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keithnh

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One of the reasons I scooped my 85 k100 was the paint color intrigued me ... I had never seen green on a a beamer before and I liked the hunter green shade. My dads R60 was black almost tho I think really dark blue. My 84 R65 a kind of "electric" blue. The K100 is hunter green BMW paint code 606 per under the seat label. 3 of the 4 signals were gone and the back fiberglass broken. Have already gotten replacements for all except small frame side covers. Back section is wrong color tho and has a different "mini-sissy-bar +passenger backrest arrangement" vs a black flatter cargo bar setup. The BMW emblem is faded .. I will need to replace it. Will be a pretty bike even with scratched but unbroken front fiberglass. Im not sure it even runs as I dont have a key yet but has only 59000 miles on and looks very straight. Hopefully it runs .. when I get key I will take it to my Harley bud's shop and change out filters, engine oil and check coolant and other oil levels. Have already scoped out bags and bag mounts and a lowering shock as it is a bit high for my comfort .. has a progressive shock on it which is not factory. I will have to make sure drivetrain is intact before I go hog-wild with it Smile Was remembering riding on the back of my dad's guzzi 750(after the r60) thinking this might be a cut above that .. hoping anyway.

Wondering if anyone knows how to get ahold of the correct factory paint? 1985 K100 code 606 in particular??

    

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There are a lot of paint shops around that will have the code or can colour match. I have had it done a few times and it's its been very good.
Also you can find lots of info on paint here http://www.bmbikes.co.uk/colourschemes.htm


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As far as color codes, I have not had a lot of success finding a local paint supplier who has them for BMW motorcycles.  Cars, yes, but not the bikes.  It seems that bikes in general, and beemers in particular fly under the radar of the big paint companies.

Having said that, you might have some luck at a BASF paint dealer, as BMW allegedly used BASF's Glasurit system in the factory. 

If you can take a part to a paint supplier, most of them can get a fairly good match without having the book of the codes. 

There is a place here in the U.S. where I've gotten paint, and they claim to have all the codes and can match the tri-coat systems that many K bikes were painted with.

https://cyclecolor.com/

Their web site is a bit of a mashup, but they have gotten me good color matches for Mystic Red and Dakar Yellow touchup paint.  They also have the tri-coat for painting body parts.


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1991 K100RS
1988 K100RS SE

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1994 BMW K75S
1992 BMW K100RS
1982 Honda FT500
1979 Honda XR185
1977 Honda XL125
1974 Honda XL125
1972 OSSA Pioneer 250
1968 Kawasaki 175
    

keithnh

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I believe that tank is steel and all other "color" on the bike fiberglass. The tank is really not boogered too bad. I think paint procedures on fiber glass are a little less critical. The local auto parts place has a color matching tool, I may have them match and make me a rattle-can or 2 of single stage color and clear, see what that does. If right I will have a code for paint from them for a better job. Wont mess with steel tank, just clean and polish ... if I like it I can strip and repaint better after testing and unbugging the bike.

I am restoring a 30th anniversary Harley Sportster and did the color with powdercoat which turned out beautifully with a 1957 color shade. I dont know how powder does on fiberglass tho.

    

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@keithnh wrote:I believe that tank is steel and all other "color" on the bike fiberglass.
If the tank is an OEM Brick tank, it's aluminum.


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Finding the correct paint for touch-up / repaint Usa-lo10
    

92KK 84WW Olaf

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Finding the correct paint for touch-up / repaint 88426512
Colour code 606 Alaska Blue


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011171 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 36,188  miles
    

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I'm with Olaf, the only colour scheme I know of in 606 is a scheme not a code, a paint code is different to a label stuck to the rear cowl on a K100. That label is for the scheme for the whole bike. Appears as Alaska Blue in BMW Paint Schemes. Was that Label stuck to the seat or the Cowl?


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Sticker on the painted surface of the duck tail under the seat has a sticker with 606 on it. Can't get you a photo as the bike is in Spain.


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011171 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 36,188  miles
    

keithnh

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Well drove bike today ... signals inop and no mirrors. Feels very nice and the pleasant straight as an arrow feel going down the road that puts smile on my face every time, same as my r65. Feels like a tiger to me tho, far more power than R65 ... some grittiness near 100mph but still straight as arrow and much more throttle to go. Not sure where "grittiness" coming from? Havent fully read the manual not even sure how many gears, wasnt counting really just enjoying the feel again. I know was hard to find top gear on r65, I think I did get it on k100 today .. was same trouble as r65. Maybe same transmission, apparently I read now both 5-speeds. I like the feel of her so she's a keeper, will try fixing her myself when/if she breaks. She was apparently repainted the green from "Ice blue something" per VIN and dealer info, I love the green so that will be her color hereafter. Need the correct mirrors to get a sticker and signals fixed. Will just ride her as a rat till season over ... seat and paint this winter.

