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1Back to top Go down   Break in to Fuel Tank? Empty Break in to Fuel Tank? Sat Nov 15, 2014 4:34 pm

Be made

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Beeutiful day here, went to go for a stop and, upon going to open the Fuel cap to check how much Juice I had the . .  BARRELL broke . . . 💣 💣 💣 💣 💣 💣 💣 💣 💣 💣 💣 💣 💣 💣 💣 💣 💣 💣 💣 💣 💣 💣 💣 

Now, Correct me if I am wrong

Is the best ( or prefferred) way to get the lid open by drilling out the Key way ??

Thanks guys

    

2Back to top Go down   Break in to Fuel Tank? Empty Re: Break in to Fuel Tank? Sat Nov 15, 2014 6:59 pm

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Left my keys in a hire car last year in Brissy and never got them back. This year I knew I needed a petrol cap lock cylinder with key so brought a new set home with me for the RS. I slipped a piece of fuel hose over the drill bit so as not to go too far in and carefully drilled the centre of the lock cylinder out. Once I'd reached the required depth I rammed a large screwdriver into the cavity and turned it to open. And open she did. Then I picked out the bits and replaced the lock cylinder. Good to go.

I don't know of any other way. Attempting to tap out the eeny tiny weeny roll pin sideways is too bloody fiddly and prying up on the cap will only damage the finish.


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3Back to top Go down   Break in to Fuel Tank? Empty Re: Break in to Fuel Tank? Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:44 am

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@Two Wheels Better wrote:Left my keys in a hire car last year in Brissy and never got them back. This year I knew I needed a petrol cap lock cylinder with key so brought a new set home with me for the RS. I slipped a piece of fuel hose over the drill bit so as not to go too far in and carefully drilled the centre of the lock cylinder out. Once I'd reached the required depth I rammed a large screwdriver into the cavity and turned it to open. And open she did. Then I picked out the bits and replaced the lock cylinder. Good to go.

I don't know of any other way. Attempting to tap out the eeny tiny weeny roll pin sideways is too bloody fiddly and prying up on the cap will only damage the finish.
Thanks for that. I appreciate your response

I did try it but to no avail.

I ended up mutilating the top by first doing as you suggested but ended up drilling out over the hinge pins. I would have to have had a new top piece anyway as when I inspected the broken piece it was the part of the top that actuates the lock (abs part). Never mind. It's over now. I is off to the wreckers tomorrow probably, after pricing up a gen. part

A little bit annoyed. Would have to happen on a Sunday Morning, on a lovely day, when we had the time and money to go and really enjoy ourselves. Our destination is a fantastic little hot pools, little known, little used and and very very nice, only 125ks from where we live.

Methinks somehow that there is a great big motorcyclist guardian angel in the sky that didn't want me on the road today, lest I get taken out by a crazy. Not to worry. Stay home today to live to ride another day

    

4Back to top Go down   Break in to Fuel Tank? Empty Re: Break in to Fuel Tank? Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:29 pm

sidecar paul

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Hi Be made,

I came up with this idea some time ago in answer to a question from Saxon7. By drilling a small hole, say 3mm, as in the picture, you should be able to release the catch with a small screwdriver.

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I don't know if anyone has tried it yet, but I think it would work!

Paul.


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5Back to top Go down   Break in to Fuel Tank? Empty Re: Break in to Fuel Tank? Mon Nov 17, 2014 7:32 pm

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@sidecar paul wrote: By drilling a small hole, say 3mm, as in the picture, you should be able to release the catch with a small screwdriver.
I don't know if anyone has tried it yet, but I think it would work!

Paul.
Thanks for this. I wish I had found out prior to buggerising the cap completely. Will save the info for next time :-)))

    

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Ok . . so . . after shopping around the entire world to try and get my hands on a cap in less than a month I resorted to machining a base for the flange so that it would take a Car petrol cap. It'll do for now. The New price was $550.00

This cost (cough) $275.00. I have no lathe these days or it would have been free. So I had to hire someone to do it for me. Damn. Never mind . We are back on the road and that is really all that counts

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I know it won't be any good in the rain but it's only a temp measure until the $100 nzd one's arrives from either US and the UK. I have purchsed both of the only ones I could find in the world

I NEVER want this sort of frustration again

    

7Back to top Go down   Break in to Fuel Tank? Empty Re: Break in to Fuel Tank? Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:36 pm

sidecar paul

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Be made,
Just out of interest, could you drill a hole in the mangled cap as per my picture, to see if there would be any flaws in my idea? 

If my solution works, it may not be a bad idea to drill the hole in your new cap and fit a rubber bung to seal the hole.
 Sod's law would then say that the problem would never reoccur. cheers

Paul.


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'84 K100RS (0014643) (owned since '85), 86 K100RS (0018891) with Martello sidecar (built as an outfit in '88),
'51 Vincent (since '67),'72 Montesa Cota (from new), '87 Honda RS125R NF4 (bought 2015) 
....No CARS never ever!
    

8Back to top Go down   Break in to Fuel Tank? Empty Re: Break in to Fuel Tank? Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:23 pm

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Ouch, that was rather painful all round then, Shocked   Sad    Never ceases to amaze me how much we end up paying for stuff, now Im thinking I shall look out for a spare cap before I need it...
Fwiw, I have a small lathe,   Come have a coffee n chat sometime, never know when contacts are useful  Smile   Jeremy

    

9Back to top Go down   Break in to Fuel Tank? Empty Re: Break in to Fuel Tank? Fri Nov 21, 2014 1:42 am

Two Wheels Better

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Watch Motobins and Motorworks for deals. I managed a complete, silver painted petrol cap assembly (without lock cylinder) for less than AU$100 delivered to OZ. I painted it black, slipped my lock into it and 'called it good', as they say in Yankee land. $550? Really? Astounding.


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1970 R60/5, OZ '77 R75/7-R100, '85 K100'87 K75C, OZ '87 K100RS, '93 K11-K12 Big Block, '93 K1100RS, '95 R100-Mystic, '96 K1100RS, '98 K1200RS, '00 K1200RS, '02 K1200RS, '03 K1200GT, '04 R1150R'04 R1150RT, '05 K1200S, '06 K1200R, '07 K1200R, '09 K1300GT & 2013 R1200RT-P  - Beemers owned still or sold.

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10Back to top Go down   Break in to Fuel Tank? Empty Re: Break in to Fuel Tank? Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:45 am

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@Two Wheels Better wrote:Watch Motobins and Motorworks for deals. I managed a complete, silver painted petrol cap assembly (without lock cylinder) for less than AU$100 delivered to OZ. I painted it black, slipped my lock into it and 'called it good', as they say in Yankee land. $550? Really? Astounding.
Well done. Yeah. I too was a little taken aback at the new price but then I have come to expect it from BMW. Someone once came up with the acronom "Bloody Money waster". I know they are right but I still love my BM. Probably just as much of a money waster as a hardly but I think in the long term us beema luva's still come out on top in the handling, reliability and practicality stakes

WandererK1

 . . .now Im thinking I shall look out for a spare cap before I need it...

To my mind that would be a good move

 . . . . . Fwiw, I have a small lathe,   Come have a coffee n chat sometime, never know when contacts are useful  Smile   Jeremy . . . . .

Yep will do man. In the next few weeks. I am a little tied up until about beginning December but after that . . for sure

    

11Back to top Go down   Break in to Fuel Tank? Empty Re: Break in to Fuel Tank? Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:47 am

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@sidecar paul wrote:Be made,
Just out of interest, could you drill a hole in the mangled cap as per my picture, to see if there would be any flaws in my idea? 

If my solution works, it may not be a bad idea to drill the hole in your new cap and fit a rubber bung to seal the hole.
 Sod's law would then say that the problem would never reoccur. cheers

Paul.
Hi Paul. I would but the old stuff went out in the bin this morning.

Sorry.

But I cannot see any reason why it would not work

    

12Back to top Go down   Break in to Fuel Tank? Empty Re: Break in to Fuel Tank? Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:47 am

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Think I might try that since I have a spare to try it on. ....Same as the hole beside the shift lever of an auto transmission in case it gets stuck....! I know you may not be too familiar with that one Paul......


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1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
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1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 42,640 miles.

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