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KiwiK100

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Hi all,
I am fitting oem heated grips to my K1 restoration (yes I know Oxford grips are better, but I want oem) and need to drill and tap the bars to lock the L/H grip in position. As I do not have the right bar end weights yet, my question is this - does the grip tube that has the heating wiring attached to it sit flush with the end of the bars or is it recessed? Want to get this part of the job done while I wait for bar ends to come up for sale. If anyone has any for sale though, could you let me know. Aussie or Kiwi members only please.
Thanks


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Current rides:
2020 R1250RS. Metallic black with all the fruit
2002 K1200RS. Owned from new. Pacific Blue, Ohlins, Speiglers, Fiamms, HID. 186,000km SOLD Crying or Very sad
1991 K1. Schwartz metallic black, 18 month frame off restoration. 74,000km SOLD Crying or Very sad
1987 K100RS Style. Black, Ohlins, Race Tech springs, Braided lines. Fully restored. 53,000 miles. SOLD Crying or Very sad
The family history:
1951 AJS 500 single - my Dads ride
1953 Triumph Terrier - my Mum's ride
1916 Triumph Type H, Battle of the Somme, France WW1 - my Grandads ride
    

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duck

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Flush.


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86 Custom K100 (standard fairing, K75 Belly pan, Ceramic chromed engine covers, paralever)
K75 Frankenbrick (Paralever, K11 front end, hybrid ABS, K1100RS fairing, radial tires)
86 K75C Turbo w/ paralever
94 K1100RS
93 K1100LT (x2)
91 K1
93 K75S (K11 front end)
91 K75S (K1 front end)
14 Yamaha WR250R
98 Taxi Cab K1200RS
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3Back to top Go down   retro fit oem heated grips Empty Re: retro fit oem heated grips Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:40 am

KiwiK100

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Cheers Duck. Love a short and concise answer! Now I'll ask another question. Are the calliper pistons open at one end so requiring them to be fitted into the calliper in a certain direction or sealed both ends so it doesn't matter?
Thanks


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Current rides:
2020 R1250RS. Metallic black with all the fruit
2002 K1200RS. Owned from new. Pacific Blue, Ohlins, Speiglers, Fiamms, HID. 186,000km SOLD Crying or Very sad
1991 K1. Schwartz metallic black, 18 month frame off restoration. 74,000km SOLD Crying or Very sad
1987 K100RS Style. Black, Ohlins, Race Tech springs, Braided lines. Fully restored. 53,000 miles. SOLD Crying or Very sad
The family history:
1951 AJS 500 single - my Dads ride
1953 Triumph Terrier - my Mum's ride
1916 Triumph Type H, Battle of the Somme, France WW1 - my Grandads ride
    

4Back to top Go down   retro fit oem heated grips Empty Re: retro fit oem heated grips Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:46 am

KiwiK100

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I am progressing with the retro fit of oem grips. I have the correct bar end weights and the fitting that lives inside the bars that allows the wiring to pass through. The internal end weight fitting has a pin that requires a slot in the end of the bars to prevent it turning when tightening the end weight screw. Easily done. Problem is the end weight needs to fit up hard against the end of the bars and the heat wiring is still in the way. On original heated grip bars is there a step in the end of the bars that the wiring sits in? On the throttle side it would need to be big enough to accommodate grip twist travel, on the L/H side, not so, just a slot. Am I on the right track? 
I realise that Oxfords would have been easier, but I want the original look for this restoration. 
Thanks as always for the help


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Current rides:
2020 R1250RS. Metallic black with all the fruit
2002 K1200RS. Owned from new. Pacific Blue, Ohlins, Speiglers, Fiamms, HID. 186,000km SOLD Crying or Very sad
1991 K1. Schwartz metallic black, 18 month frame off restoration. 74,000km SOLD Crying or Very sad
1987 K100RS Style. Black, Ohlins, Race Tech springs, Braided lines. Fully restored. 53,000 miles. SOLD Crying or Very sad
The family history:
1951 AJS 500 single - my Dads ride
1953 Triumph Terrier - my Mum's ride
1916 Triumph Type H, Battle of the Somme, France WW1 - my Grandads ride
    

5Back to top Go down   retro fit oem heated grips Empty Re: retro fit oem heated grips Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:54 am

92KK 84WW Olaf

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The original bars for original heated grips have a significant slot in the end.

