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1Back to top Go down   inlet manifolds Empty inlet manifolds Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:51 am

darren 08

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hi my k is restricted and the restriction is in the inlet manifolds does any one have a diagram on how to remove the restriction ive had a look and before i try to strip anything down i appreciate a little instruction so i do it right thanks Very Happy

    

2Back to top Go down   inlet manifolds Empty Re: inlet manifolds Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:48 am

Inge K.

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Choke plates is mounted in the rubber sleeves above the TB's.

You need cut the four oetiker clamps above the TB's, disconnect the hose between the plenum and air filter housing, and crank vent hose at the rear of the plenum.....
to remove the plenum.

Could be a good idea to get new rubber sleeves and crank vent hose before starting....
as these get brittle and cracks after years in service, then leading to air leaks.

The clamp at the rearside of the plenum is a bit hard to reach.
In my opinion the best tool to use is a short 1/4" ratchet, a medium extension
and a 7 mm socket.

Good luck!


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3Back to top Go down   inlet manifolds Empty Re: inlet manifolds Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:59 pm

darren 08

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well got em out lets hope it makes for a better running bike

    

4Back to top Go down   inlet manifolds Empty Re: inlet manifolds Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:26 pm

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darren 08 wrote:well got em out lets hope it makes for a better running bike

I'll be interested to hear how you get on Darren, Mine's restricted. I rode it for a while without a restrictor before deciding it was better to stick to the letter of the law. After fitting it I would say it made very little difference in the lower rev range due to the bike's torque but it tops out at 6k rpms. (Still enough to get me to the magic 160kph on the run to Antrim but I'm not saying on which side of the border inlet manifolds 652573 )
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"The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page." - St. Augustine from 1600 years ago & still true!

K1 - 1989 - AKA Titan (unique K1/K1100RS hybrid by Andreas Esterhammer)
K1100RS - 1995. AKA Rudolf Von Schmurf (in a million bits)
K100RS - 1991 AKA Ronnie. Cafe racer project bike
K75RTP - 1994
K75C - 1991 AKA Jim Beam. In boxes. 
K1100LT 1992 - AKA Big Red (gone)
K100LT - 1988 - AKA the Bullion brick. Should never have sold it.
    

5Back to top Go down   inlet manifolds Empty Re: inlet manifolds Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:30 pm

Lucky Lou

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Why are they restricted ?? my K75 thrives at 6000rpm the acceleration pins your ears back above 4.5k to red line at 8.5k

lou

    

6Back to top Go down   inlet manifolds Empty Re: inlet manifolds Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:11 pm

darren 08

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dont know why but i guess the last owener must of had a learner licence and had to have em in but she will be back to full power when i get her running again as its refusing to start again:x

    

7Back to top Go down   inlet manifolds Empty Re: inlet manifolds Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:18 pm

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Yep- to keep it within the new EU regs for power to weight ratio. I let my licence lapse and had to retake my test. Restrictor has to stay on for 24months from test pass date..
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"The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page." - St. Augustine from 1600 years ago & still true!

K1 - 1989 - AKA Titan (unique K1/K1100RS hybrid by Andreas Esterhammer)
K1100RS - 1995. AKA Rudolf Von Schmurf (in a million bits)
K100RS - 1991 AKA Ronnie. Cafe racer project bike
K75RTP - 1994
K75C - 1991 AKA Jim Beam. In boxes. 
K1100LT 1992 - AKA Big Red (gone)
K100LT - 1988 - AKA the Bullion brick. Should never have sold it.
    

8Back to top Go down   inlet manifolds Empty Re: inlet manifolds Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:25 pm

Lucky Lou

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E U iddiots they will make hi vis compulsery next..............inlet manifolds 78846

Lou

    

9Back to top Go down   inlet manifolds Empty Re: inlet manifolds Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:44 am

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Lucky Lou wrote:E U iddiots they will make hi vis compulsery next..............inlet manifolds 78846

Lou

Bird is on the Wing - I have joined a few MAG protest rides the past 2 years, seems as the Frogs are leading the way. What a Face


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10Back to top Go down   inlet manifolds Empty Re: inlet manifolds Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:57 am

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"well got em out lets hope it makes for a better running bike"

Hey Darren, any chance of a photo of the restrictors please?


