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1Back to top Go down   bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm Empty bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:15 am

nino

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For years I had a problem with buzzing from 2000 rpm. Tighten all screws front, rear, everywhere, but problem remained the same. Finally found that buzz comes from front brake tube situated in head od frame, in tube which connects triple clamps. I disconnected brake line, removed brake tube and isolated it with plastic isolation tape from bottom to top. Then put some thin layer of grease, put it back and connected the brake line. Removed the air from system I went for ride. Cant believe no buzzing at all any more, even between 3 - 4 th rpm.

If you want to try be carefull. Envelope the brake tube only once. Except isolation tape you can use plastic tube for isolation of electrice wire, diameter of 30 mm.

    

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great tip nino .....thanks

i too have a buzz occur ....but it seems to be from the fairing on the right hand side ...i undid the pocket brackets ...and isolated it somewhat then did the brackets up again ,,,,,buzz gone ....woopee !!!


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charlie99 wrote:great tip nino .....thanks

i too have a buzz occur ....but it seems to be from the fairing on the right hand side ...i undid the pocket brackets ...and isolated it somewhat then did the brackets up again ,,,,,buzz gone ....woopee !!!



I thought buzz come from right pocket in the fairing and tighten it. It was better but not solved. Finally understood its metal to metal contact of tubes in head of frame. Charlie try it

    

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Nino, was that pipe seated with the rubber ring? Normally there's a rubber ring at the bottom and the top is fixed with the nylon nut (so I thought).


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5Back to top Go down   bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm Empty Re: bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:16 pm

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ReneZ wrote:Nino, was that pipe seated with the rubber ring? Normally there's a rubber ring at the bottom and the top is fixed with the nylon nut (so I thought).



Yes, it has ruber ring at the bottom and plastic nut at the top. But, thats obviously isnt enough. Start the engine go to 1,5, 2, 2,5 rpm put your ear near the place and you will hear buzzing.

    

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thanks nino ...i shall indeed


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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Thanks for that info
I have a real buzz sets in at 5,000 rpm and sounds like it is coming from the instrument consol, sort of.
I thought there might be bits of the broken speedo cogs floating around but it may well be behind all that.
It's like a speed warning. goes off at 110 klm in 5th.
RT

    

8Back to top Go down   bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm Empty Re: bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:24 am

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RT wrote:Thanks for that info
I have a real buzz sets in at 5,000 rpm and sounds like it is coming from the instrument consol, sort of.
I thought there might be bits of the broken speedo cogs floating around but it may well be behind all that.
It's like a speed warning. goes off at 110 klm in 5th.
RT



I meant could be a speedo or rev counterand was horrified. Fortunately it wasnt. Just isolate metal to metal contact in frame head. Regards

    

9Back to top Go down   bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm Empty How to eliminate bar weights buzz? Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:10 am

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I believe to solve bar ends buzzing by puting one more O ring on it. I removed bar weight and cut round slot like existing slot ( in middle of each weight). New slot is cca 3 mm from the end (or begining) of inner part of each weight. Then is necesary to put O rings on each new slot and screw weights back in bars.

Short drive - no more buzz around 2 k rpm.

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Any picture of where you put the "cut" Nino?


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"The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page." - St. Augustine from 1600 years ago & still true!

K1 - 1989 - AKA Titan (unique K1/K1100RS hybrid by Andreas Esterhammer)
K1100RS - 1995. AKA Rudolf Von Schmurf (in a million bits)
K100RS - 1991 AKA Ronnie. Cafe racer project bike
K75RTP - 1994
K75C - 1991 AKA Jim Beam. In boxes. 
K1100LT 1992 - AKA Big Red (gone)
K100LT - 1988 - AKA the Bullion brick. Should never have sold it.
    

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88KE wrote:Any picture of where you put the "cut" Nino?

Sorry, I lost a camera few days ago. I ll ask my neighbor for help.

    

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Living in a less populated area, Nino?........we`re waiting.bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm Laughi10


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Inge K. wrote:Living in a less populated area, Nino?........we`re waiting.bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm Laughi10

In ten minutes

    

14Back to top Go down   bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm Empty Re: bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:20 pm

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nino wrote:Picturebmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm Bar_en16

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Its not machined., I made from hand using grinder. But weighst sit tight in bars - no more buzz

    

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A bit after scheme bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm 652573 ...........well done, Nino bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm 112350 ...nice photos, thanks for this info.


