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charlie99

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newly arrived ,
what i thought could have been a low kilometer 87 or 88 motor , turned out to be an 85 

my ocd will have me pulling it apart for checking all sorts of things , including induction path flow smoothing yet again and sump paint removal .

ill try to find locally available valve stem seals this time , it shouldnt be too hard should it ?, at about 1/4 the price 

 many thanks to Tom and Waz 

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I actually understand the OCD bit. I've never done it with a brick engine (yet), but every Moto Guzzi that has passed through my hands has had the engine gutted for checking.


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Charlie, are at it again? Do you know what the cause is? Maybe KKKKKK pox?


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4Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:34 am

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not sure of the cause Stan , at all , but must be some thing like the cheezy grin on ones face coming up the local mountain from Jackadgery without pushing too hard and arriving at the top of the hill a lot of minutes before those more modern cruiser mob even come into earshot ,  i think to my self even if the technology is 40 years old , it still does a brilliant job .

so looking for suggestions for valve stem seals , i guess ill contact the local engine reconditioning guys at Inverell for advice ? they should have a dimensions list available ?

it isnt too hard to do with the brick at all Dai , once the head and bell housing are off , nothing much left to imagine ???   lol  maybe im just a sucker for time wasting ?

many would just ride it as it is  replacing the output - clutch seal and timing cover seal .


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

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@charlie99 wrote:not sure of the cause Stan , at all , but must be some thing like the cheezy grin on ones face coming up the local mountain from Jackadgery without pushing too hard and arriving at the top of the hill a lot of minutes before those more modern cruiser mob even come into earshot ,  i think to my self even if the technology is 40 years old , it still does a brilliant job .

so looking for suggestions for valve stem seals , i guess ill contact the local engine reconditioning guys at Inverell for advice ? they should have a dimensions list available ?

it isnt too hard to do with the brick at all Dai , once the head and bell housing are off , nothing much left to imagine ???   lol  maybe im just a sucker for time wasting ?

many would just ride it as it is  replacing the output - clutch seal and timing cover seal .
Retirement has its perks.
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Tom GKR

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Charlie, according to the info given to Rickmeister and I by the previous owner, that engine has covered about 11000km. Good luck with the resto. Cheers Tom


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7Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:29 am

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and so it begins , no rush at all with this one

removed the plenum , throttle bodies and mount rubbers so i could get in there a bit easier 

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and a little while later just armed with a toothbrush , degreaser and a rag , of corse a little elbow grease 


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thanks for the update Tom , marvellous stuff


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'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

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Hey Charlie, don't forget to tighten that alternator drive flange bolt when you put it back together  Shocked Embarassed 85 engine resto ? 44271


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yes , a bit sensitive about that one chris 

you wouldn't believe it , that bolt is already missing ....hahahahah


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

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S'funny, I've got a spare...


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so attacked the engine this morning for a near full parts pull down ,
quite astonished at the internal cleanliness of the assembly , i guess ive never seen the insides of a low kilometre engine before ...lol 
more or less done by 1.00pm , so a little cleaning inside the bores seemed appropriate .
someone had been inside the engine before me , as i noticed the newer impeller in the water pump housing and the different bolt into shaft  rather than nut on the shaft mounting options of the early models + blue silicon around the sump cover plate .
some interesting (concerning maybe ) issues on the small front bearing on the output shaft , as the torque on the large fixing bolts was way lower than i expected and signs of rotation of the small roller within the housing , guess id better change that regardless , and use locktite  to fasten it properly on rebuild.

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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

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pulled the valves on the head in preparation for a good clean up and perhaps some port modification - again 

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still some more cleanup to happen , but getting there


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

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and a little bit cleaner now , before we go inside ....

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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

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Where do you buy your elbow grease? Are they out of stock yet?


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Elbow Grease. Available at your local Handy,Army stores, Remember to state Left or Righthanded as per ,requirement  lol!


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Dai

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Elbow Grease and TMTOHH(*) working together.





* too much time on his hands. Bloody retirees. Gotta wait another four years yet. Humph. 85 engine resto ? 178468


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17Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:38 am

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@Dai wrote:Elbow Grease and TMTOHH(*) working together.