I know this because when I ordered replacements bars from my K100RT they had the slots but my RT had no heated grips. I didn't bother sending them back as they were in very good condition so I cut them back so they were flush ends. The slot was about 12mm deep and went about half way round the end. Probably means my finished bars were 25mm narrower across the width but that wasn't a trouble.

Bottom line will be get the correct bars for the OEM grips.


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011171 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 37,190 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 42,640 miles.

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

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KiwiK100

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Thanks a heap Olaf, very helpful in deed and as I thought, but nice to have it confirmed. K1 bars and model specific so probably as rare as rocking horse teeth, so will modify what I have.
Thanks again


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Current rides:
2020 R1250RS. Metallic black with all the fruit
2002 K1200RS. Owned from new. Pacific Blue, Ohlins, Speiglers, Fiamms, HID. 186,000km SOLD Crying or Very sad
1991 K1. Schwartz metallic black, 18 month frame off restoration. 74,000km SOLD Crying or Very sad
1987 K100RS Style. Black, Ohlins, Race Tech springs, Braided lines. Fully restored. 53,000 miles. SOLD Crying or Very sad
The family history:
1951 AJS 500 single - my Dads ride
1953 Triumph Terrier - my Mum's ride
1916 Triumph Type H, Battle of the Somme, France WW1 - my Grandads ride
    

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Ringfad

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Hi Richard

I have a brand new set of k1 bars and will take a few pictures so you can see where the holes are.
I also have the other pictures for you and will send later.


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   ;BMW; K100RS Style Black 1987 105K Km     ;BMW; K1 Black 1993 60K Km     ;BMW;  K1100RS Blue 1994       ;BMW; K1 Blue 1990 25K Miles
    

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Ringfad

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I just checked my k1 bars (still in the bag) but not drilled for heated grips  Embarassed


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retro fit oem heated grips Ir-log10

   ;BMW; K100RS Style Black 1987 105K Km     ;BMW; K1 Black 1993 60K Km     ;BMW;  K1100RS Blue 1994       ;BMW; K1 Blue 1990 25K Miles
    

9Back to top Go down   retro fit oem heated grips Empty Re: retro fit oem heated grips Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:57 pm

Gaz

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Hi KiwiK100, this sketch that I made of the cutout on the end of a set of RT bars with heated grips may help you modify your bars to take OEM heated grip wiring.

I modified a set of aftermarket bars to take OEM heated grips by doing this. The drawing is a bit blurry as I had to convert from pdf.

The 23.7mm section on the right hand end is the threaded insert that goes into the bars for the end weight to mount on and uses the small locating slot to prevent the insert turning.

Cheers

retro fit oem heated grips Rt_bar10


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10Back to top Go down   retro fit oem heated grips Empty Re: retro fit oem heated grips Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:51 am

KiwiK100

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@Ringfad wrote:I just checked my k1 bars (still in the bag) but not drilled for heated grips  Embarassed

Well they're no good to you then Simon, living in Ireland. I know it never stops raining and it gets cold too, but I have very fond memories of hitching around your beautiful country in 1980. Maybe an Aussie owner could make better use of them Laughing


