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Two Wheels Better

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It occurs to me that there are many forum members who own a later model BMW with the round, multi-pin connector under the seat which is used for diagnosing, scanning and clearing of fault codes, and are subject to the local dealership's prices for scanning codes. Most of us have heard of the GS911 tool. It has its nice features and functions, but unless you've paid the high price for the 'upgraded' or professional version it is somewhat limited to a few VINs.

I have needed to be able to scan my bikes for fault codes, re-set service lights, and making coding changes on my various newer Beemers. I did some research, found the usual culprits like GS911 and the German-made Duonix. These are not cheap, and I am.

This is what I use and it works a charm.
App & Hardware for Scanning Codes on Later Model Beemers Blueto10
Search eBay or other online sources for a typical ELM327 Bluetooth module (OBDLinkLX is the brand/model required with the MotoScan app) of the kind that reads automobile codes. Go to eBay and look for a seller called OBD Innovations. OBD Innovations sell multiple adaptor cords and the one you'll need is for the round 16 pin BMW connector (Motronic 2.4 and later) to typical automotive OBD2 reader. Download the MotoScan app on Play Store for Android or whatever method your iPhone uses. 

Below is a link to MotoScan. I paid 50 for the 'professional' level of service which allows me to read and clear codes, set service lights and mileage intervals, change the date on the instrument panel, activate or delete tyre pressure monitors, change settings for the BMW alarm system, whether you want your dash showing metric or imperial data, and even things like setting the actuators for the throttle bodies as well as reading live data from the ECU, ABS unit, instrument cluster & etc.

MotoScan website

Duonix website

All up I have less than US$100 invested in these three pieces, far less than the basic US$399 to start GS911 or €299 Duonix readers.
Note that from 2017 on, BMW motorcycles no longer need the round pin adaptor because they're now utilising a simple plug-in automobile OBD2 module directly into the wiring loom. Ping me if you have questions.

MotoScan app €50
OBD Innovations cord US$12
OBDLinkLX Bluetooth module US$39



Last edited by Two Wheels Better on Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:01 pm; edited 1 time in total


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ReneZ

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Hi, tried to PM you, but forum gives no option.

Any info on how to obtain in Oz? Had a look on fleabay, but the module is about AUS 100?

Thanks, Rene


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ReneZ wrote:Hi, tried to PM you, but forum gives no option.
If you're logged in, use the personal message—PM—icon at the bottom of TWB's post.


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Rick G

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Are you sure it's EML27 The car one is EML327.


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Two Wheels Better

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RicK G wrote:Are you sure it's EML27 The car one is EML327.
Yes, I am quite sure it's ELM327, and with the round BMW connector to typical auto OBDII connector cable you can get it done. Have a squiz at the picture above.



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RT

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Hiya TWB
any idea if these things work on R models as well pls?
Been enjoying your trip reports mate
RT


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Two Wheels Better

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RT wrote:Hiya TWB
any idea if these things work on R models as well pls?
Been enjoying your trip reports mate
RT

As long as the bike has the standard round, multi-pin connector under the seat, circa mid '90s on, then, yep, they work.

Glad you enjoy the reports. It's been one helluva ride!


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Two Wheels Better

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When I return to Amerikaland next week I'll post a more thorough explanation of the details of the components needed for those interested in saving heaps of dosh by clearing codes, resetting service lights & etc, on later model Beemers, (round plug fitted) yourveryownbadself.


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AL-58

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If I read this correctly; If I already have a physical plug in OBDII reader, I would only need the adapter cable.  The Bluetooth thing and the app would not be required.

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AL-58 wrote:If I read this correctly; If I already have a physical plug in OBDII reader, I would only need the adapter cable.  The Bluetooth thing and the app would not be required.

Al
Yes, that's right. MotoScan is the app I use and am specifically referring to here, what ever your OBDII reader does is another story. The cable adaptor which allows connection between BMW motos and a specific ELM327 Bluetooth module (or your reader) are required for MotoScan's use.

The Duonix reader just needs the adaptor cable.

Initially, I did call the Bluetooth module an ELM27 when in fact it's an ELM327 as Rick sorta noticed, but it's definitely not an EML...

Posts corrected for clarity.
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App & Hardware for Scanning Codes on Later Model Beemers Motosc10
This adaptor is what is needed to connect the requisite Bluetooth module to the BMW round connector on yer bike so you can scan and clear codes from the mid-'90s through 2016 or '17. BMW went to the now-common automotive OBDII 'rectangular' plug type in later years, making the adaptor redundant. The OBDII Bluetooth module in the background is the version that works best (all info is readable) as recommended by the designer of the app, www.wgsoft.de in Germany. I tried my Carista automotive Bluetooth module initially with the MotoScan app and found I could not 'open' certain areas of the app and was not able to re-set some service codes on friend's later model bikes. A quick email to the developer got me sorted and I found this OBDLinkLX Bluetooth module on eBay USA for under $40 shipped. It allows full access now.
App & Hardware for Scanning Codes on Later Model Beemers Motosc11
This is the MotoScan app I use, and as you can see from the listings it works on all newer Beemers and the odd Husky from when BMW owned that marque. If you possess another type of code scanner then just be sure it works with BMW motorbikes as most of them are for use with cars/light trucks and your bike might not be 'listed' for use in their software.

OBD Innovations eBay USA link
I purchased mine on eBay USA from OBD Innovations components. There are Chinese versions of this adaptor selling for under US$10 on eBay as well. Perhaps they all come from there...

Here is what their eBay description says about the product: 
"10 Pin to 16 Pin OBDII Female diagnostic adaptor cable for BMW Motorcycles. This adaptor cable is designed to be used with BMW motorcycles with the 10 pin diagnostic port. 
This adaptor can also be used to connect to a ELM327 OBDII Scanner to read engine data and codes using free Android Apps and PC Software. Advanced features are available with paid Android Apps such as MotoScan."