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11Back to top Go down   inlet manifolds Empty Re: inlet manifolds Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:39 am

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Lucky Lou wrote:E U iddiots they will make hi vis compulsery next..............inlet manifolds 78846

Lou

In this case i think it was our own home-grown iddiots (sic).

In more enlightened countries, like the UK, there was a restriction for two years after you passed your test, but the ability to go directly to a full powered bike if you were over 24, and took further training. I think it is called "direct access"

The Irish politians, in there wisdom Shocked ommitted that part of the new licencing, so there was no ability to go directly to unrestricted. My mate had to resit his test after a lapsed licence, and is stuck on a restricted bike for 2 years as well. He's 48.

I think they have now introduced it, but too late for anybody already passed their test.


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             '87 K100RS 0140995 (Gone)
             '97 K1100LT 0188024 (Gone)
             '08 K1200GT Wedge - but still a K
             '08 Transalp 700
    

12Back to top Go down   inlet manifolds Empty Re: inlet manifolds Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:24 am

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Short description of restrictors and photo please

    

13Back to top Go down   inlet manifolds Empty Re: inlet manifolds Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:09 pm

darren 08

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hi im having trouble loading pic but the restrictors are basically like a large washer and fit in the inlet manifolds

    

14Back to top Go down   inlet manifolds Empty Re: inlet manifolds Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:31 pm

Two Wheels Better

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darren 08 wrote:hi im having trouble loading pics

This is one way, and I find it quite easy. Follow it step by step:

https://www.k100-forum.com/t4267-posting-a-photo-update


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15Back to top Go down   inlet manifolds Empty Re: inlet manifolds Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:53 pm

Lucky Lou

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Corkboy wrote:
In more enlightened countries, like the UK, there was a restriction for two years after you passed your test, but the ability to go directly to a full powered bike if you were over 24, and took further training. I think it is called "direct access"
I think they have now introduced it, but too late for anybody already passed their test.

Fortunately for me i passed my bike test in 1970 (despite falling off half way through ) and was then free to ride what ever i wanted. I was out of biking for about 10 years and took a "back to biking" course through choice (and to please the wife) it was not compulsory but well worth the effort.

From an "Enlightened Country".....you are a having a laugh inlet manifolds 44271 Lou

    

16Back to top Go down   inlet manifolds Empty Re: inlet manifolds Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:33 am

Inge K.

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nino wrote:photo please
Basically it looks like this:

inlet manifolds Plombe10


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17Back to top Go down   inlet manifolds Empty Re: inlet manifolds Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:27 pm

darren 08

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thats them

    

18Back to top Go down   inlet manifolds Empty Re: inlet manifolds Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:38 pm

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Uh, not being from an EU member country, how the hay would anyone know if you had these in place or not?

I'm also chuckling that an old K100 is considered to have enough power to weight to qualify. The max power to weight ratio must be awfully low.


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1984 K-100RS Alaska Blue w/Parelever and 16V wheels.

1984 K-100RS Metallic Madison stock

1986 R-80G/S w/1000 cc engine

2007 Harley Davidson Street Rod Mirage Orange w/XR1200 wheels, Race Tech, True Track, Works Performance shocks

2007 Harley Davidson Street Rod Vivid Black stock

1993-ish K-100/1100RT/LT hemaphrodite frankenbike thingy to be painted satin black from a rattle can eventually
    

19Back to top Go down   inlet manifolds Empty Re: inlet manifolds Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:47 am

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Themason wrote:Uh, not being from an EU member country, how the hay would anyone know if you had these in place or not? .....

The police can take your bike off you and bring it to a test centre to Dyno test it for power output. (Usually only happens if you go past them on the back wheel or do something equally silly.)

However most people fit them for insurance reasons, myself included. If the bike doesn't conform to the regs then you are not licensed to ride it and consequently you are not insured !


The old brick is a excellent candidate for these kits because the low down torque means that the lost power is only felt in the very upper end of the range. I've had no problems exceeding 160kph/100mph on mine....but of course only on a private road! inlet manifolds 652573


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inlet manifolds Ir-log1188....May contain nuts!inlet manifolds Ir-log11

"The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page." - St. Augustine from 1600 years ago & still true!

K1 - 1989 - AKA Titan (unique K1/K1100RS hybrid by Andreas Esterhammer)
K1100RS - 1995. AKA Rudolf Von Schmurf (in a million bits)
K100RS - 1991 AKA Ronnie. Cafe racer project bike
K75RTP - 1994
K75C - 1991 AKA Jim Beam. In boxes. 
K1100LT 1992 - AKA Big Red (gone)
K100LT - 1988 - AKA the Bullion brick. Should never have sold it.
    

20Back to top Go down   inlet manifolds Empty Re: inlet manifolds Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:40 pm

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Are all the roads in Ireland private, 88?inlet manifolds 652573

Paul.


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21Back to top Go down   inlet manifolds Empty Re: inlet manifolds Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:10 pm

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[/quote]
The police can take your bike off you and bring it to a test centre to Dyno test it for power output. (Usually only happens if you go past them on the back wheel or do something equally silly.)
[/quote]

Now THAT would make a winning photo 88! Laughing Laughing


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22Back to top Go down   inlet manifolds Empty Re: inlet manifolds Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:08 pm

Corkboy

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My mate, who just passed his test, rang his insurance company to tell them.

Their reply was "thats nice, but you know you have to leave the restrictor in for two years or you won't be covered".

He had been tempted to take it out until that conversation. If they are telling you, then they will check if you have an accident. And no restrictor - no insurance. That ain't worth the grief.


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Corkboy '87 K100RS SE (The black one - one of the two bikes I'm sorry I sold)
             '87 K100RS 0140995 (Gone)
             '97 K1100LT 0188024 (Gone)
             '08 K1200GT Wedge - but still a K
             '08 Transalp 700
    

23Back to top Go down   inlet manifolds Empty Re: inlet manifolds Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:59 pm

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sidecar paul wrote:Are all the roads in Ireland private, 88?inlet manifolds 652573

Paul.

Didn't you know that Paul? 👅


MT350Explorer wrote:
(Usually only happens if you go past them on the back wheel or do something equally silly.) [/quote]

Now THAT would make a winning photo 88! Laughing Laughing[/quote]

Yep Dave...only it's hard to take a picture when you're on your arse!! Wink


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inlet manifolds Ir-log1188....May contain nuts!inlet manifolds Ir-log11

"The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page." - St. Augustine from 1600 years ago & still true!

K1 - 1989 - AKA Titan (unique K1/K1100RS hybrid by Andreas Esterhammer)
K1100RS - 1995. AKA Rudolf Von Schmurf (in a million bits)
K100RS - 1991 AKA Ronnie. Cafe racer project bike
K75RTP - 1994
K75C - 1991 AKA Jim Beam. In boxes. 
K1100LT 1992 - AKA Big Red (gone)
K100LT - 1988 - AKA the Bullion brick. Should never have sold it.
    

24Back to top Go down   inlet manifolds Empty Re: inlet manifolds Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:10 pm

darren 08

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sure glad im not a learner driver or need it restricted thats why i took it out dosent apply to me

    

25Back to top Go down   inlet manifolds Empty Re: inlet manifolds Sun Dec 23, 2012 2:16 pm

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Geez the EU is like looking at a contemporary industrial society through one of those wavy circus mirrors where everything is twisted and distorted. I still shake my head at my one opportunity to tour in Europe on my US registered K100RS. The tires I had on it then, Dunlop K291's weren't legal for use in Europe because some stuffy drone at the TUV didn't sign off on their use on my year make and model of BMW. Eff that crap. The TUV would come un effing glued at a couple of my bikes, like the blue K bike in my avatar and a breathed on Harley Street Rod with XR-1200 wheels. Can't put the TUV approved tire on either of those bikes any more.


