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1Back to top Go down   Heat shield and panniers Empty Heat shield and panniers Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:43 am

73MOH

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So it looks like Ive bought myself a set of panniers..... Do I need to put the heatshield back on my exhaust to prevent them from melting?


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2Back to top Go down   Heat shield and panniers Empty Re: Heat shield and panniers Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:55 am

blaKey

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I asked the same question to the guy at The BM Shop and he replied it's no big deal if it's fitted or not.


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3Back to top Go down   Heat shield and panniers Empty Re: Heat shield and panniers Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:07 am

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If at all possible, I would. My panniers are fairly old and delapidated, locks prone to opening at the most inappropriate time, requiring a webbed belt around the thing. It does get fairly warm under the LHS pannier, and if you use the webbing, I believe that there is a slight risk of it tending towards a melt.

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Stan

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Mind you, Rick's right hand side pannier got rather warm also....46 kms out of Wee Waa.. There was a different reason for that one.


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1987 K100RT vin 0094685 colour, orange peel, sorry, pearl..GONE
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I have Krauser K2 panniers on the K. The heat shield is in place and there is still an amount of heat. Everything in the left hand pannier ends up warm. I cant imagine how it would be without the heat shield.


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011171 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 37,190 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 42,640 miles.

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1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

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Heating up the pannier can be a good thing. It can be a pie warmer on longer trips.


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7Back to top Go down   Heat shield and panniers Empty Re: Heat shield and panniers Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:47 am

charlie99

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stop start traffic and city type driving could certainly warm them up a bit paul

but dont think the guard will make much difference ....

i got the city paniers for just carrying around stuff, local like with a lot more clearance to the muffler .

the big ones go on for away trips ....and then there is lots of air going past anyhow ...havent heard of too many melting mate ....warmish yes ...

just make sure that the locks work properly ....and use them ....the unlocked latched position does wear over time, potholes and engine vibrations etc wear the mechanism clasp . once a little moovement starts ...well more happens real quick ...particuarly the frame locks .....when the actuall lock is in the lock position it restricts the moovement ...and wear

my frame locks used to pop all the time ...so i bought some newbys and replaced them (easliy done ) and now travel with them in the lock position once they are fitted up ....no moovement at all since doing that little excersize and i keep the wear down by using the lock position .

some rubber applied to the clip through the frame (to take up the gap ) also helps reduce the vibration , wear to the frame and lock ...and noise


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'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%OHeat shield and panniers Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

8Back to top Go down   Heat shield and panniers Empty Re: Heat shield and panniers Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:28 pm

sidecar paul

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Just to add to Charlie's bit, replacing the pannier seals with 6mm expanded neoprene strip, the standard strip is 5mm, tightens the fit of the lids, pulls the locks in firmer and improves the waterproofing.

Paul.


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'51 Vincent (since '67),'72 Montesa Cota (from new), '87 Honda RS125R NF4 (bought 2015) 
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9Back to top Go down   Heat shield and panniers Empty Re: Heat shield and panniers Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:39 am

73MOH

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thanks for responses...... Smile Smile


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10Back to top Go down   Heat shield and panniers Empty Re: Heat shield and panniers Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:59 pm

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@sidecar paul wrote:Just to add to Charlie's bit, replacing the pannier seals with 6mm expanded neoprene strip, the standard strip is 5mm, tightens the fit of the lids, pulls the locks in firmer and improves the waterproofing.

Paul.

Good Tip Paul. I'vealso taken Charlies advice on fitting some rubber strip to the Z frame track on the pannier side too and it drastically reduced the movement and noise. I've just today been looking at the movement in my latches - it seems to be growing! Time to look at replacing them.

88


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"The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page." - St. Augustine from 1600 years ago & still true!

K1100LT 1992 - AKA Big Red
K1100RS - 1995. AKA Rudolf Von Schmurf (in a million bits)
K1/RS - AKA Titan (unique hybrid by Andreas Esterhammer)
    

11Back to top Go down   Heat shield and panniers Empty Re: Heat shield and panniers Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:34 pm

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i have another tip too 88 maybe i should post a pic ...


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%OHeat shield and panniers Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

12Back to top Go down   Heat shield and panniers Empty Re: Heat shield and panniers Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:15 am

charlie99

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try this ,,,,some firm foam rubber near the frame locks ......and a little higher

it buffers the lock and frame to panieers (you can see the distinct impression of the frame in the rubber) ..it also helps stop rattling .

if you look close you can see the bit of rubber thong i used to take up the moovement of the frame locks to the thinned out frame lock section ....works good ...and doesnt cost much at all ...it also keeps some presure on the latch assembly ...



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just some ideas that might help someone


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%OHeat shield and panniers Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

13Back to top Go down   Heat shield and panniers Empty Re: Heat shield and panniers Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:51 am

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Thank you for sharing a photo of your thong with us. You can now explain that to our American friends....thongs are not thongs everywhere!


