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1Back to top Go down   The Emperor's New Clothes Empty The Emperor's New Clothes on Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:00 pm

Dai

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... with thanks to Matthew who agreed a tank swap and shipped from Oz to Northern Ireland.

The Emperor's New Clothes 1

The Emperor's New Clothes 2

The Emperor's New Clothes 3

The Emperor's New Clothes 4

And if you missed it - thanks to Will for the tank and seat hump badges!! Very Happy


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'83 K100 upgraded to K100RS spec
Others...
'78 Moto Guzzi 850-T3, '79 Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California,'93 Moto Guzzi 1100ie California,
'03 Suzuki Blandit GSF600SK3 (NFS any more because wifey has claimed it)
    

2Back to top Go down   The Emperor's New Clothes Empty Re: The Emperor's New Clothes on Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:16 pm

Woodie

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Stylin' Dai!! It's great to see a much loved, much used, and very personalised K   Very Happy


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3Back to top Go down   The Emperor's New Clothes Empty Re: The Emperor's New Clothes on Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:22 pm

charlie99

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is there a pic ?   sorry cant see it .
edit

just my slow internet .....bugga


looks fantastic Dai

cheers to matt and will


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%OThe Emperor's New Clothes Au-log10

"redframe" rs "bitsa"  with many contributions from the k100 community ,,with many thanks
    

4Back to top Go down   The Emperor's New Clothes Empty Re: The Emperor's New Clothes on Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:19 am

Matthew-Brisbane

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Cant see it either  ?


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5Back to top Go down   The Emperor's New Clothes Empty Re: The Emperor's New Clothes on Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:33 am

Dai

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Slow downloads Matt. Seems there's a problem in Austria where the server is. Go away and make a cup of coffee.


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'83 K100 upgraded to K100RS spec
Others...
'78 Moto Guzzi 850-T3, '79 Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California,'93 Moto Guzzi 1100ie California,
'03 Suzuki Blandit GSF600SK3 (NFS any more because wifey has claimed it)
    

6Back to top Go down   The Emperor's New Clothes Empty Re: The Emperor's New Clothes on Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:36 pm

Matthew-Brisbane

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Dai would love  to see what and how you did the twin headlight setup


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1986 K100 RS Motorsport
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2011 R1200 GS
    

7Back to top Go down   The Emperor's New Clothes Empty Re: The Emperor's New Clothes on Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:28 pm

Dai

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Relatively easily, surprisingly enough - once I'd worked it out! They are twin head lights, not one high and one dip:-

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-Hella-90mm-Dipped-Main-Beam-Headlight-with-mount-plugs-for-Kit-Car-Hot-Rod/361872412328?epid=529643205&hash=item544146cea8:g:aFgAAOSwA3dYb7j2

I'll put some pictures up of the mounting frame at the weekend.


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'83 K100 upgraded to K100RS spec
Others...
'78 Moto Guzzi 850-T3, '79 Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California,'93 Moto Guzzi 1100ie California,
'03 Suzuki Blandit GSF600SK3 (NFS any more because wifey has claimed it)
    

8Back to top Go down   The Emperor's New Clothes Empty Re: The Emperor's New Clothes on Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:07 am

Stumpy

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I think the twin lights really make the bike look better. I have thought about doing similar to mine.


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9Back to top Go down   The Emperor's New Clothes Empty Re: The Emperor's New Clothes on Sat Aug 24, 2019 5:12 pm

Dai

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The Emperor's New Eyes

I was using LFB's original silver fairing as the pattern while I was doing this.

The first thing about this is that you can't do it with the old pressed-steel fairing spider. You must be using the newer tubular steel one. The good news is that it's a drop fit for the older one. Next: you need to cut off the threaded boss on the front left because it will foul the bottom crossbar. I got lucky and picked up a freshly powder-coated spider from ebay which I promptly ruined by hacksawing off the boss and forgetting to paint the cut surface.

