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good going halo ...nice win ..

that chip looks typical of many of the quad op amps available just about everywhere "lm 324" rings a bell as well as all the tlo74 - 84 series

    

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Pure luck but I great outcome for air flow the MAF sensor fits directly (and very snugly) on the back of the pelum chamber.






Check out the difference in intake size



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Purchased $50 worth of mixed lollies from Jaycar (tandy equiv for os) and I am ready to creat a level translator from 12V to 5V (processors Vdd rail) to 12V throw to the Ljet, looked at the AFM original and still sends temp to board so that sensor will move to MAF

all I did to set up both for calibration was to epoxy both together for now

Writing of processor code is being handled by one of my works software (firmware) guys for now (lucky me , he is working this weekend on for me , sensor mapping software first !!




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Gees if n you're usin that ol No7 then you'll get senseless mappin software Very Happy


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I have the solution more No 7 hick up



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Shame there is no bottle shop between Jaycar and home.

I would question your priorities, but you seem to know what you are doing.

Good luck

Obviously my post was a bit late.


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Yes follow me I'm the guy on the posidon boat or whatever it was called that said no don't go up stay down here you will be safe trust me it's safe (if you haven't gathered yet I can't articulate for shit it doesn't interest me in the slightest)
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Both sensors installed in series ready for calbration mapping (just need firmware now) oh and an op amp circuit


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Built the level translation circuit to convert the 12V to 5V for my Halo Magic Box then the circuit from 5V to 12V for the processor to drive the Ljet (it's just a non inverting output out amp circuit X 2 one to divide by 2 and abit one to multiply by 2 and abit they both share the same die so thermally matched to a degree. No protecton circuit yet for inputs but really it is a clean signal.



Ready for mapping software !!!!!
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Will your translation unit be able translate all of the technological stuff into real English?


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http://youtu.be/kXcgpZgtHng


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AJAY WOW , taken all the readings (the MAF sensor is on the back of the chamber in line) I need to for now looking like a simple 0-5V output on the MAF that I have, ideal for the 0-5V resolution on the processors analogue input, with software averaging should get a clean signal else I will create active filter etc but all good so far.
The software dude is date and time stamping files to the ardunio dev systems SD card. Ready for riding calibration results from live mapping once I get my first cut of software !.




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@ainsjac wrote:Will your translation unit be able translate all of the technological stuff into real English?

Hear Hear.

Mozza speaks fluid Mandarin. Maybe he could help.
Might ask Col. He is from Orange. Can't be that different.


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Col does have a second language, he mumbles in coherently when he is drunk but cant even understand the language when sober


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Don't pick on poor Col...he can't even stick up his rude finger at you.


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When I was younger and played a lot of pool, people commented that I played better drunk, my mate reckons it's because I learn't to play for all those years drunk
Have been looking at the L-JET FI board, thinking about tracking the schematic out off the board.



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Reverse engineer the FI board!! affraid Someone if VERY dedicated to this project.

P.S. No Babel Fish needed for Halo-speak in this neck of the woods.


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simplfied version of the internals here

Maybe you can ask the website owner to post the full diagram Wink


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Wow missed that little buety TC thanks, yes Robmack mmm
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Not a problem.... I thought that it would have been a well documented circuit as it was used on various engines, not that all the features were used by all mind.


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Yes very popular but also very secretive.
I just purchased the next part of the puzzle, tipping closed loop response feeding back into the new processor that feeds the L-Jet I am building. Then I can have a closed loop LE Jetronic tuned for performance able to modify it's output on the fly.
It can be used as a stand alone tester with data logger built in with a LED display as well (very cool really).



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Excuse me but does anyone know what they are saying?....I thought that all electronics lived in a box in the form of smoke and when the smoke escapes it does not work anymore....


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Chassis number0019026
Vehicle code0503
SeriesK589
ModelK 100 RS 83 (0502 ( 0503 )
Body typeK 100 RS 83 (0502
Catalog modelECE
Production date1984 / 07
Engine0513)




    

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Hey Charlie hows this for an idea, great documentation on the site that sells the Wide Band O2 sensor and controller I just purchased on Ebay (god I love this guff I'm getting my geeky engineering jollys off), we could send around the traps for the members to use. Have a machine shop at work to create etc.



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nice find halo ....could be a winner idea ..


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Got a great engineering joke (I think so at least)
A doctor an engineer and a priest where playing golf and were held up by the golfers in front of them.
The doctors says to the golf caddy "whats the hold up", to which the caddy replies " thats the blind fire fighters, they play once a month, they saved the golf club from burning down last year however they were blinded by the fire. Once a month out of respect we allow them to play a round of golf for free".
The doctor replies " Oh my, what an act of courage, I shall study their cases and see if there has been any advances made in medical science that may give them a better quality of life"
The priest replies " Oh my dear lord what a tragic act, I shall pray to the lord for their sight to be restored"
The golf caddy commends the men on there comments then turns to the engineer and says "what about you"
The engineer has a think to himself then says " I'm confused, why don't they play golf at night ? "

Found the solution to the leaky bottle Rossco, happy 160th Mr JD



Fantastic info on the O2 systems web site, the sensor is required to be in, not too & and too cold, very different to narrow band sensors , can't handle the heat as much as well but can't have back pressure if too aft as readings will be distorted mmm position position

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at lasht ...hic.... now wee can fooocus on tha task a....hic .....head.. good ol' jack
top effort Halo.


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I have fitted the K1100 throttle bodies and decided to keep the TPS sensor off the K1100 TB's. All I did was to modify the circuit to switch a contact to look like the WOT closed position on the old K100 switch set. In my mind this is a easier change as purely electronic rather than a mechanical mod like others have done.
(Just made it out of a non inverting comparitor with a transistor on the output, that switches at a predetermined voltage from the TPS substrate potentiometer at the eqiv WOT position of the old senser , will tune and add hysteresis next ).

Soda blasted the K1100 TB's (but not a real Halo effort as just for the K100 86 hack)

Found that I had to increase the throw for the Cold start linkage as didn't reach the sensor in the off position.










Great MAP pickup point on the TB's for the K 1100, I am going to create my own EFI for this bike
and want to use this port for a MAP sensor as well as the MAF sensor



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you might have to do some modification of the accelerator cable and retainer bracket halo ...just a heads up


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Just reviving this to send Halo a proverbial kick in the pants!

Cmon mate, I want one of these magic boxes Wink


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indeed Floyd

just as eager to find out what halo has been playing with

cheers


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Ditchwick. V40 restore , atc200e honda trike restore finished, ht3813 honda lawn tractor restore finished and now on to this by the looks of things asap for Floyd
I know rosskko I have to get back to the 84rs but this will be fun


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did you finish this Frankenstein AFM?


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