* too much time on his hands. Bloody retirees. Gotta wait another four years yet. Humph. 85 engine resto ? 178468
i havent officially retired yet Dai 

still on job seeker , + working voluntarily at the local "mens shed" 2 days a week , and doing odd jobs for many around the place for beer money  occasionally 

although i do have a retirees health card ...at long last 

the official retirement day is next march , just a little while to go


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

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Only 

  • 75,686,400 seconds

  • 1,261,440 minutes

  • 21,024 hours

  • 876 days

  • 125 weeks and 1 day


for me to go yet. But who's counting!?


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Not too long then mate at least its within sight


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

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Hit that pothole about 5 years ago and been self employed ever since. Busier now than i was when gainfully employed 85 engine resto ? 723598

    

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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

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so got a bit of time through the week to start on the engine covers , at this point just cutting back the corrosion and sandcast marks on the metalwork 
with a bit more to happen before im happy with it all and can add some good shine , but getting there , slowly


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

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first polish ...hmmm 

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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

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Looks awright, Chaz. What's it going underneath when you're done?


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How we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives. - Annie Dillard, author (b. 30 Apr 1945)
    

25Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:51 am

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i think its going to sit on the wooden block for a little while 

then going into Gerty , whilst i get the output shaft change over happening in the old girl 


then , who knows ?  

i think i would prefer the 85 motor to go into fred after that , as the 90 motor sure does use a lot of oil , i figure its to do with the pinned rings rather than anything else that i can think of .


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

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started on some head works , at least its progress 


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

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some port modifications , not really changing port dimensions but making more room for flow , which tested well with Gerty  showing a heap more flow  and seat of the pants power increase realisation , similar here . well why not ? while its apart.  grin !

this particular head casting is not too bad , compared with the one modified and on Gerty now . the area around the valve stem bushes was pretty good by comparison to some i have seen , and could well be the difference between perceived "better runners " than others , or the debate about soft cams , which were probably only installed to California and other markets ?

i think ive gained some 10 mm of breathing area , with a smoother outer radius for the most part on the inlet port  and likely some improvement on the supersonic outlet flow   

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more to come with some finishing - detailing now that the rough stuff has been done with the burr


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

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just matching inlet port to TB rubbers 

id better find some aftermarket valve stem seals before i go too far ....has anybody found any that fit correctly , without the motobins  etc price ?

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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

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Do these things actually have them? LOL.

Seriously, they must be a standard part. I've never replaced any, but I'll pull one off a scrap head and measure it up and see what's out there.


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that would be great Chris 

please let me know if you find a common part 

i need to get over to the regional engine reconditioning expert , a few kilometres off , in the car with the parts to hand to measure up 

but end up travelling there by bike ....just for the ride ..lol  

but brought back yesterday , bearings for a gearbox rebuild and stainless screws for sump strip off and refit , after its been sandblasted , all that black stuff off 

still need a few seals for that process , yet 


and hopefully someone doing an overseas order in the coming months for a head gasket , with shared mail costs ????


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'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

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Charlie as per Chris probably common to a few vehicles. If you know the sizes try Felpro.    https://www.felpro.com/technical/tecblogs/valve-stem-seals.html  There are others who do Teflon and Viton seals, your local engine builder should have aftermarket  parts books converting sizes to part numbers. Bribery in an alcoholic form might be needed.
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@charlie99 wrote:
and hopefully someone doing an overseas order in the coming months for a head gasket , with shared mail costs ????

Sorry Charlie, as I have a Motobins order in transit as we speak for which I did hang off ordering for a while.  

If I had known a week earlier .....  affraid


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Thought I'd have a squiz at what's on offer from BMW here in Los Estados, and found head gasket part number 11 12 1 464 641 to be non-stocked in the US, but plenty in Germany,  and selling for US$73.97 plus tax.

That makes the 'Bins version at US$31.00 a Very Good Deal.
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1970 R60/5, OZ '77 R75/7-R100, '85 K100'87 K75C, OZ '87 K100RS, '93 K11-K12 Big Block, '93 K1100RS, '95 R100-Mystic, '96 K1100RS, '98 K1200RS, '00 K1200RS, '02 K1200RS, '03 K1200GT, '04 R1150R'04 R1150RT, '05 K1200S, '06 K1200R, '07 K1200R, '09 K1300GT & 2013 R1200RT-Polizei  - Beemers owned still or sold.

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@Two Wheels Better wrote:Thought I'd have a squiz at what's on offer from BMW here in Los Estados, and found head gasket part number 11 12 1 464 641 to be non-stocked in the US, but plenty in Germany,  and selling for US$73.97 plus tax.

