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1Back to top Go down   '88 k100 not starting Empty '88 k100 not starting Tue May 07, 2024 8:30 am

mmgee123

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was almost 100% my issue was a dead battery, (could get the bike started by bump starting) just replaced the battery (accidentally tried to start without plugging the big electrical plug in back in don’t know if that’s important, and it was trying to start) but then i plugged it in and it’s making the same buzzing sound as it did earlier when the battery was dead, any help?

    

2Back to top Go down   '88 k100 not starting Empty Re: '88 k100 not starting Tue May 07, 2024 2:15 pm

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Is this the same problem the Brick was having in your starts runs and dies post in early Nov 2023?

Buzzing sometimes means faulty electrical connections so verify the connections to the battery are clean and tight, the battery ground connections of both the battery ground cable terminal and the transmission surface are clean and tight, and that the fuel injection control unit plug is fully engaged to the unit and cannot be disconnected from the unit by pulling outward on the cord end of the plug.


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Laitch wrote:Is this the same problem the Brick was having in your starts runs and dies post in early Nov 2023?

Buzzing sometimes means faulty electrical connections so verify the connections to the battery are clean and tight, the battery ground connections of both the battery ground cable terminal and the transmission surface are clean and tight, and that the fuel injection control unit plug is fully engaged to the unit and cannot be disconnected from the unit by pulling outward on the cord end of the plug.
no sadly it’s not the same issue that was just the fuel filter i’m much better at taking care of things in that nature compared to electrical work, i’ll give that a try later today and reply back, another thing that happened when i swapped out the battery the headlight and blinkers weren’t coming on anymore? so maybe it is just a faulty connection

    

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mmgee123 wrote:no sadly it’s not the same issue that was just the fuel filter . . .
Go back to that thread and include the explanation you've posted above to finish off that discussion. Your inclusion of the headlight and blinker symptoms in this thread raises more ideas that could be explored after you complete the electrical connection cleaning and inspection recommended so far.


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mmgee123 wrote:was almost 100% my issue was a dead battery, (could get the bike started by bump starting) just replaced the battery (accidentally tried to start without plugging the big electrical plug in back in don’t know if that’s important, and it was trying to start) but then i plugged it in and it’s making the same buzzing sound as it did earlier when the battery was dead, any help?

I had that issue on my RS. Narrowed it down to the flasher relay. Swapped in another one and it persisted. But I still belleved it was the problem so swapped another one in and problem solved. 2 dud relays binned.


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6Back to top Go down   '88 k100 not starting Empty Re: '88 k100 not starting Wed May 08, 2024 11:04 pm

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Lever the box off the flasher relay (a couple of small screwdrivers will do it) and watch the on-board mechanical relays. The black cover underneath is not attached to the relay board so you can't do any damage there. Lever up a long side, then a short side, then the other long side. The cover will bend alarmingly but it should come out at that point.

Mind you, if that is the problem the noise will be somewhat louder...


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7Back to top Go down   '88 k100 not starting Empty Re: '88 k100 not starting Thu May 09, 2024 2:55 am

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Dai wrote:Lever the box off the flasher relay (a couple of small screwdrivers will do it) and watch the on-board mechanical relays. The black cover underneath is not attached to the relay board so you can't do any damage there. Lever up a long side, then a short side, then the other long side. The cover will bend alarmingly but it should come out at that point.

Mind you, if that is the problem the noise will be somewhat louder...
the flasher relays would be the smaller vertical box and not the one you remove the tank to get access too right? and which relays would it be?

    

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With the key on, depress a turn signal switch or the hazard switch and listen for a tell-tale click or buzz. The turn signal relay could be marked with an OEM part number of 61 31 1 459 224, or the earlier part number 61 31 1 459 004. It sits towards the rear left of the relax box and is held down by two small screws.


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9Back to top Go down   '88 k100 not starting Empty Re: '88 k100 not starting Thu May 09, 2024 4:40 am

Dai

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You do need to lift the tank. It's the green one at the back of the box and has a flying lead, so you may be able to get it out without taking the tank off.


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