BMW K bikes (Bricks)

You are not connected. Please login or register

Go to page : Previous  1, 2

View previous topic View next topic Go down  Message [Page 2 of 2]


51Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:15 pm

charlie99


VIP
VIP
hi Olaf 

yes if you take your time , as we have said many times , big boys meccano , they are super easy to work on in many respects 


re the 85 in 87 bikes , could this be that they were imported some time before being sold or at least put on the showroom floor ,  at all ???

and some very welcome news , at last, received your fantastic pudding in the mail last week , yippeee !!!  


i guess i best find the local k bike folks to share it with , in the near future 


thanks so much for the effort mate 

really surprised me .

    

52Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:57 am

charlie99

charlie99
VIP
VIP
whilst at work today (volunteering at the local "mens shed " ) (a group of old farts with nothing much else to do in their day, but to offer learned skills and banter to an aged retiree crew , for the benefit of locals  , in my local and many others , woodworking is still a skill and there are many projects - repairs to worthy items that many homeowners just cant do ) ) 
 
 
fact is the computer driving the cnc router that they had purchased for making place and property signs was rather suspect , later died , as they do , and i was roped in to asses the whole situation and offer some help ...meaning i was asked to repair the computer , and locate the software for driving the machine ...and all that stuff , given that the seller of the goods - machine was no longer interested at all in the organisation .
 
 I repaired and reinstalled the design software , as no one else there claimed to have any "puter skills "  ,(( i should have kept my mouth shut  ))) 
 
with a cheap piece of pine out of the cut off box and newly found cnc router skills i thought to start the design for Freds tank badge 
 
i could have photographed the real bmw logo - roundell and imported it directly to the design software for the router  
 
but i thought to make it different enough to not draw attention from those who must be obeyed (and good solicitors ) 
 
so this is my first attempt at making something that hopefully in the future will develop into a nice and personalised bit of bling ?
 
the aim is to reverse what you see in this iteration so that I can get red enamel into the larger area of the roundel , with aluminium highlights on the perimeters , and a whole lot smaller …
 
actually I started off making the design in a 69mm format , easily cropped and expanded to make this sign out of scrap wood from the bin
 
hey it’s a first attempt …
 
and here it is ….
 
85 engine resto ? - Page 2 20210313


__________________________________________________
cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

53Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:02 pm

Stan

Stan
Life time member
Life time member
That is great Charlie, master in metal and now wood. 85 engine resto ? - Page 2 212902


__________________________________________________
1983 K100 basic vin 0003960 colour red  GONE
1987 K100RT vin 0094685 colour, orange peel, sorry, pearl..GONE
F800R black
    

54Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:39 pm

RicK G

RicK G
admin
admin
That could also read Ride Rally Recover


__________________________________________________
"Man sacrifices his health in order to make money.
Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health.
And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived."   Dalai Lama


Bikes 1998 K1100 LT, 1993 K75 RT, 1996 K75RT, 1986 K75 GS, 1979 Z1300 Kawasaki
    

55Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:01 pm

Dai

Dai
Life time member
Life time member
Or Ride, Rally, Reurgh!!!!  affraid 85 engine resto ? - Page 2 44271


__________________________________________________
1983 K100 upgraded to K100RS spec, 1987 K100RT
Others...
1978 Moto Guzzi 850-T3, 1979 Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California,1993 Moto Guzzi 1100ie California
2020 Royal Enfield Bullet 500
    

56Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:54 pm

charlie99

charlie99
VIP
VIP
lol   thanks guys   85 engine resto ? - Page 2 44271



a bit more today 
going back together in the nether regions 


85 engine resto ? - Page 2 20210314


85 engine resto ? - Page 2 20210315


85 engine resto ? - Page 2 20210316


still to find a seal or two and remove the gasket goo around the joints i guess


__________________________________________________
cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

57Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:35 pm

charlie99

charlie99
VIP
VIP
thought i would move the block off the bench and onto the Gerty block 
and install the crank cover at least , just a couple of screws holding the timing cover on till i can get the head complete 


85 engine resto ? - Page 2 20210317


85 engine resto ? - Page 2 20210318



85 engine resto ? - Page 2 20210319


__________________________________________________
cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

58Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:56 am

charlie99

charlie99
VIP
VIP
a cute package arrived from Blighty , inside something to get ahead on the project , with many thanks Chris 

85 engine resto ? - Page 2 20210320


with the valve stem seals now in hand the old ones came out 

85 engine resto ? - Page 2 20210321


a bit of paste to make the seat meet valve better 


85 engine resto ? - Page 2 20210322


and hopefully assembly in the coming days


__________________________________________________
cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

59Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:06 pm

charlie99

charlie99
VIP
VIP
yipeee ! last set of collets installed (these shakey hands have an issue )


