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1Back to top Go down   Access to the forum resources Empty Access to the forum resources Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:50 pm

Crazy Frog

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Early this week, I decided to change the rules of the forum and bumped the minimum post requirement to access the "For members only forum" and "download page" to a minimum of 10 posts.
Why?
I do have a problem with a lot of new users registering to the forum only to get access to the download page. These people usually don't post anything valuable to the community and as soon as they get access to the resources , they are gone forever.

People have worked very hard to collect all the documentation on the download page, and it is only fair to share them with people actively participating to the forum.

In the past, I have made exceptions for few people having a real problem and needing access to the resource. I will continue to do that on a case by case basis.

CF


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Sounds reasonable to me.

Even without access to the restricted pages, new members still have access to the legendary generosity of advice and help from the members of the forum.

Bill


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1985 K100RT  VIN 0028991  My original Very Happy ROB the Red Old Bike   (Historic rego)
1985 K100RT  VIN 0029036  BOB the Blue Old Bike  (Historic rego)
1990 K100LT  VIN 0190452  Work in progress
1984 K100RT  VIN 0023022  Work needing lots of progress

1986 K100RT  VIN 0090542  Work needing lots and lots of progress
1993 K1100LT  VIN 0183046  Work in progress
1993 K75S  VIN 0213045  Tom the Triple (now on Historic rego too.)
    

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Support both posts.


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I agree, no access to freeloaders.
Oh hang on, that's me at present.


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You'll be right RT... so long as we Novacastrians can camp at your place on our way south next February 🤡


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1996 K1100RS   VIN  0451808
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Whats on in February?


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1985 K100RT  VIN 0028991  My original Very Happy ROB the Red Old Bike   (Historic rego)
1985 K100RT  VIN 0029036  BOB the Blue Old Bike  (Historic rego)
1990 K100LT  VIN 0190452  Work in progress
1984 K100RT  VIN 0023022  Work needing lots of progress

1986 K100RT  VIN 0090542  Work needing lots and lots of progress
1993 K1100LT  VIN 0183046  Work in progress
1993 K75S  VIN 0213045  Tom the Triple (now on Historic rego too.)
    

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I presumed sunny another Snowy run Bill.... will you be up for that?


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1996 K1100RS   VIN  0451808
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Rick G

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Crazy Frog wrote:Early this week, I decided to change the rules of the forum and bumped the minimum post requirement to access the "For members only forum" and "download page" to a minimum of 10 posts.
Why?
I do have a problem with a lot of new users registering to the forum only to get access to the download page. These people usually don't post anything valuable to the community and as soon as they get access to the resources , they are gone forever.

People have worked very hard to collect all the documentation on the download page, and it is only fair to share them with people actively participating to the forum.

In the past, I have made exceptions for few people having a real problem and needing access to the resource. I will continue to do that on a case by case basis.

CF
Holy crap talk about a hijack

Yes Bert I agree with that, one of the other forums I go on vet every post up till 20 and another one to 10 and you dont even see the post till the mods have checked it out.


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Kaptain Holister wrote:I presumed sunny another Snowy run Bill.... will you be up for that?
Must admit to being a bit tongue-in-cheek on that post.  Wink

Definitely on the cards, though the option of March is up there too. Depends on when suits people.

Bill


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1985 K100RT  VIN 0028991  My original Very Happy ROB the Red Old Bike   (Historic rego)
1985 K100RT  VIN 0029036  BOB the Blue Old Bike  (Historic rego)
1990 K100LT  VIN 0190452  Work in progress
1984 K100RT  VIN 0023022  Work needing lots of progress

1986 K100RT  VIN 0090542  Work needing lots and lots of progress
1993 K1100LT  VIN 0183046  Work in progress
1993 K75S  VIN 0213045  Tom the Triple (now on Historic rego too.)
    

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Maybe some new K100 owners are still learning about their bike and while they are working to get up to speed by using the resources, they might not feel comfortable yet participating in the forum.

I happen to fit in this category at the current time.

Mike

    

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Mike feel free to join in the banter regardless , it will help in the process of forming friendships . We might be Krazy , but we don't bite .
Cheers Ed.


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Thanks Ed

    

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Crazy Frog

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mataide wrote:Maybe some new K100 owners are still learning about their bike and while they are working to get up to speed by using the resources, they might not feel comfortable yet participating in the forum.
Mike
The definition of a forum is "a medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged".
The K100-forum has a highly recognized reputation when it comes to members helping others in the most friendly way.
This is not a download site where you get the resource and continue to live on your own. WE EXCHANGE and occasionally become friends !
Over the last 8 years, too many people registered, downloaded the resource and we never heard of them after (or sometimes finding the download on other medias without a credit to the writer.)
Very few posts or questions had been unanswered, and if you have a problem to resolve, the whole community is willing to help you and at the same time help other people with the same problem.
Just ask a question (nothing is stupid as we all have to build our knowledge from scratch) and you may be rewarded with sound advises and maybe life long friendship with other riders.