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1983 K100 basic vin 0003960 colour red  GONE
1987 K100RT vin 0094685 colour, orange peel, sorry, pearl..GONE
F800R black
    

14Back to top Go down   Heat shield and panniers Empty Re: Heat shield and panniers Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:04 am

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Charlie wearing a thong OOOOOOOOOOOOhh I shall have PTSD without even leaving my house.


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"Man sacrifices his health in order to make money.
Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health.
And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived."   Dalai Lama


Bikes 1998 K1100 LT, 1993 K75 RT, 1996 K75RT, 1986 K75 GS, 1979 Z1300 Kawasaki
    

15Back to top Go down   Heat shield and panniers Empty Re: Heat shield and panniers Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:11 am

Stan

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Rick, don't forget it is also made of rubber.....that is a bigger concern.


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1983 K100 basic vin 0003960 colour red  GONE
1987 K100RT vin 0094685 colour, orange peel, sorry, pearl..GONE
F800R black
    

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klompy the grey brick

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when I met my wife in the UK I told her all Australians wear thongs and I prefer double plugger rubber ones.....should have seen her eyes!!!What a Face and when she saw them and had regained her composure she was glad I put them on my feet.


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"Grace" 1984 K100RS Silver VIN 0019026 Mitt eine Staintune Zorst.
"Olivia" 1997 K1100LT Dark Grey VIN WB1052600W0237453.









Chassis number0019026
Vehicle code0503
SeriesK589
ModelK 100 RS 83 (0502 ( 0503 )
Body typeK 100 RS 83 (0502
Catalog modelECE
Production date1984 / 07
Engine0513)

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17Back to top Go down   Heat shield and panniers Empty Re: Heat shield and panniers Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:16 am

RicK G

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Rubber Hmmmm now I will never get it out of my mind.
Sorta reminded me of this
Heat shield and panniers 028911


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"Man sacrifices his health in order to make money.
Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health.
And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived."   Dalai Lama


Bikes 1998 K1100 LT, 1993 K75 RT, 1996 K75RT, 1986 K75 GS, 1979 Z1300 Kawasaki
    

18Back to top Go down   Heat shield and panniers Empty Re: Heat shield and panniers Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:31 am

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ok ...ok ..i get the message thongs is aussie speak for jandles ..flip flops ...call them what you will

crikey rick ! thats an awesome "pucker" image ...dont wanna go there !!!! not this widdle "aussie bleeder" (norman gunston reference )


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%OHeat shield and panniers Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

19Back to top Go down   Heat shield and panniers Empty Re: Heat shield and panniers Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:40 pm

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Rick's cartoon reminds me of a saying ..."if you're not the lead Dog the view is always the same" Very Happy

Charlie, good idea on the rubbers, in the absence of Jandals, Thongs, Flip Flops etc I picked up these in town today which should do the trick....
Heat shield and panniers Img_1010
Shockingly pricey I know but "Hang the Expense, give the cat a goldfish" I say! :smoke:


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Heat shield and panniers Ir-log11 88....May contain nuts!Heat shield and panniers Ir-log11

"The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page." - St. Augustine from 1600 years ago & still true!

K1100LT 1992 - AKA Big Red
K1100RS - 1995. AKA Rudolf Von Schmurf (in a million bits)
K1/RS - AKA Titan (unique hybrid by Andreas Esterhammer)
    

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Stan

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A story was circulating many years ago about the UK officials who did not like to have too many international visitors who had very low intelligence. "What can we do to stop these idiots arriving?" was asked.
An easy, fast solution was suggested. If a visitor could tie up his/her shoe laces, a visa would be granted.
The first plane plane arrived and all the officials were ready...........a Qantas plane full of Aussies..........all wearing thongs!


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1983 K100 basic vin 0003960 colour red  GONE
1987 K100RT vin 0094685 colour, orange peel, sorry, pearl..GONE
F800R black
    

21Back to top Go down   Heat shield and panniers Empty Re: Heat shield and panniers Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:01 pm

Inge K.

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What I've used on the rearside of the panniers is sealing strips for marine use,
on a roll...cut as needed.
Available in different thickness, width and lenght.


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22Back to top Go down   Heat shield and panniers Empty Re: Heat shield and panniers Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:49 pm

sidecar paul

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Had a PM from ali asking for info on seal suppliers, so here's where I bought my 6mm expanded neoprene cord from, in case anyone else wants some.

http://www.sealsdirect.co.uk/shopping.asp

Paul.


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'84 K100RS (0014643) (owned since '85), 86 K100RS (0018891) with Martello sidecar (built as an outfit in '88),
'51 Vincent (since '67),'72 Montesa Cota (from new), '87 Honda RS125R NF4 (bought 2015) 
....No CARS never ever!
    

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