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1Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty New 87 K100RT owner. Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:56 pm

lomcevok

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Have been given an '87 K100RT - parked in dry storage at high altitude for 20+ years.

Was told it was dropped and parked - but found a bunch of "monkeywork" not completed, so have now gotten it running reasonably.  

The bike has the adjustable windshield, but the lowers, radiator surround, intake tubing, side covers are all missing, mirror broken, etc.

But!  It only has 21k miles or so.  Dirty injectors, total mess in the tank (new pump and all plumbing and a serious cleanout), missing tank connectors and burned up fuel level sender.  

Not sure what else I'll find, but I rode it after changing all fluids and lubing the rear drive splines. Did just fine (just big!)

Got some saddlebags recently, not sure what'll be next.  

Bill

    

2Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty Re: New 87 K100RT owner. Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:52 am

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Welcome Bill Smile


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3Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty Re: New 87 K100RT owner. Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:12 pm

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Bill New 87 K100RT owner.   177912 

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4Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty Re: New 87 K100RT owner. Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:01 pm

Shep

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Welcome to the forum.
Be aware when buying replacement parts that not all of them are identical through the 84 to 87 models.


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Model        Production Date/Serial Number
K100RS      1984 July/ (F0040448)
K100RS      1986 Dec/ (H0142581)
    

5Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty Rode It! (Road it?) Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:32 am

lomcevok

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Got my "new to me", "20 year barn find" 87 K100 RT up and going.  Took it to 80mph, smooth as glass, but that was "enough".

Usual troubles - dissolved in-tank pump mount, dead pump, crunchy lines, clogged injectors, removed (failed) tank electrical connector, fried fuel level sender.  (prior owner seemed a bit ham fisted).  Final tweak was removal of the high-altitude jumper bike was brought from Colorado - to the Carolinas... Idle settled right down.  

Couple of questions for the group:

1). Fuel pressure.  Currently have a pressure gauge in the line.  Bike runs as it should despite pressure fluctuating +/- 10% (needle wiggling).  When shut off, it drops rapidly to zero.  Should the pressure drop immediately or remain up for a bit?  How long is "a bit"?  My suspicion is a dodgy FP regulator.  Thoughts?

2). Later model fairing retrofitted?   This bike was owned by the owner of a BMW dealership.  Appears to have electric windscreen from 1990 or later added and rubberized "wings" that mount to the outside edges of the RT fairing.  Is this fairing an add-on or was it offered as option on the 87 K100RT?

3). What next?  Missing a few bits - lowers on fairing, knee pads, etc.  Should I: buy up parts and go back to full RT fairing? Or try to build out "bare bike" (I like the look) but the parts are hard to find.  I could look for an RS fairing, but they seem hard to find also.  I won't cafe it.  Thoughts?

Thanks in advance.  BTW, may be selling this now that it's running well - (I want K75 - smaller/smoother bike).  This one has only about 22k miles on it.

Bill

    

6Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty Re: New 87 K100RT owner. Sun Oct 17, 2021 10:57 am

Point-Seven-five

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Have you cleaned the fuel injectors?  A sticky injector will let fuel leak out of the rail when the engine is shut down, dropping the pressure faster.  On my bikes the pressure can take anywhere from 2-3 seconds to 10 seconds or more to drop to zero.

What is your fuel pressure?  Should be around 35psi.  A little wiggling of the needle at idle wouldn't concern me if the engine was running smoothly, the vacuum connection to the regulator could be causing a little bit of pressure instability.  Check the vacuum on the cylinder #4 throttle body at idle.  I'll bet that the needle on the vacuum gauge is bouncing around like the fuel pressure.

Fairing parts should be pretty easy to find with all the K bikes being hacked up these days.  You should be able to find everything you need on eBay.  If you want to do a RS fairing, I have most of the parts for an 1100 RS fairing like the one in my avatar that I might want to get rid of.  If you want them I could probably bring them down to North Carolina on a visit to my daughter who live outside of Charlotte.


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Present:
1994 K75RT
1991 K100RS


Past:
1988 K100RS SE
1994 BMW K75S
1992 BMW K100RS
1982 Honda FT500
1979 Honda XR185
1977 Honda XL125
1974 Honda XL125
1972 OSSA Pioneer 250
1968 Kawasaki 175
    

7Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty Re: New 87 K100RT owner. Sun Oct 17, 2021 1:10 pm

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Hi Bill, the 75s are only a handful of Kilos lighter, ride Hight ect are the same,I ride both and dont find much difference with smoothness, You might find it difficult to find another as good as you have,Mabe a good think is in order before you make the decision scratch scratch New 87 K100RT owner.   112350 Why stop at80 mph,or were you still in 3rd gear New 87 K100RT owner.   447221 New 87 K100RT owner.   447221


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8Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty Why only 80 mph? Sun Oct 17, 2021 3:55 pm

lomcevok

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moriarti wrote:... Why stop at80 mph,or were you still in 3rd gear New 87 K100RT owner.   447221 New 87 K100RT owner.   447221

 Moriarity, why not more than 80?  

Well, to be perfectly honest, I chickened out.  No shame in admitting it.

First, the tires are old (my factual reason)

Second, I rode my hip bone across a parking lot many years ago (my emotional reason).  I remember thinking in the 100 ms. after the bars went slack and before impact "this is gonna smart..." and it did.  

[Subsequently, I promised to give up bikes and raised my family... and yet here I am...  Twisted Evil  ]

I intend to sort this scoot out slowly, and enjoy it as a "round towner" before I go racing about, until which, I'll live vicariously in the forums...

Bill

    

9Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty Re: New 87 K100RT owner. Sun Oct 17, 2021 4:02 pm

lomcevok

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Point-Seven-five wrote:Have you cleaned the fuel injectors?...

... 2-3 seconds to 10 seconds or more to drop to zero.

...35psi.  ...

Fairing parts ...


Injectors are cleaned and squirting evenly.  

Pressure drops to zero in zero.zero seconds.  New regulator ordered.

I'm above 35 PSI - we'll see what the regulator does.

Re Fairing parts, now that's something to think about... [and I will!].

I have another RS fairing (period correct) and am taking a look at it as well.  

Thanks for the inputs.  Sounds like I'm going to get this whipped.

Bill

    

10Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty Re: New 87 K100RT owner. Sun Oct 17, 2021 5:01 pm

Point-Seven-five

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Are all the hose clamps in the fuel tank snug so there are no leaks at the fuel pump or filter?  You would not be the first one to have a leaky hose connection at the filter.


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Present:
1994 K75RT
1991 K100RS


Past:
1988 K100RS SE
1994 BMW K75S
1992 BMW K100RS
1982 Honda FT500
1979 Honda XR185
1977 Honda XL125
1974 Honda XL125
1972 OSSA Pioneer 250
1968 Kawasaki 175
    

11Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty leaks! Sun Oct 17, 2021 5:18 pm

lomcevok

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Point-Seven-five wrote:... leaks at the fuel pump or filter? ... 

Haven't checked that yet.  Good idea!

Bill

    

12Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty Re: New 87 K100RT owner. Sun Oct 17, 2021 5:39 pm

moriarti

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lomcevok wrote:
moriarti wrote:... Why stop at80 mph,or were you still in 3rd gear New 87 K100RT owner.   447221 New 87 K100RT owner.   447221

 Moriarity, why not more than 80?  

Well, to be perfectly honest, I chickened out.  No shame in admitting it.

First, the tires are old (my factual reason)

Second, I rode my hip bone across a parking lot many years ago (my emotional reason).  I remember thinking in the 100 ms. after the bars went slack and before impact "this is gonna smart..." and it did.  

[Subsequently, I promised to give up bikes and raised my family... and yet here I am...    ]

I intend to sort this scoot out slowly, and enjoy it as a "round towner" before I go racing about, until which, I'll live vicariously in the forums...