85 engine resto ? - Page 2 20210323


and some shim measurements before assembly 


85 engine resto ? - Page 2 20210324


__________________________________________________
cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

60Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:20 pm

92KK 84WW Olaf

avatar
Life time member
Life time member
@charlie99 wrote:hi Olaf 

yes if you take your time , as we have said many times , big boys meccano , they are super easy to work on in many respects 


re the 85 in 87 bikes , could this be that they were imported some time before being sold or at least put on the showroom floor ,  at all ???

and some very welcome news , at last, received your fantastic pudding in the mail last week , yippeee !!!  


i guess i best find the local k bike folks to share it with , in the near future 


thanks so much for the effort mate 

really surprised me .
I missed this post and had been curious as to the matter of missing puddings. considering I had all posted in time for Christmas, next time I must ask when that say the latest posting times is it for the upcoming Christmas or the following one. They all got stuck in the Brexit hold up in UK, they all travel through London. 

I thought it might be nice to surprise you. Anyway it should have travelled fine and just needs to be heated up a bit. Some nice lightly whipped cream on top. You can open it and pour a little brandy or whiskey over it.

As for the 2 year old engines, I have seen this before and its strange. Oddly, my frame on my 84 RT started as an RS then got changed and renumbered at the factory as an RT.


__________________________________________________
1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011171 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 37,190 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 42,640 miles.

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

61Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:50 am

Suzi Q

Suzi Q
Life time member
Life time member
Ref. shakey hands, I use a small magnetic pickup tool to manouver the collets. Still can't see what I'm doing and it takes ages, but at least I'm not on my hands and knees looking for them. These days, when I have to get down on the floor to pick something up, I think, 'is there anything else needs doing whilst I'm down here?'

Putting the head on: do you do it by TDC or do you 50/50 the two highest pistons and cross your fingers?


__________________________________________________
Sometimes I'm not really Suzi Quatro.
    

62Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:35 am

charlie99

charlie99
VIP
VIP
chris846 wrote:Ref. shakey hands, I use a small magnetic pickup tool to manouver the collets. Still can't see what I'm doing and it takes ages, but at least I'm not on my hands and knees looking for them. These days, when I have to get down on the floor to pick something up, I think, 'is there anything else needs doing whilst I'm down here?'

Putting the head on: do you do it by TDC or do you 50/50 the two highest pistons and cross your fingers?
 chris, i use small pick tool to manouver the collet  , if it falls in too deep ii use a slightly magnetic screw driver to fish it out , i say slightly because often a magnet will also stick to the valve and everything else nearby , confusing the whole process , and some times partially magnetising the collet , which is a real pain ,

usually i back off the pistons to verticle on the crank mark , meaning they, are as you say 50 50 up the bore ,  once i get the cams in i wind back to the horizontal on the crank with the cams set at pointing up , ready to fix the chain onto them , by wrapping round both cam s , with the bottom one located and partially bolted up , the top  one loose on the bolt , but located correctly , the cam chain tensioner cable-tied closed ,and the inlet cam held by a shifter in the correct location , and ease the top cam wheel onto the cam whilst winding the crank to get a little more stretch for the cam wheel to locate , then  bolt up , and set the tensioner loose .... after everything is lined up and bolted


__________________________________________________
cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

63Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Sat Mar 20, 2021 12:05 am

charlie99

charlie99
VIP
VIP
installing cam gear 

85 engine resto ? - Page 2 20210325


85 engine resto ? - Page 2 20210326


85 engine resto ? - Page 2 20210327


__________________________________________________
cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

64Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:16 am

charlie99

charlie99
VIP
VIP
and a little while later 

85 engine resto ? - Page 2 20210328



85 engine resto ? - Page 2 20210329



85 engine resto ? - Page 2 20210330


hall effects to go in, water pipe and a few bolts to find ,,,,   soon


__________________________________________________
cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

65Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:02 am

Waz

Waz
Life time member
Life time member
Looking good Charlie


__________________________________________________
1988 K100 RS
1999 K1200 RS
1987 K100RS DJP sidecar
    

66Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:29 am

Point-Seven-five

Point-Seven-five
Life time member
Life time member
Charlie, are you sure you aren't a closet Harley guy?


__________________________________________________
Present:
1994 K75RT
1991 K100RS
1988 K100RS SE

Past:
1994 BMW K75S
1992 BMW K100RS
1982 Honda FT500
1979 Honda XR185
1977 Honda XL125
1974 Honda XL125
1972 OSSA Pioneer 250
1968 Kawasaki 175
    

67Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:28 am

charlie99

charlie99
VIP
VIP
seeing im getting up into the topend bits and pieces 

thought to do a little bling to the fuel rail (injectors are still to be rebuilt ) 
but to get an idea of the plan huh ?