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I live in a parallel universe but have a vacation home in reality :arrow:

1984 K-100RS Alaska Blue w/Parelever and 16V wheels.

1984 K-100RS Metallic Madison stock

1986 R-80G/S w/1000 cc engine

2007 Harley Davidson Street Rod Mirage Orange w/XR1200 wheels, Race Tech, True Track, Works Performance shocks

2007 Harley Davidson Street Rod Vivid Black stock

1993-ish K-100/1100RT/LT hemaphrodite frankenbike thingy to be painted satin black from a rattle can eventually
    

26Back to top Go down   inlet manifolds Empty Re: inlet manifolds Sun Dec 23, 2012 2:17 pm

Themason

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Geez the EU is like looking at a contemporary industrial society through one of those wavy circus mirrors where everything is twisted and distorted. I still shake my head at my one opportunity to tour in Europe on my US registered K100RS. The tires I had on it then, Dunlop K291's weren't legal for use in Europe because some stuffy drone at the TUV didn't sign off on their use on my year make and model of BMW. Eff that crap. The TUV would come un effing glued at a couple of my bikes, like the blue K bike in my avatar and a breathed on Harley Street Rod with XR-1200 wheels. Can't put the TUV approved tire on either of those bikes any more.


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I live in a parallel universe but have a vacation home in reality :arrow:

1984 K-100RS Alaska Blue w/Parelever and 16V wheels.

1984 K-100RS Metallic Madison stock

1986 R-80G/S w/1000 cc engine

2007 Harley Davidson Street Rod Mirage Orange w/XR1200 wheels, Race Tech, True Track, Works Performance shocks

2007 Harley Davidson Street Rod Vivid Black stock

1993-ish K-100/1100RT/LT hemaphrodite frankenbike thingy to be painted satin black from a rattle can eventually
    

27Back to top Go down   inlet manifolds Empty Re: inlet manifolds Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:16 pm

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Wow I have been complaining about the law makers in Aus with their stupid low speed limits on roads with bends and speed  cameras everywhere, but restrictors in an old k, sounds like the insanity is as bad or maybe worse over there.  Mad AB

    

28Back to top Go down   inlet manifolds Empty Re: inlet manifolds Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:46 pm

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Well when in Queensland the idiot who signs of on all the motorcycle related legislation so that it can be used in law openly says he doesnt think bikes have a place on our roads and cant ride and doesnt have a licence then there is little hope.


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29Back to top Go down   inlet manifolds Empty Re: inlet manifolds Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:56 am

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Having lived in many countries around the EU but mostly England, I can assure you that many things that the UK government blame the EU for are nothing to do with the EU. Besides riding bikes I also fly a microlight (ultralite to the US readers) and the rules for bikes or microlights are much more slack in France than in the UK.
Bikes have no annual test and no tax here. You can do any modifications that you like. The US member who was talking about the TUV not liking his rear tyre is not talking about EU rules, but German rules. I can put any make or size of tyre that I want on my or the wifes bike.
As for the microlight, there is no airworthiness check, no medical required for the licence and no permissions needed to fly from your own land.

    

30Back to top Go down   inlet manifolds Empty Re: inlet manifolds Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:07 am

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Very true.

It doesn't help when bodies such as MAG go and alarm people by publishing scare stories (probably to boost their membership) such as the fairly recent campaign that alleged the EU was about to ban owners from any changes from OE spec whatsoever (the EU discussion was about the power modifications being made to mopeds by kids).


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31Back to top Go down   inlet manifolds Empty Re: inlet manifolds Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:40 pm

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interesting re restrictors, mine still goes like hell seems a little sluggish till warmed right up, I'm a biggish gut 130kg so perhaps sh'll never pin my ears bag? she still woound up to 220km tw up, 320kg all up. wonder if she is restricted, must pull it all apart in the inards one day.
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