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Re: Headlight quiz Mon Sep 09, 2013 2:42 pm
k-rider

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i know, youre making a stealth bike:D
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Re: Headlight quiz Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:05 pm
sidecar paul

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Is this something to do with getting a HID lamp to work without excessive glare?
Paul.

Paul.
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Re: Headlight quiz Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:26 pm
Crazy Frog

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Ha ha, you want a black light to have the car in front of you glowing at night 
You would be more successful if you paint the bulb too.

You would be more successful if you paint the bulb too.
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Re: Headlight quiz Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:38 pm
MikeP

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It's for an alternative universe bike where dark matter shows up as light.
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Re: Headlight quiz Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:40 pm
92KK 84WW Olaf

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Its a new headlight for Stephen Hawking's K100. A black hole with projector lights....
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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011171 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 40,490 miles.
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 42,640 miles.
Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
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Re: Headlight quiz Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:06 pm
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Re: Headlight quiz Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:34 pm
Guest

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Well that didn't last long! Here is the next picture:

The Bi-xenon HID projector is now fitted to the painted reflector.
I shall replace the glass with a piece of black painted aluminium with a circular hole in the middle with some plastic glass in the hole. The whole of the front of the bike will be black with the 10cm circle on the front.
Th Bi-xenon projector was bought from ebay for about €25 and runs with a 35watt HID bulb for both dip and main beam. When you switch on the main beam the metal shield flips out of the beam with a solenoid. The 35watt HID gives out about 3 times as much light as a 55watt halogen bulb, I know that because I have retrofitted them to my car.
I can also fit two rows of 5050 LEDs as a parking light. I have also bought some black reflective tape from ebay that cannot be seen on the black bike till you take a photo with flash or shine a torch and then it reflects white.

The Bi-xenon HID projector is now fitted to the painted reflector.
I shall replace the glass with a piece of black painted aluminium with a circular hole in the middle with some plastic glass in the hole. The whole of the front of the bike will be black with the 10cm circle on the front.
Th Bi-xenon projector was bought from ebay for about €25 and runs with a 35watt HID bulb for both dip and main beam. When you switch on the main beam the metal shield flips out of the beam with a solenoid. The 35watt HID gives out about 3 times as much light as a 55watt halogen bulb, I know that because I have retrofitted them to my car.
I can also fit two rows of 5050 LEDs as a parking light. I have also bought some black reflective tape from ebay that cannot be seen on the black bike till you take a photo with flash or shine a torch and then it reflects white.
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Re: Headlight quiz Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:26 pm
92KK 84WW Olaf

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Sidecar Paul and myself deserve a €1 prize for that game......all we need to work out now is when to travel to collect.......
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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011171 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 40,490 miles.
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 42,640 miles.
Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
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Re: Headlight quiz Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:31 pm
RicK G

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I thought it was that you wanted better lights than a Jewcarrtty.
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Re: Headlight quiz Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:55 am
Ghost who rides

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Doesn't France have A law where the light has to be "candle Yellow' ?
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Re: Headlight quiz Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:31 am
K75cster

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Ahaa very clever, now its not so much fun on the other side of one of those lights, so when they are driving towards you and are night blind and trying to gauge where just beside you is to be roughly on their side of the road, and appear to you to be vearing errantly upon your aproach to them, dont you go blaming them for the pickle you are getting into now will you. Too much candle power can be a dangerous thing.

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Re: Headlight quiz Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:03 am
Guest

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I think that was the case about 30 or 40 years ago! We are all European now.Ghost who rides wrote:Doesn't France have A law where the light has to be "candle Yellow' ?
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Re: Headlight quiz Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:07 am
Guest

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Not sure about that as just about all car manufacturers use them these days. The reason for using a projector rather than just sticking a HID bulb into the existing headlight is that the projector is designed to eliminate any stray light above the cut off.K75cster wrote:Ahaa very clever, now its not so much fun on the other side of one of those lights, so when they are driving towards you and are night blind and trying to gauge where just beside you is to be roughly on their side of the road, and appear to you to be vearing errantly upon your aproach to them, dont you go blaming them for the pickle you are getting into now will you. Too much candle power can be a dangerous thing.
Perhaps if you think that too much candle power can be dangerous then we should all scrap halogen lights and go back to the old incandescent bulbs that kept you at 30kph at night.
I will carry on with the project.
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Re: Headlight quiz Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:14 pm
xpc316e

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This project is an example of why I love this forum. People are willing to try genuinely new things to improve their bikes, and tell us all about it with helpful pictures.
I wish you the best of luck with it, and please do keep us up to date with how things are progressing.
I wish you the best of luck with it, and please do keep us up to date with how things are progressing.
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Re: Headlight quiz Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:25 pm
Guest

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Thanks for that. If i still lived in the UK you could have popped over to have a look as I was not that far from you. But hey the weather is better here!xpc316e wrote:This project is an example of why I love this forum. People are willing to try genuinely new things to improve their bikes, and tell us all about it with helpful pictures.
I wish you the best of luck with it, and please do keep us up to date with how things are progressing.
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Re: Headlight quiz Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:39 pm
Crazy Frog

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Not only the weather, your wine too!bikerboy wrote:Thanks for that. If i still lived in the UK you could have popped over to have a look as I was not that far from you. But hey the weather is better here!

