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Laitch


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stevieboy63 wrote:The test light is no longer dim, the light switch is fine and all is working as it should. 
Except the side stand safety switch isn't working as it should. Like you assert, maybe police motos enabled starting with the side stand down for some reason unfathomable to mere civilians. Member jbt has experience in law enforcement with these motos; maybe he could shed some light on this.

What I'm interested to know is if the moto will crank—or at least lurch— if starting in gear is attempted. Smile  It seems that your work would breach the clutch safety switch too.

    

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92KK 84WW Olaf

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K1100 starts in gear provided the side stand is retracted and clutch is pulled.


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Laitch

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92KK 84WW Olaf wrote:K1100 starts in gear provided the side stand is retracted and clutch is pulled.
That's correct, but his direct ground connection to the starter relay seems likely to bypass both those so-called safety devices, not just the side stand switch. For clarity, I'll rephrase my question.

Will the motorcycle lurch when it's in gear with the clutch hand lever not pulled if the ignition is switched on and the starter button is bumped?


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chris846 wrote:Excellent diagram!

The clown avatar is gender neutral btw.
I’m afraid my avatar makes it quite clear ‘what side I dress’.


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92KK 84WW Olaf

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Laitch wrote:
92KK 84WW Olaf wrote:K1100 starts in gear provided the side stand is retracted and clutch is pulled.
That's correct, but his direct ground connection to the starter relay seems likely to bypass both those so-called safety devices, not just the side stand switch. For clarity, I'll rephrase my question.

Will the motorcycle lurch when it's in gear with the clutch hand lever not pulled if the ignition is switched on and the starter button is bumped?
Most definitely it should be doing that, if BOTH side stand and clutch cut outs are by passed.


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 49,200 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 63,390 miles

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

56Back to top Go down   starter circuit problem - Page 2 Empty Re: starter circuit problem Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:21 am

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92KK 84WW Olaf wrote:
Laitch wrote:
92KK 84WW Olaf wrote:K1100 starts in gear provided the side stand is retracted and clutch is pulled.
That's correct, but his direct ground connection to the starter relay seems likely to bypass both those so-called safety devices, not just the side stand switch. For clarity, I'll rephrase my question.

Will the motorcycle lurch when it's in gear with the clutch hand lever not pulled if the ignition is switched on and the starter button is bumped?
Most definitely it should be doing that, if BOTH side stand and clutch cut outs are by passed.
I have reconnected the clutch switch to the wiring from the clutch lever, so it will not turn the engine over until the clutch lever is pulled in.

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