BMW K bikes (Bricks)

You are not connected. Please login or register

View previous topic View next topic Go down  Message [Page 1 of 1]


1Back to top Go down   side stands Empty side stands Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:30 am

Stan

Stan
Life time member
Life time member
Could someone out there help me with information for my 87 RT. The side stand has 2 springs attached to it on a pivot point each. However the springs are then attached together onto one pivot on the bike. I looked at my 83 basic and the stand is different but still has two pivot points, but connects to triangular plate...2 holes for the 2 springs and the third hooks onto the bike.
All this came about as there a fair deal of play in the stand, so I had a new bush made where the stands bolts onto the bike.Should there be a similar set for the 87 bike that exists on the 83?


__________________________________________________
1983 K100 basic vin 0003960 colour red  GONE
1987 K100RT vin 0094685 colour, orange peel, sorry, pearl..GONE
F800R black
    

2Back to top Go down   side stands Empty Re: side stands Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:44 am

92KK 84WW Olaf

avatar
Life time member
Life time member
I will hazard a guess as I have both versions.

The 92LT came with a clutch lever release for the side stand, pull in the clutch lever and the side stand is retracted by it. Some people disable this but I found it a good feature.

The 84RT when I took it out for a test ride nearly killed me. When I went into a petrol station to haul it up on the main stand for a look underneath the side stand would not stay down. The plate the two springs attached to was a boomerang/triangular shape and there was a raised pin that this would come in contact with as you lowered the side stand  to use the springs to force the side stand into the raised position. You had to push the stand out to its limit and then lean the bike onto it while keeping it down with your left foot. A recipe for disaster. Of course the idea was then when you lifted the bike off the side stand it automatically retracted. So I couldn't get off the K and had to ride it back to the vendor's house and get him to get it down.

The deal was done on the basis that he would cut the pin back to below the plate the springs were mounted on so it would not retract. So a frantic search for a hacksaw and the end result was successful.


__________________________________________________
1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011171 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 37,190 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 42,640 miles.

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

3Back to top Go down   side stands Empty Re: side stands Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:34 am

Avenger GT

Avenger GT
Life time member
Life time member
I think you are missing the plate off the 87 RT. The three bikes in my garage at the moment, an 86 RT, 87 LT, and 93 K75RT all have plates between the springs and the frame. The 86 has the "spring up" side stand and a different plate, the other two have the clutch retract mechanism.

    

4Back to top Go down   side stands Empty Re: side stands Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:46 am

Inge K.

Inge K.
VIP
VIP
As also mentioned earlier in this thread, the plate on the self retracting
system have a triangular shape ....the one used on clutch aided retracting
system is more shaped like a boomerang.



Last edited by Inge K. on Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:01 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Fading memory)


__________________________________________________
Inge K.
K100RS -86. (first owner), K1100LTSE -94.
    

5Back to top Go down   side stands Empty Re: side stands Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:48 am

92KK 84WW Olaf

avatar
Life time member
Life time member
Another thing too, a very interesting on e.

I got a new rear tyre fitted at the Honda dealership in Cork, happily located next door to one that sells motorrad iators. They do an excellent tyre fitting service at good prices.

When they brought the bike back out I was talking to the guy who knew a fair bit about the Ks, smoking etc. But, he told me there was a right hand side stand available for them. It seems this was on some police models. He is around long enough to know them. So, has anyone come across this before? I know it was common on some smaller post office bikes to have one on the right hand side but I have never heard of it on the K.


__________________________________________________
1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011171 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 37,190 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 42,640 miles.

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

6Back to top Go down   side stands Empty Re: side stands Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:49 am

92KK 84WW Olaf

avatar
Life time member
Life time member
@Avenger GT wrote:I think you are missing the plate off the 87 RT. The three bikes in my garage at the moment, an 86 RT, 87 LT, and 93 K75RT all have plates between the springs and the frame. The 86 has the "spring up" side stand and a different plate, the other two have the clutch retract mechanism.

Any signs yet of coming back into the fold?


__________________________________________________
1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011171 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 37,190 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 42,640 miles.

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

7Back to top Go down   side stands Empty Re: side stands Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:49 pm

Stan

Stan
Life time member
Life time member
Thank you for the reponses. When I bought the 83 I disabled the spring system that retracted the side stand as soon as weight is lifted from the side stand. My 87 came to me without the clutch release set up and now, obviously, without the boomerang plate. Now where do I find someone in Australia who knows about boomerangs?


__________________________________________________
1983 K100 basic vin 0003960 colour red  GONE
1987 K100RT vin 0094685 colour, orange peel, sorry, pearl..GONE
F800R black
    

8Back to top Go down   side stands Empty Re: side stands Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:03 pm

92KK 84WW Olaf

avatar
Life time member
Life time member
ainsjac wrote:Thank you for the reponses. When I bought the 83 I disabled the spring system that retracted the side stand as soon as weight is lifted from the side stand. My 87 came to me without the clutch release set up and now, obviously, without the boomerang plate. Now where do I find someone in Australia who knows about boomerangs?

If you throw out a question it will come back at you with an answer.

I suspect that someone will have that plate lying around somewhere or it could easily be made or posted real cheap from up here. When I disabled the spring system on the 84RT I cut the pin that caused the plate to make the stand retract and the plate now just slides over the stub. I wonder are they interchangeable if the retraction system is not being used...?