Bill    BRAVO explanations accepted Very Happy Very Happy


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13Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty K100rt Sun Oct 17, 2021 5:57 pm

daveyson

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Another slim possibility. There's a one way valve in the output of the fuel pump to maintain pressure at shutdown. If some gunk gets in fuel might back out the pump at shutdown.

Have you got a photo of the rubber wings?


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14Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty Re: New 87 K100RT owner. Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:33 pm

Shep

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lomcevok wrote:
moriarti wrote:... Why stop at80 mph,or were you still in 3rd gear New 87 K100RT owner.   447221 New 87 K100RT owner.   447221

 Moriarity, why not more than 80?  

Well, to be perfectly honest, I chickened out.  No shame in admitting it.

First, the tires are old (my factual reason)

Second, I rode my hip bone across a parking lot many years ago (my emotional reason).  I remember thinking in the 100 ms. after the bars went slack and before impact "this is gonna smart..." and it did.  

[Subsequently, I promised to give up bikes and raised my family... and yet here I am...    ]

I intend to sort this scoot out slowly, and enjoy it as a "round towner" before I go racing about, until which, I'll live vicariously in the forums...

Bill
 Really like your answer. Been there and agree as, "I have also chickened out in the last few years".



Last edited by Shep on Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:35 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Too many "Is".)


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Model        Production Date/Serial Number
K100RS      1984 July/ (F0040448)
K100RS      1986 Dec/ (H0142581)
    

15Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty Photo of "Wingy Thingies" Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:52 pm

lomcevok

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daveyson wrote:... one way valve ...

... photo of the rubber wings?

Yep could be the valve.  More likely, crap went downstream into the reg.  Someone tried to get this running sometime in the last 20 years and smoked a couple of wires to the tank.  Guessing they managed to pump gunk into the rail and nether regions beyond.  Will do the reg and try that.

I have a photo here of the "wings" - haven't seen them elsewhere.  The electric bugscreen is a clue that the original owner, who owned a dealership, may have brought these parts to this bike from a later model.

bill

"Wingy Thingies":

New 87 K100RT owner.   032599e6-ef49-486e-b9d4-978ed0c17035

    

16Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty Re: New 87 K100RT owner. Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:51 pm

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I can't see the photo of the fairing vent wings but I'm pretty sure they are off of a K100LT (1986+).  I have them on my '85 K100RT and I'm sure they were a later add on.New 87 K100RT owner.   K100rt12 Twisted Evil


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17Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty Trying again on the fairing photo Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:16 pm

lomcevok

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Here's another go at the pic.  This time as a .pdf.

http://forum.kforum-tech.com/members-upload/uploads/My_'87_K100.pdf

    

18Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty Re: New 87 K100RT owner. Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:18 pm

lomcevok

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Woodie wrote:... pretty sure they are off of a K100LT 

I uploaded a photo here: My_'87_K100.pdf

The black rubber surrounds the mirrors and goes all the way to the end of the fairing.  It has recess in the end, like it continued down the lowers as well.  I've not seen this anywhere else.  Also, the electric windscreen suggests something in the 89-93 range...  Agree, probably a dress-up option on the LT.

Bill

p.s. I like yours and Jims with the white.  Either white, or maybe Baja "yes, I mean really, really, really RED" ... red.

    

19Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty K100 rt Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:41 pm

daveyson

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Hopefully the previous owner removed the lower panels for easier services and still has them, cause they're half of a special kit, or maybe there's some ID on them somewhere.


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20Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty Re: New 87 K100RT owner. Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:42 am

Dai

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Dunno why, but the aging memory cells say that was a Luftmeister kit. Someone else, somewhere on here posted a similar picture.


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21Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty Re: New 87 K100RT owner. Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:48 am

lomcevok

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daveyson wrote:Hopefully the previous owner removed the lower panels for easier services and still has them, cause they're half of a special kit, or maybe there's some ID on them somewhere.

Unfortunately, the person who removed them is long gone... No idea where the lowers wound up.  Bummer.

