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tinyspuds

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Hi all,
Next job is to replace the remaining fuel system perishables (have already done the internal and external fuel hoses - with your help Very Happy).
The (partial?) solution to sourcing suitably narrow clamp bands is as Rick G wrote:

@RicK G wrote:For clamps the Suzuki ones are the go

48mm Suzuki band clamp   09402-48208 for TB->bushings and bushings->air plenum connections.  Cost about $4.75 each. not sure if the price is USD AUD or even current

There are 3 ID sizes needed:

46mm
48.5mm
50mm

Q1. Does anyone know if this substitute part has the range to cover all 3 internal diameters?
Q2. Or a source for the 46 and 50mm jobbies?
Q3. Others on the forum have been happy to go with cable wraps (which I take to be same as cable ties?) would these be std plastic ties or do I need stainless?

Thanks as always for the guidance and support.

PS I almost bid on a ‘parts’ bike last night. Apparently the cure for K-pox is to only look at flea bay when Mrs Spuds is also on the sofa...


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1985 BMW K100RT + Hedingham HUB and LL’s. VIN 0028106. (Not blind to the irony of an April 1 production date).
1986 K100RS in boxes. VIN 0141918.
1954 Royal Enfield 350 Bullet. Original.
    

Two Wheels Better

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Have a squiz at Charlie's 83 - 84 Engine Cleanup thread. It's a good read, all of it, but have a look at post 361 where he shows the (reusable) Suzuki hose clamps. Perhaps a PM would reveal the part number and/or size secret.

48mm Suzuki clamp part number is.... 09402-48208



Last edited by Two Wheels Better on Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:29 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Located numero)


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chris846

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Try searching for Oetiker stepless clamps. They do a stainless version, and as for the biggie - yes they are narrow enough for the moulded ring in the rubber inlet sleeves.

I've used them and they fit fine. Later on I'll dig out the specs/part nos for the exact items.


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charlie99

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@Two Wheels Better wrote:Have a squiz at Charlie's 83 - 84 Engine Cleanup thread. It's a good read, all of it, but have a look at post 361 where he shows the (reusable) Suzuki hose clamps. Perhaps a PM would reveal the part number and/or size secret.

48mm Suzuki clamp part number is.... 09402-48208

just to add

the part for the 46mm lower of top rubber  clamps   is quite (Suzuki ) logical  09402 - 46208

hope it helps someone


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chris846

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Here y'go, 7mm wide stainless, oohbay item no 183268678706 
Hose clamps. Throttle body, plenum etc 03811
Hose clamps. Throttle body, plenum etc 04011
Hose clamps. Throttle body, plenum etc 04210
Hose clamps. Throttle body, plenum etc 04410


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tinyspuds

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Thanks so much folks. 
Coolant hoses hopefully going in this week while I wait on delivery of the remaining fuel delivery perishables - and either suzuki clamps or stainless steps (gonna sleep on that).
Stu


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1985 BMW K100RT + Hedingham HUB and LL’s. VIN 0028106. (Not blind to the irony of an April 1 production date).
1986 K100RS in boxes. VIN 0141918.
1954 Royal Enfield 350 Bullet. Original.
    

GF Wollongong

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Anyone know the correct name for the screw hose clamps that are used on the lower inlet manifold rubber (below the throttle bodies)?

I have tried to find the specific name ... no success

I am avoiding the Oetiker clamps because I'd prefer to use the screw ones and I expect I will need the tightening tool. 

I went to Suzuki the other day and they quoted me $7.50 each for the 46mm and 48mm clamps.

I'd rather stainless.

I know I'm being a tight arse but 8 clamps at (BMW) $8.50 is too much - even if I can afford it. The bike cost me $500 and I've just lashed out on the top and bottom rubbers.

Thanks

Guy

    

MartinW

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Stainless steel cable ties are cheap and available at Jay Car or Bunnings. There is a special tool to tighten them but you should be able to work around it.
Regards Martin.


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RicK G

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Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health.
And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived."   Dalai Lama


Bikes 1998 K1100 LT, 1993 K75 RT, 1996 K75RT, 1986 K75 GS, 1979 Z1300 Kawasaki
    

DadofHedgehog

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@tinyspuds wrote:Hi all,
Next job is to replace the remaining fuel system perishables (have already done the internal and external fuel hoses - with your help Very Happy).
The (partial?) solution to sourcing suitably narrow clamp bands is as Rick G wrote:

@RicK G wrote:For clamps the Suzuki ones are the go

48mm Suzuki band clamp   09402-48208 for TB->bushings and bushings->air plenum connections.  Cost about $4.75 each. not sure if the price is USD AUD or even current

There are 3 ID sizes needed:

46mm
48.5mm
50mm

Q1. Does anyone know if this substitute part has the range to cover all 3 internal diameters?
Q2. Or a source for the 46 and 50mm jobbies?
Q3. Others on the forum have been happy to go with cable wraps (which I take to be same as cable ties?) would these be std plastic ties or do I need stainless?

Thanks as always for the guidance and support.

Also, take a look at Duck's "Other Parts" page here, halfway down... throttle body clamps. I got some this past week from him, as a great price.

http://www.kbikeparts.com/otherstuff.htm


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PRESENT:
1995 K75T.  I am the 3d owner.  Bought it in June 2019 with 6,242 miles on the odo.
1991 K100RS 4-valve attached to a 1990 Flexit sidecar. I am at least the 3d owner. Bought with 21,00+ miles on bike's odo.

