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1Back to top Go down   Oil on the Garage floor Empty Oil on the Garage floor on Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:52 pm

caferacer62

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Damn it went to leave for work this morning and was greeted with a large(500 x 300) puddle of oil on the floor.
Closer inspection seems to be coming out of the releif hole below the oil/water pump. Looks like an overhaul, but main problem is where to get the parts i need by the weekend. Only got the wifes car until tuesday as she needs it for work.
Hmmmm even if i order them from Munich i wont see the bits before monday.
Ahhh well all good fun apparently.


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bugga bert ....i would have given you mine ,,,,cept its already in ...the oil pump seal is easy ..its the water pump seal thats the tricky one .....

um just check your oil presure switch first mate ...verry close to the same point pop the rubber cap off


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GITH was getting some kits for me with his order from bins. If he has recieved them you can have one and replace it


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Bert, I've PM'd you.


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5Back to top Go down   Oil on the Garage floor Empty Re: Oil on the Garage floor on Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:43 pm

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i should be seeing gith tomorrow ...i can be transporter if it helps ...!!! (great offer rick )


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6Back to top Go down   Oil on the Garage floor Empty Re: Oil on the Garage floor on Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:08 pm

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I got my rebuild kit (and new impeller bolt) this arvo from the 'bins and I can get it to you after lunch on Saturday if you want it.


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7Back to top Go down   Oil on the Garage floor Empty Re: Oil on the Garage floor on Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:41 pm

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Thanks all for great offers of help, have just been talkin to Alby.
He has got a whole pump that i can use till i get parts for mine. Turns out by luck that he is coming down to Caboolture on friday night, so i am going to go and meet up with him there.
All i have to get is a couple of o rings. Might give GITH a call at his work tomorrow see if he has genuine in stock, if not should be able to get from BSC.
At least it gives me a bit of time to get parts and overhaul mine without having to rush.

Again thanks for all for the kind offers. Its what makes this forum so good.


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You guys are amazing up there, thats it I'm moving to Queensland not for the sunshine like everyone else in Victoria goes up for but just for the k bike support team.
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9Back to top Go down   Oil on the Garage floor Empty Re: Oil on the Garage floor on Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:16 am

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Could Queensland cope with all 1800 of us?


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10Back to top Go down   Oil on the Garage floor Empty Re: Oil on the Garage floor on Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:22 am

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Fantastic response Paul I think there going to need a few more tents at Albys


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11Back to top Go down   Oil on the Garage floor Empty Re: Oil on the Garage floor on Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:23 am

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What a excellent idea Paul, and then we rename it to Kueensland.


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12Back to top Go down   Oil on the Garage floor Empty Re: Oil on the Garage floor on Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:29 am

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I went out for tea last night and have just read this thread , WOW ... that was quick guys ! You had multiple parts supply options and transport solutions overnight , " I dips me lid ".

    

13Back to top Go down   Oil on the Garage floor Empty Re: Oil on the Garage floor on Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:51 am

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Really impressed with the way you people reacted to that.

    

14Back to top Go down   Oil on the Garage floor Empty Re: Oil on the Garage floor on Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:51 am

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Better service than DHL, Fed-Ex etc. Oil on the Garage floor 502531

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15Back to top Go down   Oil on the Garage floor Empty Re: Oil on the Garage floor on Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:14 pm

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fantastic work again alby ....^5s


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16Back to top Go down   Oil on the Garage floor Empty Re: Oil on the Garage floor on Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:55 pm

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Its always good if i can help someone out at least once a week.
Bert 2.0 should be mobile by sunday night!!!

while i was looking for the reason my headlights went out, just after passing the stop /go on the top of blackbutt range.. I had nearly ten vehicles go past me tonight, Just a fuse..had a spare and a torch, no-one even slowed to offer a hand. (mabey it was the steady rain)

    

17Back to top Go down   Oil on the Garage floor Empty Re: Oil on the Garage floor on Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:00 pm

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oh no ! are we going back in there looking for a intermittent short alby ?

that left hand wiring issue again ?

i hope it was just a fuse rating thing ?

glad to hear all is well though



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'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%OOil on the Garage floor Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

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25 amps is a large fuse for our girls!!! fair amount of powdery oxide in wedge. so me thinks thats a big clue. But most likely a rating issue, bad maths. It was the fuse for the new distribution block. Will look at it sunday.

    

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@Inge K. wrote:What a excellent idea Paul, and then we rename it to Kueensland.

Oil on the Garage floor 723598 Brilliant Inge!!

Glad you'll be able to make it Bert.