I made the framework from 25mm x 3mm for the top and bottom bars and 20mm x 3mm for the uprights. I chose to use stainless steel because I'm lazy and the thought of preparation and paint hit the snooze button. Measure, cut and drill so that they fit over the threaded mounts in the fairing. You can't see it but I did actually finish the ends in a half-circle.

With apologies to Bolt-On Bits because I stole this picture from their ebay website (link above):

The Emperor's New Clothes H5

Each headlight comes with four adjuster posts (fitted to the headlight) and three mounts (the things that look like plastic knobs). Three mounts is all you need for secure lateral and azimuth adjustment. I removed the lower outer adjusters from each headlight and bolted the two frames together - you can just see the straps in the middle of the second picture. Also, if you check the fourth picture you will see that the lower crossbar has to be relieved by 5mm along most of its length to allow the fairing base to go back in.

The Emperor's New Clothes H1

The Emperor's New Clothes H2

The Emperor's New Clothes H3

It was at this point that I found I had to cut off a small lug from each headlight body because it prevented the two headlights from fitting into the joined frames. If you go this route you'll find them quickly enough. It wasn't anything structural in this application of the lights. I figured out the approximate centre of each headlight relative to the original headlight opening and cut two uprights that were bolted to the frame hole that would have been occupied by the discarded adjusters (bottom left and right, fixed with a hex-headed bolt). With the uprights still bolted to the headlight frames, I clamped the whole assembly to the lower crossbar and welded them on.

The top z-bars were a bit of trial and error until I got them to fit. Working with a fairing on the bench made this a lot easier than it sounds. I clamped a length of the 20mm bar in the vice and drafting in my old friend the BFH to help, beat the shit out of it until the angle from the crossbar to the top of the headlight frame was correct. I marked the bar just before the back of the headlight frame (it's just visible on the far side in pic 3) and beat the bar back the other way. I cut the excess bar off and chucked it in the re-use box. Making the second one was easier as it was just a copy of the first. As with the bottom uprights, I bolted them to the headlight frames, clamped the z-bars to the top crossbar and welded them up.

Not while they were still in the fairing, I hasten to add!!

A bit of measuring later and I'd figured out I needed two M5 55mm standoffs at the top and two M5 30mm standoffs at the bottom which would clear the headlight adjusters to allow the front panel to fit. Just about this point Simon (Ringfad) dropped by and on seeing this, said,

'Someone's going to want to know how you did that. Did you take any pictures?'

Of course I didn't!!!! What do you take me for??? Razz

The front panel is 3mm plastic to allow for flexibility in fitting. Once I had the plasticard shaped to fit the headlight opening, it was a case of very careful measuring to figure out the centre of the headlights. The cutting circle was made 5mm bigger to allow for headlight adjustment. Getting the hole centres for the standoffs was easy; a small dollop of copper grease on each one and sneak up with the plasticard.

It took three attempts and two destroyed sheets of plasticard before I got the headlight holes somewhere near right. I cut them by mounting my Bosch/Black & Decker frankenstein of a jigsaw upside down in the vice. It was run at the slowest speed possible with a coarse scrolling blade fitted. I wrecked the first two by trying to cut too quickly and both went off the circle and part-melted the plasticard. I had more patience with the last one because it was the last one.

The Emperor's New Clothes H4

A bit of rubber trim covered up the worst of the mess. The mounting holes were drilled out to take 8mm ID grommets which were fitted with 8mm OD x 5mm spacers to take the pressure from the dome-head allen bolts. The washers were form-B style - bigger than standard but smaller than a penny washer. The four COB LEDs were wired into the sidelight circuit and they must be doing their job because I've pissed off at least one taxi driver who flashed at me.

Yes, the wiring loom does need modifying. One of the reasons' for taking LFB through a long overhaul was that the wiring loom was starting to develop some minor faults that were irritating me, so I made a new one. Modifying a standard loom to add the relay is actually quite simple. These headlights do not have a normal H4 bulb. It's a single H7-bulb with the dip beam controlled by dropping a shutter inside the headlight. The shutter is triggered by wiring the existing white high-beam wire into to the flying tail (see first pic). The other pin is earth. The H7 needs a permanent supply controlled from the headlight supply (the yellow/white wire in the existing wiring loom):-

The Emperor's New Clothes Wiring

What's good about this is that

a. it fits the existing headlamp cutout
b. there's no permanent modifications to the original bike (okay - apart from sawing off that spider boss!)
c. you finally get to see where you're going.