The key take-away in the description above is that with most free apps you might be able to scan and read codes but not clear them or re-set service indicators. MotoScan allows the full gamut, depending upon what you spring for in their offerings. As I use this app almost on a weekly basis I went for the 'professional' level.


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prince

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I bought my GS911 3 1/2 years ago which is long before the Motoscan came out.

The gS911 home version allows 10 VIN's to be used. This is fine for me. I am on my second VIN for the GS911. It will outlast me.

I really like the GS911. It really paid for itself last year when a coil went on my old K1600. It told me which coil was bad allowing me to fix it myself.


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Yes, I am in agreement that the GS911 has been the go-to for many years, and for a lot of riders it is the ultimate. One shouldn't look too far past it for what it does in return. I have used it at the workshops I've been employed by for many years, as well as the factory Moss system and others. 

My point is simply to show a less expensive option that does just what the GS911 and the Duonix do, for far less dosh. Currently, an authorised basic GS911 costs about US$399 up to US$749, the Duonix is a bit better at 299 and beyond. Caution should be used when searching for the GS911 as there is an Asian-produced but original-looking, knock-off GS911 that does not function properly, out there on the market. 

I reckon I have spent a bit over US$100 on all three components, and there's no limit to how many VINs I can scan, clear and make adjustments with. The MotoScan app will synchronise the throttle bodies, add or delete options such as tyre pressure monitors, factory alarm system, or adding auxiliary lights, diagnose faulty components, change dashboard functions, & etc., through the CAN-Bus on my K1300GT and K1200R. All things that the dealer will happily transfer hard-earned money from your pocket to his cash register for a princely sum. Doing it yourself is also a heap of fun, and that's none too shabby for the price.


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Two Wheels Better

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In the interest of adding further useful info to this thread, there IS a flat 3-pin scanner available, as used on K100-16V and most K1100 models, as well as older R850 and most R1100 Oilheads (but not R1100S which is Motoronic 2.4 and uses the later round connector). Essentially, it works on Motronic 2.1 and 2.2 variants. Here is an example of it:

Hexcode scanner


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Beamer down under

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Two Wheels Better wrote:App & Hardware for Scanning Codes on Later Model Beemers Motosc10
This adaptor is what is needed to connect the requisite Bluetooth module to the BMW round connector on yer bike so you can scan and clear codes from the mid-'90s through 2016 or '17. BMW went to the now-common automotive OBDII 'rectangular' plug type in later years, making the adaptor redundant. The OBDII Bluetooth module in the background is the version that works best (all info is readable) as recommended by the designer of the app, www.wgsoft.de in Germany. I tried my Carista automotive Bluetooth module initially with the MotoScan app and found I could not 'open' certain areas of the app and was not able to re-set some service codes on friend's later model bikes. A quick email to the developer got me sorted and I found this OBDLinkLX Bluetooth module on eBay USA for under $40 shipped. It allows full access now.
App & Hardware for Scanning Codes on Later Model Beemers Motosc11
This is the MotoScan app I use, and as you can see from the listings it works on all newer Beemers and the odd Husky from when BMW owned that marque. If you possess another type of code scanner then just be sure it works with BMW motorbikes as most of them are for use with cars/light trucks and your bike might not be 'listed' for use in their software.

OBD Innovations eBay USA link
I purchased mine on eBay USA from OBD Innovations components. There are Chinese versions of this adaptor selling for under US$10 on eBay as well. Perhaps they all come from there...

Here is what their eBay description says about the product: 
"10 Pin to 16 Pin OBDII Female diagnostic adaptor cable for BMW Motorcycles. This adaptor cable is designed to be used with BMW motorcycles with the 10 pin diagnostic port. 
This adaptor can also be used to connect to a ELM327 OBDII Scanner to read engine data and codes using free Android Apps and PC Software. Advanced features are available with paid Android Apps such as MotoScan."


The key take-away in the description above is that with most free apps you might be able to scan and read codes but not clear them or re-set service indicators. MotoScan allows the full gamut, depending upon what you spring for in their offerings. As I use this app almost on a weekly basis I went for the 'professional' level.

This is a awesome tool i have purchased the exact same one and it works great Thank you 2 wheels better

    

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I have an Android device and a 802.11 wireless OBDII module that I have been using on my GMC pickup with an app called Autoscan. No problems with that set up reading and resetting so, I know both work.

I bought the converter cable off Amazon and downloaded the free Motoscan to my droid.  I see that app will let you switch from Bluetooth to wifi so, I should be good to go but, haven't actually tried it yet.

My concerns:

What kind of real time data can I get from the Ultimate version?  The website doesn't go into detail.  I specifically would like to see any kind of fuel mixture, air temperature, water temperature, etc.  (she's kind of a gas hog and I would like to improve that)

Is there any chance of bricking the Motronic on my 94 K1100RS?  That would take all the fun out of this.  affraid


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Point-Seven-five

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Your bike's operating system predates the OBDII by about 10 years.  It's not compatible with your stuff and won't give you any information.


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For the 1999 K1200lt, I wrote an application (Excel) to load the real time GS-911 data and translate it to graphs. This way, you can see how every components are reacting with each others

App & Hardware for Scanning Codes on Later Model Beemers Gs-91110


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That's beaut, CF, there's a little bit of mad scientists in almost all of us. And for those who don't possess it, there's entertainment and learning.
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Point-Seven-five wrote:Your bike's operating system predates the OBDII by about 10 years.  It's not compatible with your stuff and won't give you any information.
Well, phoo. I knew the blue one was for the ABS. Guess I will have to hold on to the adapter for my next BMW. 😁 Thanks!


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