I can't find anything on the Luftmeister "wings" - but it looks very well made, like factory?  The combination with the electric windshield from a 9x K1100 makes for a really nice ride.

Bill

    

22Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty Re: New 87 K100RT owner. Sun Dec 26, 2021 8:57 am

lomcevok

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Point-Seven-five wrote:Are all the hose clamps in the fuel tank snug so there are no leaks at the fuel pump or filter?  You would not be the first one to have a leaky hose connection at the filter.
Point-Seven-Five:

Happy to report that replacing the fuel pressure regulator fixed it all up.  I cross-referenced, found the right pressure and mount, put it in, and voila.  Bike runs great.

Bill

    

23Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty Re: New 87 K100RT owner. Sun Dec 26, 2021 9:11 am

lomcevok

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lomcevok wrote:
daveyson wrote:... one way valve ...

... photo of the rubber wings?


"Wingy Thingies":

Trying again on the fairing "rubber wingy thingies"... 

Anyone recognize these?  The lowers are lost to time - will either remove these or find replacements..

Rubber-edged fairing freshly retrieved from 20+ years of storage

    

24Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty Re: New 87 K100RT owner. Sun Dec 26, 2021 9:16 am

lomcevok

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daveyson wrote:Hopefully the previous owner removed the lower panels for easier services and still has them, cause they're half of a special kit, or maybe there's some ID on them somewhere.

Daveyson,

Doesn't appear to be id on them anywhere - others have identified them as part of a "Luftmeister kit" - but Google, in it's all-knowing, doesn't know.

Good news is that I bought a nearly complete fairing with a straight mount, etc. off of eBay recently.  Missing only about 2 pieces.  Now to get her painted.

Bill

    

25Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty K100RS Barn Find Running... Sun Dec 26, 2021 9:18 am

lomcevok

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lomcevok wrote:Have been given an '87 K100RT - parked in dry storage at high altitude for 20+ years.

Well, after a bunch of replacements - basically everything with the word "fuel" in it, pump, filter, injectors, regulator, hoses, etc., it runs like a singer sewing machine.  

Have been riding it a bit - and picking up parts for the original RT fairing - though some have offered RS fairings and I was sorely tempted, but...

This bike sure beats the heck out of my old Honda CX500 from 30 years ago (the last bike I owned).

Anyway, thanks, all for the suggestions.  When I move back to Colorado soon, I'm looking forward to some mountain riding, some cleaning, a lot of sanding and some painting.

Bill

    

26Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty Re: New 87 K100RT owner. Sun Dec 26, 2021 9:55 am

Point-Seven-five

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Sounds like you're well on your way to getting another old brick into great shape.  Miles and miles of great riding out where you are, the western Colorado mountains are one of my favorite places to ride.  Good luck on the restore!


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Present:
1994 K75RT
1991 K100RS


Past:
1988 K100RS SE
1994 BMW K75S
1992 BMW K100RS
1982 Honda FT500
1979 Honda XR185
1977 Honda XL125
1974 Honda XL125
1972 OSSA Pioneer 250
1968 Kawasaki 175
    

27Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty Re: New 87 K100RT owner. Sun Dec 26, 2021 9:57 am

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Point-Seven-five wrote:Sounds like you're well on your way to getting another old brick into great shape.  Miles and miles of great riding out where you are, the western Colorado mountains are one of my favorite places to ride.  Good luck on the restore!

Thanks, a bunch .75:

Also, your recent offer of the RS Fairing was generous, and appreciated.  I still like its looks of the RS, but also like things to be pretty original.  

I am, however, for paint thinking of a "clone" of the SE paint job - blue over white...  Thoughts?

Bill

    

28Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty Re: New 87 K100RT owner. Sun Dec 26, 2021 8:24 pm

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I like the blue and white special edition paint scheme.  The Bermuda blue of the BMW factory paint scheme is my favorite, but the Pearlmutt(mother of pearl) they used doesn't really do it anymore.  The gold tint in the mid coat makes the white look discolored and dirty, sort of like plastic that has turned yellow in the sun.  I think that part of the reason all the paints of the era used that gold tint was to hide the fact that the clear coats of the day either had a yellow cast to them or they had a tendency to yellow in the sun's ultraviolet.

When I did the bike in my avatar I used two late model Ford colors.  I picked Ford because the Mystic red on my K75RT was a very close match to Ford's Red Fire tricoat.  The blue is Ford Dark Blue Metallic which has a tiny bit of red/purple in it which makes it less of a true blue like the Bermuda blue.  When the two blues are put side by side the Bermuda blue looks so much better to me.

The white I used was Ford's Platinum White tricoat.  It has a bright silvery white with a nice depth and softness to edges.  If I was to do another "special edition" paint job, it would be the Platinum white with the Bermuda blue.


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Present:
1994 K75RT
1991 K100RS


Past:
1988 K100RS SE
1994 BMW K75S
1992 BMW K100RS
1982 Honda FT500
1979 Honda XR185
1977 Honda XL125
1974 Honda XL125
1972 OSSA Pioneer 250
1968 Kawasaki 175
    

29Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty Re: New 87 K100RT owner. Mon Dec 27, 2021 3:33 am

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Hi got you're PM, My K100RS was delivered as a Special Italian Edition. hence slitly different paint scheme.think its styled on BMW badge. Regards GaryNew 87 K100RT owner.   20191012
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30Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty Re: New 87 K100RT owner. Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:59 am

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Welcome.


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31Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty Paint! Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:12 am

lomcevok

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Thanks, Gary:

Didn't know it was styled on the logo, but that's good clue on the shades of blue and white "blau mit weiss" used.

Am contemplating what to squirt on my 100RT when I get all the parts all sanded and gorgeous...

However mine's an RT and that paint job existed only on RS bikes it would seem, so am "going slightly rogue"...  It's either blue/white SE paint or Marakesch Red...  (or Porsche Guards Red... perhaps).

Can't decide.  

Or just assemble the parts looking like a multi-colored quilt and ignore the disapproving looks!

Bill

    

32Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty Re: New 87 K100RT owner. Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:30 am

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Point-Seven-five wrote:I like the blue and white special edition paint scheme.  The Bermuda blue of the BMW factory paint scheme is my favorite, but the Pearlmutt(mother of pearl) they used doesn't really do it anymore.  

Interesting.  

User "poddy" suggests that the paint may be chosen to match the BMW logo.  Seems odd as the logo is not pearlescent.  

May go forward with an "RT-itized" version of the blue top layout.  Love it.  Or just get a few cans of Marakesch Red (or heck, Porsche Guards Red) and start squirting...  (er.... sanding.... and sanding... and sanding ... and eventually squirtring).

Bill

    

33Back to top Go down   New 87 K100RT owner.   Empty Re: New 87 K100RT owner. Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:57 am

lomcevok

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lomcevok wrote:
daveyson wrote:... one way valve ...

... photo of the rubber wings?

Yep could be the valve.  More likely, crap went downstream into the reg.  Someone tried to get this running sometime in the last 20 years and smoked a couple of wires to the tank.  Guessing they managed to pump gunk into the rail and nether regions beyond.  Will do the reg and try that.

I have a photo here of the "wings" - haven't seen them elsewhere.  The electric bugscreen is a clue that the original owner, who owned a dealership, may have brought these parts to this bike from a later model.

bill

"Wingy Thingies":

New 87 K100RT owner.   032599e6-ef49-486e-b9d4-978ed0c17035

Compliments of another user who has access to BMW records - 

The "Wingy Thingies" are part of the "comfort spoiler modification" offered by BMW.  I've seen it offered from 86 to 92 so far, on the K100 and K75s.  

And with that name in hand, Google turns up a BMW parts page for the kit parts.  

Parts diagram / pics here:  bmw comfort spoiler modification

And I think I found the parts I'm missing in Europe 188 euros each...  Ouch.

Bill

    

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