85 engine resto ? - Page 2 20210331


85 engine resto ? - Page 2 20210332


__________________________________________________
cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

68Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Sat Apr 24, 2021 5:11 am

charlie99

charlie99
VIP
VIP
just an update ,

have been waiting for a while to get some clear coat , so i could cover some stripped metal work and repainted parts 

now going ahead 

85 engine resto ? - Page 2 20210413

85 engine resto ? - Page 2 20210414


as an asside had a few visitors heading north to the Cane toad Rally   a bit north of here , this last few days , unfortunately cant make this one , sadly 

perhaps we'll catch up again next month , heading south to rosscos celebration


__________________________________________________
cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

69Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:41 pm

charlie99

charlie99
VIP
VIP
hmm recent events have changed the plan for the 85 k100 motor

some knocking sounds from fred had me worried , found a scored big end shell on number 2 , ( i guess some gunk found its way up through the oil paths and deposited stuff in there a while ago ), in addition to the vacuum line to the fpr had collapsed with noticeable fractures along its length  causing an unsteady idle .  

oh well , here we go 

85 engine resto ? - Page 2 20210415


85 engine resto ? - Page 2 20210416


__________________________________________________
cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

70Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Sat May 01, 2021 11:27 pm

charlie99

charlie99
VIP
VIP
nearing completion and almost ready for install to Fred 

plan is to update the crank and pistons to non pinned type rings on the 90 motor , but ill take time to do that , no big rush indeed ,  just a shame i cant get Gerty done quite so soon 


85 engine resto ? - Page 2 20210510

85 engine resto ? - Page 2 20210511

85 engine resto ? - Page 2 20210512


__________________________________________________
cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

71Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Sun May 02, 2021 3:54 am

Suzi Q

Suzi Q
Life time member
Life time member
Why the 'update' to non pinned?  scratch


__________________________________________________
Sometimes I'm not really Suzi Quatro.
    

72Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Sun May 02, 2021 3:56 am

charlie99

charlie99
VIP
VIP
a little while later 

85 engine resto ? - Page 2 20210513

85 engine resto ? - Page 2 20210514

best way is with 2 people to put the frame on the motor 

but as needs must , can be done by yourself , just some juggling to do eh ?


__________________________________________________
cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

73Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Sun May 02, 2021 4:02 am

charlie99

charlie99
VIP
VIP
@Suzi Q wrote:Why the 'update' to non pinned?  scratch

just that i had noticed and now experienced the high oil consumption of these types , not that it is usual but definitely much more than the non pinned version

gerty and others 5000 k and not a drop to add , the 90 motor  a litre every 500 - 1000 k  at least 

just makes for another thing to check regularly , yes little smoke after sidestand starts  , but jeepers  i can do without the added expense - stain on the exhaust rear end etc


__________________________________________________
cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

74Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Sun May 02, 2021 4:06 am

Suzi Q

Suzi Q
Life time member
Life time member
85 engine resto ? - Page 2 112350


__________________________________________________
Sometimes I'm not really Suzi Quatro.
    

75Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Mon May 03, 2021 4:37 am

charlie99

charlie99
VIP
VIP
nearly there 

85 engine resto ? - Page 2 20210515

85 engine resto ? - Page 2 20210516


__________________________________________________
cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

76Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Mon May 03, 2021 11:10 am

Suzi Q

Suzi Q
Life time member
Life time member
Nice touch with the exhaust heatshield - first time I've ever looked at the OE exhaust and thought it looked good!


__________________________________________________
Sometimes I'm not really Suzi Quatro.
    

77Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Wed May 05, 2021 11:37 am

charlie99

charlie99
VIP
VIP
well it actually runs , and seems like a nice engine 

noted when trying to do a tb balence that i have some valve clearances to fudge up a little wider , losing vacuum as heat climbs on a couple of cylinders 

more to come


__________________________________________________
cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

78Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Wed May 05, 2021 4:13 pm

MartinW

MartinW
Life time member
Life time member
85 engine resto ? - Page 2 112350


__________________________________________________
K75s Hybrid
    

79Back to top Go down   85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Empty Re: 85 engine resto ? Tue May 18, 2021 1:14 am

charlie99

charlie99
VIP
VIP
all back together again
had some cooling fluid disappearing somewhere , so full pull down to head gasket tighten and rebuild the valve - timing area , and swapped out the water pump

seems to be running nicely now

just about ready for the trip south


85 engine resto ? - Page 2 20210517


__________________________________________________
cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O85 engine resto ? - Page 2 Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

View previous topic View next topic Back to top  Message [Page 2 of 2]

Go to page : Previous  1, 2

Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum