon drum~~ a labour of love and requires much attention. I'm on my third attempt to fill all the dents and pinholes and feel no closer to getting a satisfactory result. Well... patience is a virtue they say. 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. 447221

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Crazy Frog · 18 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:01 pm

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Love the picture of the dog.... WTF?
I went to the same path last winter and it was expensive on Whiskey(as the eccentrics call it) and the sheets of sand paper.

Saxon7 · 19 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:42 pm

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Seamus is a master of the head tilt.
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Stan · 20 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:54 am

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The pin holes are there for a reason...air conditioning.....don't forget climate change

Saxon7 · 21 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:37 pm

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Stan wrote:The pin holes are there for a reason...air conditioning.....don't forget climate change

Stan, I live in Guyra. I had to paint the bike black so I could find it in the backyard. Smile

Just sayin'

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charlie99 · 22 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:04 pm

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TacKler · 23 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:28 am

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Saxon7 wrote:

Just needs a MG42 and you could be on the "Ost" front.

Saxon7 · 24 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:27 am

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David, with its excellent rate of fire, I always thought one would be handy in those pesky traffic situations.
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Saxon7 · 25 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:46 am

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Oops,
Looks like I may have contracted a mild case of K Pox.
I'm not saying who sold it to me but autumn is a nice time to visit Stanthorpe.
It's a later m

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odel than the red 84 model but there will still be plenty of compatible parts available if I need them and if not.... it may get a life of its own.

Ed · 26 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:32 am

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I see the Kave is taking on more karacter as time goes on Sean . Looking very cosy in there .

Saxon7 · 27 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:42 pm

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Yes Ed,
It is full already and has oil stains on the floor! bounce

Crazy Frog · 28 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:03 pm

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Saxon7 wrote:Yes Ed,
It is full already and has oil stains on the floor!

That must from be the triumph seeing that it will soon be abandoned.
We'll call them tears. 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. 44271

Saxon7 · 29 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:45 am

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I say, steady on CF! mwahahaha.

Saxon7 · 30 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:11 am

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Sunday arvo fun in the shed with Smithy. A bit of a project update.

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Inge K. · 31 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:17 am

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charlie99 · 32 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:49 am

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getting there seanii

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still missing on at least 1 cylinder ...you have checked valve clearances ...on the old or early ones could be tight and not compressing correctly ??? just a guess old mate good luck

Saxon7 · 33 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:24 am

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Hello Charlie, yes I checked the valve clearances and they were all within tolerances. Maybe I should check them again now it's been fired up.
Still a long way to go with the bike but I'm glad to see it runs and the motor seems in good nick.

Smile

Rick G · 34 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:43 am

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Sounds to me like it's low on compression on one cyl which is why when you give it a rev it sounds OK but wont idle or start easily.
These things probably suffer from the dry bore that the BMW cars get when sitting. Try some oil down the bore then back in with the plugs and turn it over without the fuel pump going then clean the oil from the plugs and fuel pump back going and see how it goes. If you have the crankcase cover off squirt some oil around the bottom of the bores. It can take quite some time to get oil up into the top of the rings as they are a horizontal bore engine.

Saxon7 · 35 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Mon Apr 09, 2018 12:11 am

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Thanks Rick. I know about this but in this case didn't consider it! Idea

Crazy Frog · 36 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:29 am

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I was chasing exactly the same problem last spring.
It started late fall, and once in a while, the bike was cutting off when running. The engine would drop to idle and eventually shut off.
I swapped all the electronic, fuel pump and other bits from my other running K100, but that did't solve the problem.
Finally, after one month I believe that I chased the problem to the inner of the fuel filter collapsing (The fuel filter was quite new).
I am not 100% sure about it, but the bike has been running flawlessly for the rest of the season.

2 years earlier, I had a similar problem and it was the fuel pump. Same thing, bike running and suddenly lost all power but was running well on idle. Stop the bike for 5 min then it restarted and was running well for few thousands of kms.

Rick G · 37 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:44 pm

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In Oz we don't see it much but if there is water in the filter when the bike/car is put away for winter the filter material can collapse when it is first used in spring. Many of the owners of BMW classic cars wont use them when salt is on the road so put them away in a heated kennel for winter.

Saxon7 · 38 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:28 am

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I put in new plugs and also a new fuel filter as a matter of course.
I also swapped the fuel map puter and coils, leads and fuel pressure sensor.
Smithy gave me a lot of help as he always does.
We also swapped injectors and put in some he had spare from an 1100 motor. This had more of an effect than anything else.
When I get the chance I'll put some oil in the bores etc and look at some other things. I suspect it might be an issue of several small things at once and we're gradually fixing them. I think the motor is good, so it's all positive for me! Smile

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Saxon7 · 39 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:21 am

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A bit more work on the sidecar boat. Not perfect but making progress.

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Saxon7 · 40 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:54 am

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At the current rate of progress I should have it on the road by 2047.
Hopefully I will get time shortly to put the new injectors in, plus the throttle body rubbers Charlie was kind enough to give me.
Will also install new coil leads and might even change the Hall sensor to see if that gets it running any smoother.
New rubber for the sidecar rim.
Too cold to paint here in Guyra now, so the new colours will have to wait until the spring.

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charlie99 · 41 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:01 am

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getting there seanii

keep at it ol mate

Stan · 42 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:43 am

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that rim looks like an old Mini.

Saxon7 · 43 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:19 am

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Thanks Charlie. Smile

Stan, I think some of the early DJPs had Mini rims. Bloke who put the tyre on that rim also says it's from a Mini. Possibly Cooper S type.

Stan · 44 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:09 pm

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They were called Minilites and were after market rims. Many were put on cop unmarked Minis that roamed around. Strange to think that they were the highway patrol cars of that time.

Saxon7 · 45 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:02 pm

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Stan that makes sense, thanks. I can see how DJP must have sourced them for their use.
Were the cop Minis the only ones with dual fuel tanks or did the Cooper S have them too?

MartinW · 46 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:49 pm

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The Cooper S had dual tanks.
Regards Martin.

indian036 · 47 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:01 am

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Cop minis had a pair of driving lights on the front, but little more to distinguish them. An acquaintance had a standard 998 or 1100 mini which he put similar driving lights on. Lots of people on the road pulled their heads in when he was visible. Very Happy

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Saxon7 · 48 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:51 am

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This is all a very long time ago of course.......so long ago that the cops still rode Triumphs. Very Happy

AL-58 · 49 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:30 am

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All DJPs had Mini wheels, so did all HRD Grand Rallies. If it was a British mag wheel it could be a Minilite. In Australia it's far more likely to be an ROH Contesta (local copy basically). I have a Contesta on my HRD.

For that stud pattern there is a 12" wheel from the last of the real Minis that runs a low profile tyre. I've been trying to get one for the right price for years. There's also a 13" Moke wheel, but you wont get it under the mudguard.

As an ex-Leyland apprentice myself and having a father that worked for BMC/BL/Leyland Australia from '58 till '76 my brain is full of it Sad

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Two Wheels Better · 50 Re: 1984 K100RT and DJP Sidecar Project. Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:54 am

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Saxon7 wrote:This is all a very long time ago of course.......so long ago that the cops still rode Triumphs.

Now they ride radar and speed cameras. Fish in a barrel. Brings it in far easier.

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