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Good idea Nino. Thanks for the pics - I'll do this too.
88KE



Last edited by 88KE on Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:18 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Typo)


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bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm Ir-log1188....May contain nuts!bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm Ir-log11

"The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page." - St. Augustine from 1600 years ago & still true!

K1 - 1989 - AKA Titan (unique K1/K1100RS hybrid by Andreas Esterhammer)
K1100RS - 1995. AKA Rudolf Von Schmurf (in a million bits)
K100RS - 1991 AKA Ronnie. Cafe racer project bike
K75RTP - 1994
K75C - 1991 AKA Jim Beam. In boxes. 
K1100LT 1992 - AKA Big Red (gone)
K100LT - 1988 - AKA the Bullion brick. Should never have sold it.
    

17Back to top Go down   bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm Empty Re: bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:59 pm

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After few short drives around I think it works.

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18Back to top Go down   bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm Empty Crying Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:42 pm

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nino wrote:
Inge K. wrote:Living in a less populated area, Nino?........we`re waiting.bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm Laughi10

In ten minutes

Yeah and when I asked for a pic how you installed the hockey puck on your sidestand, was no neighbour in the vicinity Crying or Very sad

    

19Back to top Go down   bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm Empty Merged buzzing 'bars and the cure. Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:58 pm

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Same topic and issue, and it made sense to, so I merged them.


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20Back to top Go down   bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm Empty Re: bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:33 am

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Yes, in both case the source of noise is the same, tube in tube, metal to metal direct contact.Isolating front brake tube in frame head solved buzz partially, then few days ago while driving on highway noticed when cover bar weights with hands buzz disapear. So decided to isolate weights with additional O rings.

Later today I ll go for about 600 km drive, from Zagreb home to Dubrovnik. When come I ll send few words about buzz experience after intervention.

Cheers

    

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Aye, some times we enjoy a good buzz, other times it's not fun. :smoke:


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22Back to top Go down   bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm Empty Re: bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:04 pm

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nino wrote:Yes, in both case the source of noise is the same, tube in tube, metal to metal direct contact.Isolating front brake tube in frame head solved buzz partially, then few days ago while driving on highway noticed when cover bar weights with hands buzz disapear. So decided to isolate weights with additional O rings.

Later today I ll go for about 600 km drive, from Zagreb home to Dubrovnik. When come I ll send few words about buzz experience after intervention.

Cheers


Just finished the trip from Zagreb to Dubrovnik (460 km country roads, 100 km highway). Nice weather, 30 degr. a lot of bikes on the road (mostly bmw gs 1200). Tested modified bar weights with additional O ring on my bike. Much, much better, no buzzing just a clean engine sound. Reccomend.

Cheers

    

23Back to top Go down   bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm Empty Thanks Nino! Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:18 pm

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Hello Nino,

Thank you for posting your fix for the buzzing sound. I have ridden K100RT bikes since '86, and the whole time that sound has bothered me. I tried to figure out where it was coming from, but did not have success. Then 3 weeks ago I saw your post. I used heat-shrink tubing for the sleeve, shrunk it on and it worked fine. The sound is completely gone. Everyone who thinks they are hearing the buzzing sound should try this. Thanks again.

Keep the shiny side up!

John

    

24Back to top Go down   bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm Empty Re: bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:52 pm

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Hello Johny, where did you use heat shrink tubing, in frame head, or on bar weights, or on both?

Regards

    

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I too have been looking for this similar noise thanks for the ideas


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26Back to top Go down   bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm Empty Re: bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:06 am

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Nino,
I have had a buzz for a while, I have taped , tightened, screwed, bolted, shimed, ect, still have the buzz that I thought was the spedo console, I switched out the spedos , still the buz, so this brake line , all I need to do is pull the line from the master, undo a nut on the top of the steering head and drop the splitter, put some tape on it , put it all back?
Thanks
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27Back to top Go down   bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm Empty Re: bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:31 pm

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by god it worked

    

28Back to top Go down   bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm Empty Re: bmw k 100 rt buzz from 2000 rpm Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:04 am

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Well done! Nino - great tip!!


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