That makes the 'Bins version at US$31.00 a Very Good Deal.
cheers
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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

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@TacKler wrote:
@charlie99 wrote:
and hopefully someone doing an overseas order in the coming months for a head gasket , with shared mail costs ????

Sorry Charlie, as I have a Motobins order in transit as we speak for which I did hang off ordering for a while.  

If I had known a week earlier .....  affraid
its just a luck thing sometimes Dave 

thanks for the thoughts mate 

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a spot of polish to the bell housing , not that i have seen many been done like this before ... hmm not too bad  , clear coat should help it stay clean at least but not as shiny , to do 


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Removed a valve seal and it's a standard form, measurements are:
Valve stem dia: 6.98mm
Valve guide dia: 9.4mm
Height of valve seal: 10mm ish

Googling so far, the 'standard' valve seal fitted to BeeEmm cages around that era is listed as 7x10x10. So two of the dimensions are right!

Still looking.... Smile


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funny you should say that , was just talking to rickg on the phone , he seemed to think that there may be similarities across the marque as well 
which makes perfect sense 

um just an observation , that 9.4 stem mount width  could well be a 10mm with the spring action reducing the diameter , from what i remember from fitting new ones  , some 6 years or so ago ?

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Mornin'/Evenin, I have nowhere near your diligence when it comes to cleaning the ally casings - I get to the point where the metal is clean, but those black spots just won't come put. I stop short of removing metal. You've mentioned clearcoat in your previous post - have you tried the Rub N Buff wax? It's a proper wax, but with (I guess) aluminium or something paste in there too. It covers -my- black spots easily, but the advantage is that its a protective wax too, and you can redo it as much as you like. Not that it really needs redoing - it seems very durable once its on.


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yes iv read about it , never seen it in operation , to my knowledge , but likely a show bike owners best friend  and trade secret .

i dont think i have seen it advertised widely at all out here 

if you have a link to the product , could be worth investigating for sure 


to me if the item is not going to be subject to direct stone chips etc off the road , best to seal the finish , long term  will likely need repaint  but keeps it fresh  and a quick sudsy wash usually cleans it all down after a wet event and road grime all over .
the really shiny side covers benefit from that canubia (sp)  wax stuff very well .


thanks for the heads up again chris


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I'm thinking Elring part 701.289 It's fitted to a gazillion cars, including all the BeeEmms from that era. I can order them cheap as chips over here, and try them for size. Or can you get hold of them cheaply in the 'erm, colony?

(I'm not laughing - we have brexit, and we're heading for the third world, maybe the fourth world)


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...collecting one today, still a stock item here in the technological/social/economic backwater of good old Baaarnsley!


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Elring 701.289 is a perfect fit. Catalogue size is 7mm (nominal) bore/valve stem x 9.8mm bore/valve guide tip.

My mistake earlier - when measuring the valve guide tip (still in the head) I didn't spot the smaller dia section that I measured by mistake.

They're as cheap as 67 english pence over here - do you want some sending?


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wow chris !!

thanks for looking

ill investigate the local sources first , thanks for the offer , just trying to limit the postage costs that have ballooned in the last few years

cheers mate


i wonder if this should make the forum suggested parts substitution pages ??

ever so grateful for your efforts


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Hi Charlie - check your PMs  Smile


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cheers Chris , appreciated indeed 

some sump works 

sand blasted all that black stuff off 


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then cleaned up somewhat , just waiting to get some clear coat in the coming weeks ?


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Okay, I've had enough. Will you please explain how you manage to clean inside the sight glass  scratch


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easy answer , i don't know chris ...lol 


but  a bit more work today 


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'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
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I love this thread.

I have an 83 engine here and been planning a job on my shed......you are giving me ideas.....could be a nice project!!!! 

Also, I have seen 2 Ks that are 87 and have 85 engines in them from new.


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hi Olaf 

yes if you take your time , as we have said many times , big boys meccano , they are super easy to work on in many respects 


re the 85 in 87 bikes , could this be that they were imported some time before being sold or at least put on the showroom floor ,  at all ???

and some very welcome news , at last, received your fantastic pudding in the mail last week , yippeee !!!  


i guess i best find the local k bike folks to share it with , in the near future 


thanks so much for the effort mate 

really surprised me .


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