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Current rides:
2020 R1250RS. Metallic black with all the fruit
2002 K1200RS. Owned from new. Pacific Blue, Ohlins, Speiglers, Fiamms, HID. 186,000km SOLD Crying or Very sad
1991 K1. Schwartz metallic black, 18 month frame off restoration. 74,000km SOLD Crying or Very sad
1987 K100RS Style. Black, Ohlins, Race Tech springs, Braided lines. Fully restored. 53,000 miles. SOLD Crying or Very sad
The family history:
1951 AJS 500 single - my Dads ride
1953 Triumph Terrier - my Mum's ride
1916 Triumph Type H, Battle of the Somme, France WW1 - my Grandads ride
    

11Back to top Go down   retro fit oem heated grips Empty Re: retro fit oem heated grips Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:53 am

KiwiK100

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@Gaz wrote:Hi KiwiK100, this sketch that I made of the cutout on the end of a set of RT bars with heated grips may help you modify your bars to take OEM heated grip wiring.

I modified a set of aftermarket bars to take OEM heated grips by doing this. The drawing is a bit blurry as I had to convert from pdf.

The 23.7mm section on the right hand end is the threaded insert that goes into the bars for the end weight to mount on and uses the small locating slot to prevent the insert turning.

Cheers

retro fit oem heated grips Rt_bar10

Gaz, thanks heaps mate. I'm all over it now, with the locating pin in the right spot to allow for throttle travel without interfering with the wiring.


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Current rides:
2020 R1250RS. Metallic black with all the fruit
2002 K1200RS. Owned from new. Pacific Blue, Ohlins, Speiglers, Fiamms, HID. 186,000km SOLD Crying or Very sad
1991 K1. Schwartz metallic black, 18 month frame off restoration. 74,000km SOLD Crying or Very sad
1987 K100RS Style. Black, Ohlins, Race Tech springs, Braided lines. Fully restored. 53,000 miles. SOLD Crying or Very sad
The family history:
1951 AJS 500 single - my Dads ride
1953 Triumph Terrier - my Mum's ride
1916 Triumph Type H, Battle of the Somme, France WW1 - my Grandads ride
    

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KiwiK100

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Worked to the wee hours last night and got the heated grips sorted with the bar end weights. Many thanks to all that contributed, especially Gaz with his excellent mud map. Worked a treat cheers Now I'm waiting for the new MC rubber boot before bleeding the brakes again Evil or Very Mad Hopefully I can push the brake fluid back up from the ABS pump into the MC and purge the air that way. Otherwise I've got to take all the tupperware off and that doesn't impress me at all.


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Current rides:
2020 R1250RS. Metallic black with all the fruit
2002 K1200RS. Owned from new. Pacific Blue, Ohlins, Speiglers, Fiamms, HID. 186,000km SOLD Crying or Very sad
1991 K1. Schwartz metallic black, 18 month frame off restoration. 74,000km SOLD Crying or Very sad
1987 K100RS Style. Black, Ohlins, Race Tech springs, Braided lines. Fully restored. 53,000 miles. SOLD Crying or Very sad
The family history:
1951 AJS 500 single - my Dads ride
1953 Triumph Terrier - my Mum's ride
1916 Triumph Type H, Battle of the Somme, France WW1 - my Grandads ride
    

13Back to top Go down   retro fit oem heated grips Empty Re: retro fit oem heated grips Wed Oct 25, 2017 5:58 am

KiwiK100

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@duck wrote:Flush.
Negative


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Current rides:
2020 R1250RS. Metallic black with all the fruit
2002 K1200RS. Owned from new. Pacific Blue, Ohlins, Speiglers, Fiamms, HID. 186,000km SOLD Crying or Very sad
1991 K1. Schwartz metallic black, 18 month frame off restoration. 74,000km SOLD Crying or Very sad
1987 K100RS Style. Black, Ohlins, Race Tech springs, Braided lines. Fully restored. 53,000 miles. SOLD Crying or Very sad
The family history:
1951 AJS 500 single - my Dads ride
1953 Triumph Terrier - my Mum's ride
1916 Triumph Type H, Battle of the Somme, France WW1 - my Grandads ride
    

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