As a side note we are mourning one of our VIP member. It was hard to type this reply as Rosskko's help and humor will be greatly missed on the forum. He was one of the best ambassador of our friendly corner of the web.
He will stay forever our "cyberspace" friend.
CF


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I am 100% for a raised minimum level of posts in order to belly up and 'feast at the table' as it were. In fact, non-members ('guests') can still pop in for a sticky* and never even have to sign up to avail themselves of the advice, humour and knowledge passed about freely. I see the Admin's change of policy as a necessary step which will hopefully encourage those who are truly interested in our beloved K bikes to join us and share their knowledge. It's a collective; we learn from newbies, too.




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CF thanks for your clarification. It did not occur to me that people would take advantage of the site like that. Where I'm from that conduct would be considered disrespectful and poor manners.

I joined the group because it seemed like a good group to be a part of.

Lastly, I would like to offer my condolences to the group for the loss if one of its own.

Mike

    

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Crazy Frog

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mataide wrote:CF thanks for your clarification. It did not occur to me that people would take advantage of the site like that. Where I'm from that conduct would be considered disrespectful and poor manners.

I joined the group because it seemed like a good group to be a part of.

Lastly, I would like to offer my condolences to the group for the loss of one of its own.

Mike

Thanks Mike.

I believe that you will enjoy being part of this group and you may become a contributor sharing with future K owners his experience as a "newbie"

Cheers,

CF


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17Back to top Go down   Access to the forum resources Empty Fair Call Tue Jun 07, 2016 5:28 am

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Yeah Fair Call Crazy Frog.  Hoping I can be a little better than that.

    

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Hi
I just joined and have read this thread with interest. I am a member of another online community - Early911S Registry - where there is a lot of debate over this issue. 
We have a lot of people who sell parts and literature, but never contribute to the discussion. 
As a newbie, I look forward to contributing, and I also look forward to sharing whatever I can. And I don't think the 10-post rule is onerous at all. 
Cheers!

    

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Crazy Frog

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StephenAcworth wrote:Hi
I just joined and have read this thread with interest. I am a member of another online community - Early911S Registry - where there is a lot of debate over this issue. 
We have a lot of people who sell parts and literature, but never contribute to the discussion. 
As a newbie, I look forward to contributing, and I also look forward to sharing whatever I can. And I don't think the 10-post rule is onerous at all. 
Cheers!
Thanks Stephen,
Forcing people to post is also another way to "brake the ice". A couple of simple words like a small introduction where other members reply and welcome you can be an incentive for people to start feeling of being part of the group.

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I agree... and I have gained so much from the other online communities I am a member of... some of the guys there have such a wealth of knowledge and expertise and are always willing to help out others... it is a great experience and I hope to participate here as much as I can, given my very limited exposure to K100s... and I look forward to learn a lot too!!!

    

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It really doesn't matter to us if someone has "very limited exposure to K100s", as it's not always about the bike. No-one buys a motorcycle and instantly knows everything about it (although we do wonder about Inge sometimes...).

Hell, we'll talk to anyone about anything.

So post away to your hearts content and join in the conversations if you want!


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I came across one guy here a little while ago who poster in the new members and I was 1st reply then I saw a post from him saying fairly abruptly that what the hell do I have to do to get to the downloads section. I said that 10 posts were needed before certain priviledges were available upon which he put up 9 blank posts and then probably tried but without the password he was not able to get in and I haven't seen him since. Made for a good laugh.


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Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health.
And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived."   Dalai Lama


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I saw something similar on another forum where someone turned up,  put up stuff for sale asking top dollar which did not sell, had a whinge and promptly departed. It certainly raised comment along the same lines as discussed here.


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So, posting here not JUST to get my post count up, but ... there's a download section?? :-)

Something to look forward. I don't have a K yet (soon!!!) so hasn't affected me (unless there's a section which tells you how to get the best deal on one of these beauties?). Happy to have a slow learning curve anyway -- too much information would probably scare me off.

But yeah, what, three posts now?

    

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Hi glennji, keep an eye on this thread and if you can spare the time to drive down to Robertson to meet some of us I'm sure you'll be made most welcome and you'll leave completely convinced that getting a bike (doesn't really matter what type) and joining us is a good move.

Cheers


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Gaz80 wrote:Hi glennji, keep an eye on this thread and if you can spare the time to drive down to Robertson to meet some of us I'm sure you'll be made most welcome and you'll leave completely convinced that getting a bike (doesn't really matter what type) and joining us is a good move.

Cheers
Sounds good to me!!

I've been watching that one -- I didn't know RossKKo, but I'd be honoured to join the ride. There's a 40th that weekend so it might have to cut it short -- I'll tell my wife I need to test the swag overnight, if I think I can get away with it. (She wouldn't be on this forum, would she?)