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Re: Headlight quiz Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:48 pm
xpc316e

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I will not attempt to dispute the statement about French weather being better, but Suffolk can produce a drinkable wine:
http://www.wykenvineyards.co.uk/

http://www.wykenvineyards.co.uk/

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VIN 0191428, 1991 K100LT, formerly owned by Lancashire Constabulary. This old warhorse is now 'out to grass' and living in retirement in Suffolk, where it will be showered with appropriate love and care.
VIN 6459609, 1992 K1100LT, another ex-Police machine, even though she now looks like she is a former fire engine.
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Re: Headlight quiz Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:23 pm
Guest

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Crazy Frog may be referring to the very nice bottle of Pecharmant that we drank while sitting in the sun at my house this summer, a good wine that we don't tend to export.
Love the reference to the 7 acre vineyard in Suffolk, I wonder how that compares in size with the average vineyard in this area
Love the reference to the 7 acre vineyard in Suffolk, I wonder how that compares in size with the average vineyard in this area

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Re: Headlight quiz Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:23 am
K75cster

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yes My mistake Bikerboy, I had a thought of the Ettamogah Pub cartoons we used to read in the mag called Aussie post cir 1976, a cartoonist ken maynard had drawn one of the cartoon charactors driving an old outback truck with huge driving lights that it was perported would melt tar at 300yards and I was doing an "oh by the way if" post but unless you had read most of the cartoons it would not have meant much so better off saying, should be good cant wait for the end results. There back in 2013 again.bikerboy wrote:Not sure about that as just about all car manufacturers use them these days. The reason for using a projector rather than just sticking a HID bulb into the existing headlight is that the projector is designed to eliminate any stray light above the cut off.K75cster wrote:Ahaa very clever, now its not so much fun on the other side of one of those lights, so when they are driving towards you and are night blind and trying to gauge where just beside you is to be roughly on their side of the road, and appear to you to be vearing errantly upon your aproach to them, dont you go blaming them for the pickle you are getting into now will you. Too much candle power can be a dangerous thing.
Perhaps if you think that too much candle power can be dangerous then we should all scrap halogen lights and go back to the old incandescent bulbs that kept you at 30kph at night.
I will carry on with the project.
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The Clever are adept at extricating themselves from situations that the wise would have avoided from the outset - QUOTE from david Hillel in Out of the Earth.
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projector lens Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:56 am
ARTCOLLINSJR

Silver member

The projector lens is the only way to go with the HID. Too many (ricers) sticking HID's in their stock reflectors over here..painful, and usually the wrong temperature to see any better
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Re: Headlight quiz Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:05 am
92KK 84WW Olaf

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I had noticed down in Bordeaux there are a lot of wines that don't see export.......but quite a few are ones that really need to be enjoyed young and not up to the stresses of transportation- a decision made long before K bikes....bikerboy wrote:Crazy Frog may be referring to the very nice bottle of Pecharmant that we drank while sitting in the sun at my house this summer, a good wine that we don't tend to export.
Love the reference to the 7 acre vineyard in Suffolk, I wonder how that compares in size with the average vineyard in this area
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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011171 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 40,490 miles.
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 42,640 miles.
Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
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Re: Headlight quiz Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:25 am
K75cster

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projector lensARTCOLLINSJR wrote:The projector lens is the only way to go with the HID. Too many (ricers) sticking HID's in their stock reflectors over here..painful, and usually the wrong temperature to see any better
Will this result in a more pencil like beam than the bikes origional spread of light?
Stock reflectors, I am guessing the stock reflectors are then out of sinc with the new bulb
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The Clever are adept at extricating themselves from situations that the wise would have avoided from the outset - QUOTE from david Hillel in Out of the Earth.
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Re: Headlight quiz Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:41 am
Guest

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A projector (not a lens, but a unit) gives the same beam pattern as a normal dipped beam but with hardly any stray light. The stray light from a normal halogen light is not too much of a problem as it is not very bright when compared with a HID Xenon light.
If you put a HID Xenon into a normal reflector made for a halogen bulb then there will be stray light everywhere which will just dazzle other road users. That is the reason that all factory HID Xenon equipped cars have a projector headlight.
Have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headlamp which may help you understand.
If you put a HID Xenon into a normal reflector made for a halogen bulb then there will be stray light everywhere which will just dazzle other road users. That is the reason that all factory HID Xenon equipped cars have a projector headlight.
Have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headlamp which may help you understand.
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Re: Headlight quiz Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:16 am
K75cster

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Wow went and read that wiki site, I think I have info overload or craft might be closer to it, so cant wait to see how it turns out or is that read?
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The Clever are adept at extricating themselves from situations that the wise would have avoided from the outset - QUOTE from david Hillel in Out of the Earth.
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Re: Headlight quiz Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:10 am
glide1981

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Would it make a difference with the reflected/scattered light by painting it flat black?
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Re: Headlight quiz Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:44 am
Guest

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No difference as the HID xenon bulb will not even be able to see the old reflector. All it will see is the inside of the projector part.glide1981 wrote:Would it make a difference with the reflected/scattered light by painting it flat black?
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