PAST:
old (indeterminate age) Ural + sidecar
1997 Buell S3T Thunderbolt
1982 BMW R100CS
1974 Kawasaki KZ400
1970 Suzuki Titan
    

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redrockmania

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I have a large number of new 48mm and 50mm genuine USA made Oetiker brand hose clamps. The easiest way of crimping them tight is to use a pair of CV Joint clamp crimping pliers which are readily available. Happy to sell them within Australia for $3.00 each plus postage. These are identical to the original BMW clamps, but without the BMW logo embossed. I do not have the 46mm clamps.

    

DadofHedgehog

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@redrockmania wrote:I have a large number of new 48mm and 50mm genuine USA made Oetiker brand hose clamps. The easiest way of crimping them tight is to use a pair of CV Joint clamp crimping pliers which are readily available. Happy to sell them within Australia for $3.00 each plus postage. These are identical to the original BMW clamps, but without the BMW logo embossed. I do not have the 46mm clamps.

Your avatar says "Kentucky NSW". Is that really a thing? Being from the other Kentucky, I'll now have to look this up on a map of Oz.


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PRESENT:
1995 K75T.  I am the 3d owner.  Bought it in June 2019 with 6,242 miles on the odo.
1991 K100RS 4-valve attached to a 1990 Flexit sidecar. I am at least the 3d owner. Bought with 21,00+ miles on bike's odo.

PAST:
old (indeterminate age) Ural + sidecar
1997 Buell S3T Thunderbolt
1982 BMW R100CS
1974 Kawasaki KZ400
1970 Suzuki Titan
    

Dai

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I'm gonna bite. Which bit of Kentucky? I spent a year in Pikeville as a scholarship pupil at Pikeville College (now Pikeville U, I believe). What you guys call a 'returner' as I was in my early 40s at the time.


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1983 K100 upgraded to K100RS spec, 1987 K100RT
Others...
1978 Moto Guzzi 850-T3, 1979 Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California,1993 Moto Guzzi 1100ie California
2020 Royal Enfield Bullet 500
    

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redrockmania

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Kentucky in the Australian state of New South Wales is in an area known as (wait for it) New England.
Our village boasts 311 souls and is about 1100 metres above sea level. In the 19th Century successful superfine wool Merino sheep farming was established and remains dominant today, although cattle farming has increased. After the end of World War I, some properties around Kentucky were purchased by the Government and released to returning soldiers (these were known as Soldier Settler Blocks). The Kentucky bocks were converted to mainly successful fruit orchards - apples, plums peaches etc and persisted until shortly after WW2, when a shortage of post-war labour saw most revert back to pastoral land. Sadly, in many other areas the soldier settler scheme was unsuccessful for a variety of reasons including - too small, land too poor a quality, lack of capital, lack of farming skills and technical support. 

Nearby to me lives the Australian (and world) guru for the Russian Ural (sidecar) motorcycles, Most will know that after WW2 Russia shipped back to Russia the German BMW motorcycle/sidecar manufacturing plant and thus the Rual was born. In more recent times ownership and much of th manufacturing has moved to the USA, resulting in decent brakes, EFI and more power and reliability. The sidecar bodies however are still made in Russia and imported to the USA for assembly. The Chinese also make a WW2 BMW sidecar clone - I presume at some time in the past a deal was made between the USSR and China. The Chinese jobs look rougher the the Russian ones.

    

DadofHedgehog

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@Dai wrote:I'm gonna bite. Which bit of Kentucky? I spent a year in Pikeville as a scholarship pupil at Pikeville College (now Pikeville U, I believe). What you guys call a 'returner' as I was in my early 40s at the time.
Louisville, of course. The rest is just farmland ;-)


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PRESENT:
1995 K75T.  I am the 3d owner.  Bought it in June 2019 with 6,242 miles on the odo.
1991 K100RS 4-valve attached to a 1990 Flexit sidecar. I am at least the 3d owner. Bought with 21,00+ miles on bike's odo.

PAST:
old (indeterminate age) Ural + sidecar
1997 Buell S3T Thunderbolt
1982 BMW R100CS
1974 Kawasaki KZ400
1970 Suzuki Titan
    

Dai

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240 miles west, 90 miles to get out of the mountains and the full length of the Daniel Boone Parkway. Penniless students - stuff all you can get at the Chinese for $4 a head on the western outskirts of Louisville (don't remember its name but it was almost next door to a Toxic Hell - bleurgh) and then don't need to eat for the rest of the day. Spent quite a few weekends on a trailer site next to Otter Creek in Meade County. Didn't need to go fishin' in the creek; one of my college friends had a pond the size of a small lake at the bottom of the yard.


Good times, good memories. The only time in my life when I had absolutely no other responsibilities whatsoever beyond getting the highest grades I could. 3.8 GPA before you ask; that pissed me off because I was aiming for a 4.0 but circumstances beyond my control etc., mostly in the form of a huge snowstorm that trapped me on Boston Logan airport for a bloody week.

Ah well - another thread well and truly hijacked! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil


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1983 K100 upgraded to K100RS spec, 1987 K100RT
Others...
1978 Moto Guzzi 850-T3, 1979 Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California,1993 Moto Guzzi 1100ie California
2020 Royal Enfield Bullet 500
    

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