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1Back to top Go down   Eletrickery problems.  Empty Eletrickery problems. Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:16 am

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Took the old girl for a quick trip to Tamworth today. The bike ran fine but some odd electrical gremlins appear to have set up house in what I presume is probably the right hand handlebar switch. I noticed on my last ride that the electric start was being a bit erratic...and now today it has stopped working. Fortunately it'd easy enough to bump start. I also noticed the blinkers doing some odd stuff....like the right blinker light on the dash coming on when I pressed the left blinker switch...and after stopping for juice at Moonbi a delivery driver in a truck I had overtaken told me that when I was behind him, my headlight was blinking on and off.

I'm guessing all these things are related and are all in the right hand switchblock somewhere...that's the first thing I'll look at tomorrow, armed with some Deoxit etc, but was wondering if there was anything to look at either apart from or including this?

Sean.

    

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The main ground goes through the starter, and if the brushes are dirty or worn, you will get this 'gremlin' issue. Pull the starter first, have a look at/clean the brushes...


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3Back to top Go down   Eletrickery problems.  Empty Re: Eletrickery problems. Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:22 am

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Ok, thanks for that. I just pulled the starter motor off the spare motor to have a look at...so will compare them both and see what's what. Thanks.

    

4Back to top Go down   Eletrickery problems.  Empty Re: Eletrickery problems. Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:39 am

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Have a look at the starter brushes, if the fault is affecting the headlight then the brushes are probably to blame as the earth for the load shed relay is through the starter motor so that when the starter is energised the load shed relay has 12v+ at both terminals and releases giving max power to the starter.


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5Back to top Go down   Eletrickery problems.  Empty Re: Eletrickery problems. Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:27 am

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Thanks Rick, I'll have a captain cook in the morning.

    

6Back to top Go down   Eletrickery problems.  Empty Re: Eletrickery problems. Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:30 am

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A curious thing is that this problem seems to have coincided with replacing my main earth wire. Maybe I'd better have a look at that first, just to make sure......though I can't see what could go wrong there?

    

7Back to top Go down   Eletrickery problems.  Empty Re: Eletrickery problems. Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:33 am

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I have a similar type of problem.

Initially I had a non starting issue so I took out took out starter motor and stripped/cleaned etc and its fine, also changed starter relay, load shed relay and ICU under the headstock and checked and remade all the earths. The indicator problem remains and it only happpened after I did this work. It only happens sometimes. Horn also not working.


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1983 K100RS 0011171 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 37,190 miles. 
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8Back to top Go down   Eletrickery problems.  Empty Re: Eletrickery problems. Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:01 am

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Olaf check fuse #7 and make sure it is OK. Check it with a meter and clean the terminals where it plugs in.


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9Back to top Go down   Eletrickery problems.  Empty Re: Eletrickery problems. Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:25 pm

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If all else fails, try checking for breaks in the wiring loom. These cause intermittant problems.

First find a sledge hammer and casually lean it against the wall opposite your bike. Twisted Evil

Try to isolate each wire you check. Measure the resistance of the connecting wires and with your third hand give them a wiggle at the same time. Squeeze any sharp bends in the wiring and tap likely-looking things.

Good luck Very Happy


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A sledgehammer...?! That's a bit harsh don't you think?
I usually just sit a box of matches on the tank. Smile

    

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Sledgehamer? Matches?
I just use a poster on the wall as a warning:

Eletrickery problems.  20120901_motorparade

:-c:


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12Back to top Go down   Eletrickery problems.  Empty Re: Eletrickery problems. Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:56 pm

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Eletrickery problems.  44271 Apropos sledgehammers......that's about as subtle as one!

    

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Brilliant poster, Amster. cheers

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14Back to top Go down   Eletrickery problems.  Empty Re: Eletrickery problems. Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:04 pm

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@Amster wrote:Sledgehamer? Matches?
I just use a poster on the wall as a warning:

Just bring that bike round to my place.
I don't mind assembling it myself. Even if it is red.
kaythxbai

rossco


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@Amster wrote:Sledgehamer? Matches?
I just use a poster on the wall as a warning:


LOL, I LOVE that - Haynes promo around 1986 I think!

Dan

    

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Lol....took me a minute to work that out....kaythxbai Eletrickery problems.  44271

    

17Back to top Go down   Eletrickery problems.  Empty Re: Eletrickery problems. Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:39 pm

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The one in red looks like Mr Bean and he should be the last one to write a manual


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"Man sacrifices his health in order to make money.
Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health.
And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived."   Dalai Lama


Bikes 1998 K1100 LT, 1993 K75 RT, 1996 K75RT, 1986 K75 GS, 1979 Z1300 Kawasaki
    

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SaKson7-lunchboKsrider wrote:Lol....took me a minute to work that out....kaythxbai Eletrickery problems.  44271


You need to do more online gaming.

It's L33t


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19Back to top Go down   Eletrickery problems.  Empty Re: Eletrickery problems. Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:06 pm

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More like 44gal BS


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"Man sacrifices his health in order to make money.
Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health.
And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived."   Dalai Lama


Bikes 1998 K1100 LT, 1993 K75 RT, 1996 K75RT, 1986 K75 GS, 1979 Z1300 Kawasaki
    

20Back to top Go down   Eletrickery problems.  Empty Re: Eletrickery problems. Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:12 pm

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I just use a poster on the wall as a warning: (Quote)
Looks like a seventies porno ready to start...not much imagination needed the RS is already exposed and prone.
Eletrickery problems.  20120901_motorparade

Eletrickery problems.  3041425650 [/quote]


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Chassis number0019026
Vehicle code0503
SeriesK589
ModelK 100 RS 83 (0502 ( 0503 )
Body typeK 100 RS 83 (0502
Catalog modelECE
Production date1984 / 07
Engine0513)

Eletrickery problems.  Au-log10


    

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Is that what the wheels are supposed to look like? Man I've got some work to do.


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22Back to top Go down   Eletrickery problems.  Empty Re: Eletrickery problems. Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:29 pm

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Ok, so the starter motor is simple to remove. There are only 2 locating bolts. It moves. Why can't I get it out? More violence required? A special knack?

    

23Back to top Go down   Eletrickery problems.  Empty Re: Eletrickery problems. Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:48 pm

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SaKson7-lunchboKsrider wrote:Ok, so the starter motor is simple to remove. There are only 2 locating bolts. It moves. Why can't I get it out? More violence required? A special knack?

It's got a big ugly O ring round the stuck end.
Bit more jiggery pokery required on your part.
Mind your fingers.
wiggle wiggle wiggle pop


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24Back to top Go down   Eletrickery problems.  Empty Re: Eletrickery problems. Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:07 pm

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Rossco, don't you know.....there are 4 wiggles!


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25Back to top Go down   Eletrickery problems.  Empty Re: Eletrickery problems. Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:35 am

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Job done. Was the brushes. Very unevenly and badly worn. I whacked my spare one in and will put a brush set in the other to keep as my reserve. Very Happy

    

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@Klompy the grey brick wrote:I just use a poster on the wall as a warning: (Quote)
Looks like a seventies porno ready to start...not much imagination needed the RS is already exposed and prone.
Eletrickery problems.  20120901_motorparade

Eletrickery problems.  3041425650
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So according to the Haynes first strip down of the K100 they were supplied with a bike with no wiring loom!

I would love to have that poster on my wall!


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SaKson7-lunchboKsrider - congratulations, a collection of strange symptoms well suppressed Very Happy


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Thanks Gerry and thanks for the tips everyone! Smile

    

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