We're hoping to move out of the city *some day* -- all depends on cutting the ties, being able to work from home -- and have started poking around the Southern Highlands to find which areas we might like. Had lunch in Robbo (Robo?) last weekend, and were going to check out the "swanky" areas (Exeter, Sutton Forest, anywhere else?) this weekend, but now I've got a bike to inspect and a garage to clean out. :-)



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Hi,

Buying or just bought a K series, then you could have a look at:

http://www.verrill.com/moto/kbikebuyingguide.shtml

Mike

    

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mike d wrote:Hi,

Buying or just bought a K series, then you could have a look at:

http://www.verrill.com/moto/kbikebuyingguide.shtml

Mike
That's really useful: thanks for posting...

    

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As a newcomer I certainly have no complaints about the "ten post" rule. I will admit though I have already answered many of my questions by growing through the forum postings.

I have in the past contributed to other special interest forums and subsequently found my how to guides distributed far and wide, even translated into Russian Smile

Looking forward to being part of this community.


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Reading this page is very refreshing. After having an issue with a member on another K site because i was indignant enough to ask a simple question I'm looking forward to participating here.

  Cheers
  Andrew

  P.S. I didn't even know there was a hidden section Laughing

    

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Andrew,  

Would you care to name the other site?  Forewarned is forearmed.  

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TacKler wrote:Andrew,  

Would you care to name the other site?  Forewarned is forearmed.  

Dave.
 Hi Dave,
  the other site is absolutely terrific so there's no reason to name it or anything like that. They're all great people there and very helpful just like this place. Just a little misunderstanding with one member who spends too much time on there and here instead of riding judging by his post count Laughing But it's all good and we'll both get over it. 
  We're all here to help each other out and if no questions were asked well.....there would be nothing to talk about I guess Laughing Laughing...and I've got lots of questions Access to the forum resources 652573

  Cheers
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No worries.  Must be the weather then.


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Andrew2 wrote:
TacKler wrote:Andrew,  

Would you care to name the other site?  Forewarned is forearmed.  

Dave.
 Hi Dave,
  the other site is absolutely terrific so there's no reason to name it or anything like that. They're all great people there and very helpful just like this place. Just a little misunderstanding with one member who spends too much time on there and here instead of riding judging by his post count Laughing But it's all good and we'll both get over it. 
  We're all here to help each other out and if no questions were asked well.....there would be nothing to talk about I guess Laughing Laughing...and I've got lots of questions Access to the forum resources 652573

  Cheers
  Andrew
great attitude  Andrew

cheers


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I just got used to how to post at all , downloading  now theres a challenge ,nice to know that information can be saved for later if need be better get some help with that ,now where did that 10 y old kid go with his eye pad, cant think why everyone wants one of those things if you have two eyes better to use em both id say
Happy to have an opportunity to contribute & share the K virus 
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RicK G wrote:I came across one guy here a little while ago who poster in the new members and I was 1st reply then I saw a post from him saying fairly abruptly that what the hell do I have to do to get to the downloads section. I said that 10 posts were needed before certain priviledges were available upon which he put up 9 blank posts and then probably tried but without the password he was not able to get in and I haven't seen him since. Made for a good laugh.

Rick, Guys,
I might have caused that.
Told a fellow that bought a turbo k100 about this site, and it's great resources.
That one needed to post enough to be able to gain access to other info.
Turns out that it was a kid, who doesn't ride, farmed out making that thing run, to others, in a shop in Louisville, Kentucky, USA....while acting like he needed our assistance as a riding forum member.
Axxxxle

Embarrassed me.
 
I used to jump out airplanes when in my country's service.

Everybody took care of each other then, when going out the C130's doors or walking/shuffling, because the ruck was so heavy, off of the ramp because if it wasn't me watching out for your ass, then it would be you watching out for my welfare.

The same mindset is found in this forum.

Grateful for it.

Apologize if I let a jerk in the door. Smile



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JimK wrote:
Rick, Guys,
I might have caused that.
Don't worry about it and don't be embarrassed.
You will always find people abusing of your kindness and desire to help.
This will not change the attitude of the forum's members toward new K owners or people in need of support.
We are here to help each others.


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I wouldn't lose any sleep over that Jim.
Urrmmm jump out of a perfectly good airplane, I don't suppose you have to be a bit crazy but it certainly would help. Laughing


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And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived."   Dalai Lama


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Crazy Frog wrote:
JimK wrote:
Rick, Guys,
I might have caused that.
Don't worry about it and don't be embarrassed.
You will always find people abusing of your kindness and desire to help.
This will not change the attitude of the forum's members toward new K owners or people in need of support.
We are here to help each others.
Nicely said.
Thanks.
JimK


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