__________________________________________________
1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011171 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 37,190 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 42,640 miles.

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

9Back to top Go down   side stands Empty Re: side stands Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:21 pm

Stan

Stan
Life time member
Life time member
I will pull off the boomerang on the 83 and fit it to the 87 to see if all is well. I have technology...I have a drill and an angle grinder...what else does one need?...oh and I have a friend down the road with plenty of metal off cuts. This plan will be put into action next week.....thanks.


__________________________________________________
1983 K100 basic vin 0003960 colour red  GONE
1987 K100RT vin 0094685 colour, orange peel, sorry, pearl..GONE
F800R black
    

10Back to top Go down   side stands Empty Re: side stands Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:17 pm

Inge K.

Inge K.
VIP
VIP
ainsjac wrote:...what else does one need?...

A good memory........needed before entering the first left hand turn on every trip.


__________________________________________________
Inge K.
K100RS -86. (first owner), K1100LTSE -94.
    

11Back to top Go down   side stands Empty Re: side stands Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:57 pm

Stan

Stan
Life time member
Life time member
Inge...must admit that my memory was not good a few times..sparked some interest in my riding


__________________________________________________
1983 K100 basic vin 0003960 colour red  GONE
1987 K100RT vin 0094685 colour, orange peel, sorry, pearl..GONE
F800R black
    

12Back to top Go down   side stands Empty Re: side stands Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:55 am

charlie99

charlie99
VIP
VIP
ainsjac wrote:Could someone out there help me with information for my 87 RT. The side stand has 2 springs attached to it on a pivot point each. However the springs are then attached together onto one pivot on the bike. I looked at my 83 basic and the stand is different but still has two pivot points, but connects to triangular plate...2 holes for the 2 springs and the third hooks onto the bike.
All this came about as there a fair deal of play in the stand, so I had a new bush made where the stands bolts onto the bike.Should there be a similar set for the 87 bike that exists on the 83?

stan I found that the bush is sometimes too thick to keep a tight tolerance of lateral movement of the side stand ..play when the through bolt tightens the whole assembly .

I took about 1/2  a mm off the bush height ...which let the jaws of the sidestand sit closer to the subframe of the sidestand mount point  and greatly reducing the play .


hope that helps a little

just what I did that made a difference


__________________________________________________
cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%Oside stands Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

13Back to top Go down   side stands Empty Re: side stands Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:24 am

Stan

Stan
Life time member
Life time member
Thanks Charlie. I just made a boomerang using the 83s one as a template. All good untill I found the springs that had been used were now too long...angle grinder out...shorter springs. I will check it all out next week and may use your solution.


__________________________________________________
1983 K100 basic vin 0003960 colour red  GONE
1987 K100RT vin 0094685 colour, orange peel, sorry, pearl..GONE
F800R black
    

14Back to top Go down   side stands Empty Re: side stands Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:54 am

charlie99

charlie99
VIP
VIP
lol hate to say it ....but you know what they call a boomerang ..that doesn't come back

.
.
.
..
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
a stick !!!



lets hope the springs do the job mate


__________________________________________________
cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%Oside stands Au-log10

'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
    

15Back to top Go down   side stands Empty Re: side stands Thu Feb 19, 2015 8:01 am

WoodyAUK75

WoodyAUK75
Silver member
Silver member
According to Stephen Fry and the QI elves, a boomerang that doesn't come back( remember, the ones for scaring birds come back, the hunting ones actually hit things so don't) is called a Kylie.

    

16Back to top Go down   side stands Empty Re: side stands Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:44 pm

Stan

Stan
Life time member
Life time member
Is that a Kylie Minoge?


__________________________________________________
1983 K100 basic vin 0003960 colour red  GONE
1987 K100RT vin 0094685 colour, orange peel, sorry, pearl..GONE
F800R black
    

17Back to top Go down   side stands Empty Re: side stands Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:06 am

blaKey

avatar
Life time member
Life time member
Ainsjac, is this what you're talking about?

side stands Dscn0011


__________________________________________________
Neil
K100RS 1986 RED!

Dress for the ride and the potential slide.
    

18Back to top Go down   side stands Empty Re: side stands Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:15 am

Stan

Stan
Life time member
Life time member
That is it BlaKey.....I have made exactly like that...well it looks like that and have modified the springs to suit. Amazing what you find is missing because you assume that because your bike doesnt have it...it is not needed.


__________________________________________________
1983 K100 basic vin 0003960 colour red  GONE
1987 K100RT vin 0094685 colour, orange peel, sorry, pearl..GONE
F800R black
    

19Back to top Go down   side stands Empty Re: side stands Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:19 am

blaKey

avatar
Life time member
Life time member
It's yours if you want it.


__________________________________________________
Neil
K100RS 1986 RED!

Dress for the ride and the potential slide.
    

20Back to top Go down   side stands Empty Re: side stands Fri Feb 20, 2015 2:27 am

Stan

Stan
Life time member
Life time member
Thanks for offer. I will see if my version sticks together for a few weeks...if it doesnt I will surely get back to you...thanks again.


__________________________________________________
1983 K100 basic vin 0003960 colour red  GONE
1987 K100RT vin 0094685 colour, orange peel, sorry, pearl..GONE
F800R black
    

View previous topic View next topic Back to top  Message [Page 1 of 1]

Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum