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1Back to top Go down   Dash switch current rating Empty Dash switch current rating Sun Jun 14, 2020 4:57 am

Gaz

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Has anybody out there in this great forum ever found info on the current rating of our K bike dash switches?

I'm confident that Duck is the man to help me with this info - are you out there mate? ...... or anyone else.

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2Back to top Go down   Dash switch current rating Empty Re: Dash switch current rating Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:42 am

Dai

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Having dismantled a few and comparing them to the contact area of known Japanese switches, you're looking at a minimum of ten amps for the copper. What I don't know is if the heat of putting ten amps through them will affect the plastic. I'd stick to 5 amps (60 watts) as I'm reasonably confident that would be okay.

OTOH there's always a relay Very Happy


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3Back to top Go down   Dash switch current rating Empty switch Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:09 am

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I've used a switch from the car wreckers (I think it was from a Mitsubishi) for a hazard switch. It works, but I've never measured the current.

    

4Back to top Go down   Dash switch current rating Empty Re: Dash switch current rating Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:49 pm

Gaz

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Thanks guys.

Dai, I'm normally a relay guy as well but I'm fiddling with my 650 and may want to switch some LEDs directly with a load of only 20 watts so much simpler to just use a switch. Like you I have disassembled and resurrected many of our K bike rocker switches and agree with your thoughts on their contact size/potential rating but just thought I'd look for some support of my thoughts from the forum.

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5Back to top Go down   Dash switch current rating Empty Re: Dash switch current rating Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:31 pm

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Wattage divided by voltage gives you amperage. So 20 divided by 12 equals 1.66666 Amps which is stuff all.
Regards Martin.


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6Back to top Go down   Dash switch current rating Empty Re: Dash switch current rating Mon Jun 15, 2020 6:19 am

92KK 84WW Olaf

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On my K...

Hazard has a relay.
ABS has a relay.
Heated grips have relay.
Screen has relay ??

Design ratings may not be high.


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1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
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7Back to top Go down   Dash switch current rating Empty Re: Dash switch current rating Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:38 am

Dai

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Screen has two relays: up and down. All those you've quoted, Olaf, aren't particularly high-current users. Off the top of my head:

Heated grips: 4 - 5 amps
Screen: 7 amps
ABS: deity only knows but it's a 15amp fuse, so probably somewhere in the region of ten amps
Hazard: just under 8 amps. Normally the K doesn't have a relay for this - it's just 'crossed wires'.

Yer standard headlight on full beam is 5 amps.

The biggest problem at those currents are contacts that are dirty or covered with copper oxide until it all just stops working. However, (with the exception of the grips) in their favour they are all intermittant loads with a cooldown period between loading, so overheating is not normally a problem. Having said all that, the inrush/surge current as the screen motor starts up definately needs a relay. Can't speak for the ABS (don't have it) but I'd guess that has an inrush problem too as the motors start up.


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1987 K100RT
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2020 Royal Enfield Bullet 500
    

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