    

Point-Seven-five

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Good to hear your bike is running well. 

Regarding the grittiness, do a complete tune up including valves and throttle body balance.  That can do a lot for the smoothness of the engine.  I've found that wheel balance can add a bit of vibration as well.

Yes, BMW transmissions can be a little hard to shift.  I would suggest pulling the transmission and lubing the clutch splines and mixing a tablespoon of molybdenum disulfide powder in the transmission oil when you change it.  After a hundred miles or so, the molybdenum will coat the surfaces in the transmission and make the shifting a lot easier.  Nascar teams use it in their transmissions, and they have found it lowers the operating temperature of the transmission significantly.


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Present:
1994 K75RT
1991 K100RS
1988 K100RS SE

Past:
1994 BMW K75S
1992 BMW K100RS
1982 Honda FT500
1979 Honda XR185
1977 Honda XL125
1974 Honda XL125
1972 OSSA Pioneer 250
1968 Kawasaki 175
    

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Maybe same transmission,


No, totally different.


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keithnh

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Apparently there is a difference between models in mirror setup. It appears some have mirrors built into front turn signal "blisters" while some such as mine have smaller signal blisters and stick mirrors. Was looking at max bmw parts fiche and it showed the stick mirrors and attachment parts as 1-4 on a diagram illustration but did not show the item numbers in the PN and nomenclature box below. Figured I would get the correct BMW stick mirrors but it is possible they are no longer available? Not sure why they show in one place and not the other. Max closed today. I have sticks on my R65 that work fine.

Bike still at shop ... will drive home today to get her sticker ready in my basement shop. Have yet to change oils, was thinking of coolant too. Will add molyebdenum sulfide .. assuming that is similar to using moly enhanced oils for flat tappet cams in cars so cam wear is minimized. Dont think coolant it was low as there was some in overflow tank. I put up to halfway between min and max and poured some in the fill cap to find where it was, was near top already, I may have over-filled it as after driving I was smelling anti-freeze slightly but not seeing it. ?? Mightve spilled a drop or 2 but didnt think so.

    

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@keithnh wrote: Will add molyebdenum sulfide .. assuming that is similar to using moly enhanced oils for flat tappet cams in cars so cam wear is minimized. 
There is anecdotal evidence that moly added to crankcase oil will cause the starter sprag clutch to slip. Mix with gearbox oil/rear drive oil but don't overdo it.
@keithnh wrote:Apparently there is a difference between models in the mirror setup. . . .Some such as mine have smaller signal blisters.
You have entered in your profile that you have an '85 K100 and you've described it as having a fairing but we don't know whether it is an RS model, an RT model or a hybrid creation including aftermarket parts. The RS and RT have built-in signals on the mirror housings. The naked K100 has signals on stalks attached to the headlight cowl and mirrors on stalks. The mirror stalks vary in length and can be found along with their prices in the K100 section of Max's fiche. The integrated signal/mirror housing can be found in the K100RT or K100RS sections of the fiche but usually only obtained second hand. 

If you haven't checked the last seven digits of your moto's serial number in the VIN checker at realoem , now's the time to do it. Scroll down to choose Motorcycle/Classic then enter the number. Once you've determined what you own, click on the Profile tab in the head of this page. In the next screen that appears, click the Signature tab then enter your moto's model and year. That information will thereafter appear at the bottom of all your posts to let readers know what you might be riding, restoring, or repairing without their having to backtrack to find out.


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1995 K75 77,000 miles
Finding the correct paint for touch-up / repaint Usa-lo10
    

keithnh

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Finding the correct paint for touch-up / repaint Img_0410
There it is Smile got lucky will have to work on this abit.

    

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Nice color, looks like British Racing Green.  Gold pinstriping would look really elegant on it.


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1994 K75RT
1991 K100RS
1988 K100RS SE

Past:
1994 BMW K75S
1992 BMW K100RS
1982 Honda FT500
1979 Honda XR185
1977 Honda XL125
1974 Honda XL125
1972 OSSA Pioneer 250
1968 Kawasaki 175
    

keithnh

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I like simplicity, she will look good when I have every piece and all that color. May not be a BMW color so I guess she will be a rat Smile  but my rat.  I took the simple route on Sportster and powdered my sky blue color, everyone at shop said "You'll ruin it" but they drool over it now, at least the pieces as its still in a basket. Think they're even trying to swipe it .. was trying to smooth it out to be my R65's American big step-brother ... ported bathtub 1100 heads over 1200cc, hand balanced 2pc wheelset will possibly add Balance Masters to, full roller, big cams, dual rotor 41mm forks in 39mm trees, Zippers trap door and several bearing up grades. Now for peanuts just found R65's real big brother in K100. Guess it will be interesting to see how the bikes compare, and if I improved the sport to anything near the beamers. K100 feels to me like closest thing to exactly what I want in a bike, smooth strong and fun to drive .. fast enough to scare me. Didnt find heated grips like my R65 tho.

    

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@keithnh wrote:. . . just found R65's real big brother in K100.
More like its mutant cousin. Laughing


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Finding the correct paint for touch-up / repaint Usa-lo10
    

92KK 84WW Olaf

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@Point-Seven-five wrote:Nice color, looks like British Racing Green.  Gold pinstriping would look really elegant on it.
British racing green,[1]  or BRG, is a colour similar to Brunswick green hunter green forest green  or moss green  (RAL 6005 ). It takes its name from the green international motor racing colour  of the United Kingdom . This originated with the 1903 Gordon Bennett Cup , held in Ireland (then still part of the UK), as motor-racing was illegal in England. As a mark of respect, the British cars were painted shamrock green.   Shamrock


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011171 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 36,188  miles
    

keithnh

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Wow thats cool! I dont know how the color got on my bike but I love it and it sure looks to me like it belongs there. Looked up my ancestry and am supposed to be highland Scot on one side mostly German on the other although family name tracked thru Ireland and on to new world in middle ages ... am an ex-marine as well, maybe thats why I like green so much Smile Have a pretty green Western Star 4964 tractor-trailer truck a similar color and a 94 Caddy Eldo.

    

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Picked up my bike yesterday and drove home. The guy, supposedly my friend, who sold it to me told he had taken it out and done figure eights with it burning rubber off the rear tire. I thought he was joking but there were 2 oil puddles under the bike where it had sat for several weeks with no puddles not even a drop. A buddy of his said he did it too. It smoked initially when I drove it home but his girlfriend said it stopped after about 1/2 mile, she was giving me a ride back. Im a bit stunned but looking at it as "it is what it is". What could be losing oil and how much damage has been done. He will never touch bike again. There were 2 6-8 inch wet spots one under front of engine and one about 20 inches back directly under bike. Both engine oil from the smell/ look, feel I believe. I hadnt had it over 4500rpm driving it, one little near 100 whack. Might've lost a friend, maybe one I never really had anyway. Guess I made a mistake telling him it ran like a "tiger" and leaving the key in it at his shop. Bike ran ok going home, just wondering where to start looking for damage.

    

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First off, it's not unusual for these bikes to smoke when they have been sitting on the sidestand for a day or two.  A little oil runs down past the rings and burns when you start up up.  Part of the bike's charm.

These bikes will run at redline all day.  I wouldn't worry about it.  Probably just loosened up the rings and the injectors to make the bike run a little better.  It's called an Italian tuneup.

Oil leaks.  The o-ring at the rear of the engine at the clutch gets hard with age and will leak sooner or later.  It's a fairly common problem and one of the things most owners have to service on a "new" bike. 

Oil at the front of the engine is more of a problem.  It usually means the shaft seal on the oil pump is beginning to leak requiring that the pump be rebuilt.  Again, a fairly common issue with these old machines.  Will be a good winter project.


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Present:
1994 K75RT
1991 K100RS
1988 K100RS SE

Past:
1994 BMW K75S
1992 BMW K100RS
1982 Honda FT500
1979 Honda XR185
1977 Honda XL125
1974 Honda XL125
1972 OSSA Pioneer 250
1968 Kawasaki 175
    

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Dont Panic and don't shoot your mate(well not yet)clean the oil off, brake/clutch cleaner is good.Place clean cardboard underbike and run engine for a while,leave overnight and then look.Sump plug, oil pressure switch, filter housing cover.Looking straight at water/oil pump cover,if there is oil leaking from 2 /3 oclock position then it needs fixing.Doing what your mate did was stupid but shouldn't have caused the leaks.Ks love to REV,so no worries there best of luck Very Happy Very Happy


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