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20Back to top Go down   Oil on the Garage floor Empty Re: Oil on the Garage floor on Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:55 am

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Well got home from work today and pulled the pump off the old girl. After much mumbling about the previous idiot the rounded off the coolant drain plug. I had it up on the bench. I got the one i picked up from Alby last night(thank you again Alby) and put it beside mine.
I always do this because Murphy lives in my shed and likes to come out at just the wrong moment.
Anyway i discovered that my oil pump gears are different(see pics).
The housing is the same and when i trial fitted without o rings and sealant it goes on ok. Must just be a difference between early and late models. Does anyone know if there is any problems with this or will it be ok. The only problem i can see is the groove in my housing above the small oil pump gear is not on the other one.
Will have to investigate further in the morning and report back with my findings.
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Mines the one on the left.
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Alby's
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Mine.
I stripped mine down and yes the oil seal had seen better days and the spring for the water pump seal isn't much of a spring anymore.
Also the drain line was fully clogged with gunge.
I am going to fit it back up tomorrow all going well, and once i have some parts i will rebuild mine.


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if you have a look at my reno bert 2 ...you will find i had the issue of a blocked return to sump casting

http://k100rt.aforumfree.com/t1833p250-85-rt-resto-my-attempt-hey-im-not-into-making-a-show-bike#34485

i would guess that the groove would overcome this issue durring reassembly ...and is a better design

cheers mate ...good luck with getting her back on the road .....

i can help tommorrow if you need it ... but looks like youve got everything under control phone --sms if you need moral support mate, im not far away .


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Yeah i'm hoping it is all gunna be ok. Am going to have a better look at the front of the engine in the morning. I'd go back down tonight but its fairly hammering down with rain and i couldn't be bothered getting wet(again).
Got pretty wet pushing bikes around at work this morning.

Thanks for offer, might give you a bell tomorrow. I've sent Rick a pm to see if i can get one of his seal kits and i will replace it from Bins. Was Alby's suggestion actually. Just in case.


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@caferacer62 wrote:

Thanks for offer, might give you a bell tomorrow. I've sent Rick a pm to see if i can get one of his seal kits and i will replace it from Bins. Was Alby's suggestion actually. Just in case.

I only suggested you take the offer...to save some time..The brilliant members put the offers forward as soon as they heard you were in trouble.

    

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Bert, I'm rebuilding my spare pump (same model as yours) and I've got the seal kit from Motobins.

All yours if ya want it...


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25Back to top Go down   Oil on the Garage floor Empty Re: Oil on the Garage floor on Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:21 pm

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@Albyalbatross1 wrote:
@caferacer62 wrote:

Thanks for offer, might give you a bell tomorrow. I've sent Rick a pm to see if i can get one of his seal kits and i will replace it from Bins. Was Alby's suggestion actually. Just in case.

I only suggested you take the offer...to save some time..The brilliant members put the offers forward as soon as they heard you were in trouble.

Just giving credit where its due mate, I really appreciate the trouble you have gone too on this one.

Thanks Blakey i'm going to have a quick look in the morning to see if all is ok. i think its just a different oil gallery on the later pump maybe. all the mounts and the drive shaft are the same.



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Update:
Rick has sent me a pm with info on pump differences. Seems that its just a bit lower on the volume delivered side but compensated in the releif valve.

Will post more tomorrow once i get another look at it in the morning.


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27Back to top Go down   Oil on the Garage floor Empty Re: Oil on the Garage floor on Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:42 am

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have to say that the new impeler seems to work really well ...i havent had the same temperatures to compare absolutly ...but notice that the guage is sitting lower than usual .


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'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%OOil on the Garage floor Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

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Good one!! Congrats.


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29Back to top Go down   Oil on the Garage floor Empty Re: Oil on the Garage floor on Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:58 am

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Well after the usual sunday domestic stuff was out of the way I got stuck into the pump stuff.
Cleaned all the mating surfaces up, put a new o ring on the oil pump drive and in the groove for the water pump outlet.
Installed the oil pump dive shaft first.
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Then put a smear of loctite sealant on the face of the pump and installed that.
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Put the cover on, connected the hose and oil pressure wire.
Also did an oil change while i was at it, I have only put water in it at the moment because i will be changing over again once i have my pump rebuilt.
The other reason it only has water in it is I filled it with oil then put coolant in it. But some numpty had forgotten to put the bottom hose on, hmmm nice mess on the floor. Thats what happens when you get distracted.
Once again thanks to everbody for the help and info on this, in particular Alby for loaning me his spare pump and riding down to Caboolture in the rain. Man i owe you big time. But i have made a start on your muffler.

Just as a footnote this is the puddle of oil that greeted me on thursday morning as i was going to work. And the start of all this fun.
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30Back to top Go down   Oil on the Garage floor Empty Re: Oil on the Garage floor on Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:06 am

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good result bert ..i called by but missed you ...

cheers mate ...will be good to see you on the road again ..

the responce was kinda cool ...^5s all


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'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%OOil on the Garage floor Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
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@charlie99 wrote:good result bert ..i called by but missed you ...

cheers mate ...will be good to see you on the road again ..

the responce was kinda cool ...^5s all

Sorry i missed you Charlie, was out doing some stuff for the in laws. Should've sent me a txt and i would have made sure i was home.
Agreed the response was great.

Have started a topic on the muffler mods for Alby too.


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Great effort by everyone.

Glad you're back on the road!


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That puddle of oil looks downright demonic! I'm glad you got things sorted too. Weekends, as much as we'd like 'em all to be just for riding, in reality they're for fixing too.


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