Final comment? If I was doing this again I'd raise the headlights by 10-20mm above the original headlight's centreline. As it is, on full lock the fork legs are just catching the bottom of the headlight connector.

[Edit] Wiring mods updated. I forgot that on European bikes with a headlight on/off switch the standard flash switch will just end up operating the shutter (as happened to me at first... Rolling Eyes ). The flash button in the left switch has a blue/green and a white wire. The white wire needs chasing back to the high/dip switch and removing completely. Add a new wire from the contact vacated by the white wire and run it to the second relay (red/black here because that's a combination that BMW don't use on the K). Note that it has to be a type B switching relay (load shed relay) because a type A switching relay has the 87 and 87B contacts linked togther. The end result of using a type A will be permanent hi-beam. When you press the flash switch now you will provide power to the headlight and lift the shutter at the same time. However, if you're in the habit of riding with the headlight on all the time then the single relay mod will do.


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'83 K100 upgraded to K100RS spec
Others...
'78 Moto Guzzi 850-T3, '79 Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California,'93 Moto Guzzi 1100ie California,
'03 Suzuki Blandit GSF600SK3 (NFS any more because wifey has claimed it)
    

10Back to top Go down   The Emperor's New Clothes Empty Re: The Emperor's New Clothes on Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:35 pm

Snod Blatter

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That looks superb. When does the kit go into production? Laughing


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11Back to top Go down   The Emperor's New Clothes Empty Re: The Emperor's New Clothes on Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:40 pm

Dai

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{Rude message to Jack goes here} Razz


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'83 K100 upgraded to K100RS spec
Others...
'78 Moto Guzzi 850-T3, '79 Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California,'93 Moto Guzzi 1100ie California,
'03 Suzuki Blandit GSF600SK3 (NFS any more because wifey has claimed it)
    

12Back to top Go down   The Emperor's New Clothes Empty Re: The Emperor's New Clothes on Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:50 pm

indian036

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Irrelevant aside:
LFB followed by a number is the registration for a Licenced Fishing Boat used by a professional fisherman in NSW, Oz. Your reference to LFB always reminds me of one of my Dad's best friends who was a professional fisherman on the Clarence River in northern NSW. Great bloke and always kind to the little kid I was at the time.

Bill


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1985 K100RT  VIN 0028991  My original Very Happy   (Historic rego)
1985 K100RT  VIN 0029036  BOB the Blue Old Bike  (Historic rego)
1990 K100LT  VIN 0190452  Work in progress
1984 K100RT  VIN 0023022  Work needing lots of progress

1986 K100RT  VIN 0090542  Work needing lots and lots of progress
1993 K1100LT  VIN 0183046  Work in progress
1993 K75S  VIN 0213045  Newest toy, slightly non-original
    

13Back to top Go down   The Emperor's New Clothes Empty Re: The Emperor's New Clothes on Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:51 am

Dai

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I think that's a good thing...?????? Shocked


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'83 K100 upgraded to K100RS spec
Others...
'78 Moto Guzzi 850-T3, '79 Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California,'93 Moto Guzzi 1100ie California,
'03 Suzuki Blandit GSF600SK3 (NFS any more because wifey has claimed it)
    

14Back to top Go down   The Emperor's New Clothes Empty Re: The Emperor's New Clothes on Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:42 am

indian036

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@Dai wrote:I think that's a good thing...?????? Shocked
For me, yes. LFB brings back pleasant childhood memories. 
One day I hope to meet your two wheeled version and it’s owner. 

Bill


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1985 K100RT  VIN 0028991  My original Very Happy   (Historic rego)
1985 K100RT  VIN 0029036  BOB the Blue Old Bike  (Historic rego)
1990 K100LT  VIN 0190452  Work in progress
1984 K100RT  VIN 0023022  Work needing lots of progress

1986 K100RT  VIN 0090542  Work needing lots and lots of progress
1993 K1100LT  VIN 0183046  Work in progress
1993 K75S  VIN 0213045  Newest toy, slightly non-original
    

15Back to top Go down   The Emperor's New Clothes Empty Re: The Emperor's New Clothes on Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:46 pm

Dai

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That would be the second time Very Happy I was there when you visited Newgrange.


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'83 K100 upgraded to K100RS spec
Others...
'78 Moto Guzzi 850-T3, '79 Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California,'93 Moto Guzzi 1100ie California,
'03 Suzuki Blandit GSF600SK3 (NFS any more because wifey has claimed it)
    

16Back to top Go down   The Emperor's New Clothes Empty Re: The Emperor's New Clothes on Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:57 am

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Savage healight setup Dai.

Do you get flashed using the Angel eyes as DRLs or do they knock off at night. I put a couple of those on the wing mirror of the LT and drivers were flashing me a lot so I switch them off after dusk?

I like your tank badges. The Emperor's New Clothes 447221


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"The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page." - St. Augustine from 1600 years ago & still true!

Bike: K100LT 1988. 0172363. AKA the Bullion Brick! Mods: k1100 screen and stands.
K1: 1990. 6374189. Custom Stealth Black paint.
    

17Back to top Go down   The Emperor's New Clothes Empty Re: The Emperor's New Clothes on Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:09 pm

Dai

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They're attached to the sidelight circuit Will, so they're on all the time. The two lower (black) ones under the front of the fairing are halogens and are switched, just to save the battery when the engine isn't running. I guess if I'm smart I could have put them on a voltage sensor.. never mind.

As for flashing drivers (them flashing me, not the other way round!), 98 times out of 100 they're the ones with misaligned headlights anyway. If they're flashing me, it means they've seen me and that's the object of the game.

Got any more of those tank badges? Very Happy


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'83 K100 upgraded to K100RS spec
Others...
'78 Moto Guzzi 850-T3, '79 Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California,'93 Moto Guzzi 1100ie California,
'03 Suzuki Blandit GSF600SK3 (NFS any more because wifey has claimed it)
    

18Back to top Go down   The Emperor's New Clothes Empty Re: The Emperor's New Clothes on Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:57 pm

indian036

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@Dai wrote:That would be the second time Very Happy I was there when you visited Newgrange.
I stand corrected and my memory gets a slap on the wrist!

Looking forward to meeting again. 😊

Bill


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1985 K100RT  VIN 0028991  My original Very Happy   (Historic rego)
1985 K100RT  VIN 0029036  BOB the Blue Old Bike  (Historic rego)
1990 K100LT  VIN 0190452  Work in progress
1984 K100RT  VIN 0023022  Work needing lots of progress

1986 K100RT  VIN 0090542  Work needing lots and lots of progress
1993 K1100LT  VIN 0183046  Work in progress
1993 K75S  VIN 0213045  Newest toy, slightly non-original
    

19Back to top Go down   The Emperor's New Clothes Empty Re: The Emperor's New Clothes on Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:27 pm

88

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@Dai wrote:
Got any more of those tank badges? Very Happy

I'm out...


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"The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page." - St. Augustine from 1600 years ago & still true!

Bike: K100LT 1988. 0172363. AKA the Bullion Brick! Mods: k1100 screen and stands.
K1: 1990. 6374189. Custom Stealth Black paint.
    

20Back to top Go down   The Emperor's New Clothes Empty Re: The Emperor's New Clothes on Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:39 pm

Dai

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Aw crap. Sad


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'83 K100 upgraded to K100RS spec
Others...
'78 Moto Guzzi 850-T3, '79 Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California,'93 Moto Guzzi 1100ie California,
'03 Suzuki Blandit GSF600SK3 (NFS any more because wifey has claimed it)
    

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